by cambod » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:11 pm
OrangeDragon wrote:i suppose here it becomes a question of justice. which is greater... punishment of those who are guilty of wrongdoing, or rewarding of those who have suffered.
for us, from lands of "hang 'em high", we jump to the line of PUNISH THEM! but what does that REALLY get the families? emotional satisfaction that someone else is now suffering as well... and that's it. culturally i can see them not viewing more suffering as a solution to suffering. in this case it was a stupid kid who did it... not like she was some hardened serial crasher out for another set of victims.
it's not hard for to imagine them thinking that ruining a teenage kids life (which is probably already pretty screwed because of the emotional trauma of what she did) further isn't bringing their kids back of making their lives any better, so instead opting for something that will. i mean if they're dirt poor peasants $10,000 is a pretty fat change to their lives... and could likely offset some of their suffering over their lost children by removing much of their otherwise day to day suffering.
LoL, that would all make sense EXCEPT for the fact they already said what they said! ! Don't you get that? They have made it more than clear that "their" definition of justice is the same as "our" definition of justice.
They said, "You can't but my kids' lives!"
They didn't say, "I hope we get fairly compensated!"
Also, if I thought for one second that those Cambodian families were using any sort of sound logic like you described I'd be a lot more sympathetic, but I believe the truth to be they are just selfish/spineless families that are used to being enslaved by the rich, and are making conscience decisions to allow them to continue to be bought by the rich.
but what does that REALLY get the families? emotional satisfaction that someone else is now suffering as well... and that's it.
Again, the fact that this is your question is the fact that your own sense of justice is probably a little wack. "What does it get the families?" Who said justice is about the family receiving something? That also seems a reflection on you that you would have this question.
The "justice" part of this is, yes, punishing, the guilty and preventing it from happening again, most especially by the same individual.
I can also agree that compensation to the victim, when appropriate, is part of it, but it should NEVER EVER be all of it.
[quote="OrangeDragon"]i suppose here it becomes a question of justice. which is greater... punishment of those who are guilty of wrongdoing, or rewarding of those who have suffered.
for us, from lands of "hang 'em high", we jump to the line of PUNISH THEM! but what does that REALLY get the families? emotional satisfaction that someone else is now suffering as well... and that's it. culturally i can see them not viewing more suffering as a solution to suffering. in this case it was a stupid kid who did it... not like she was some hardened serial crasher out for another set of victims.
it's not hard for to imagine them thinking that ruining a teenage kids life (which is probably already pretty screwed because of the emotional trauma of what she did) further isn't bringing their kids back of making their lives any better, so instead opting for something that will. i mean if they're dirt poor peasants $10,000 is a pretty fat change to their lives... and could likely offset some of their suffering over their lost children by removing much of their otherwise day to day suffering.[/quote]
LoL, that would all make sense EXCEPT for the fact they already said what they said! ! Don't you get that? They have made it more than clear that "their" definition of justice is the same as "our" definition of justice.
They said, "You can't but my kids' lives!"
They didn't say, "I hope we get fairly compensated!"
Also, if I thought for one second that those Cambodian families were using any sort of sound logic like you described I'd be a lot more sympathetic, but I believe the truth to be they are just selfish/spineless families that are used to being enslaved by the rich, and are making conscience decisions to allow them to continue to be bought by the rich.
[quote]but what does that REALLY get the families? emotional satisfaction that someone else is now suffering as well... and that's it. [/quote]
Again, the fact that this is your question is the fact that your own sense of justice is probably a little wack. "What does it get the families?" Who said justice is about the family receiving something? That also seems a reflection on you that you would have this question.
The "justice" part of this is, yes, punishing, the guilty and preventing it from happening again, most especially by the same individual.
I can also agree that compensation to the victim, when appropriate, is part of it, but it should NEVER EVER be all of it.