by Aussie Khmer » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:57 pm
Hot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote:There are plenty of threads and comments about ACE and nothing much has changed apart from worsening conditions. Also, there will be less classes for native speakers in the future as local teachers will be teaching more and more levels. Yes, they hire noobs fresh of the CELTA because experienced, qualified teachers don't want to be treated like excrement!
For more job security try and get in at one of the lower tier "International Schools." I know quite a few people who left ACE and are MUCH happier with the conditions and pay.
Have you thought about doing a PGCE in Education? If you are only going to teach in KoW then I don't think the Celta is a good investment but I also wouldn't waste my money on an online cert.
You could also try teaching English online first. You may find ESL teaching isn't as fun, glamorous and exciting as you imagine it to be
Hmmm, much to consider! I'll contact ACE to ask about salary expectations if I did their CELTA, but I'm pretty certain I wouldn't be getting that sort of info out of them hahaha.
As a newbie I've been checking out lots of forums/threads for more experienced opinions (can turn you off the whole idea hearing from old hands lol), FB pages and youtube videos from 6-12months newbies documenting their experience in the KoW who make it sound pretty great (probably because they are too busy learning how to actually teach to have gotten jaded yet).
I'm seeing complaints about just about every school in Cambodia based on: shit management, crappy wages, experience not recognized (in pay rates), not being able to get a job with 10 years experience because unless you're a 20yo female backpacker with no experience or certification whatsoever schools don't want to know, not getting paid, the list is endless. So yeah, I don't think I'm under the illusion that ESL in Cambodia especially is a glamorous profession anymore hahahahaha. (According to people with a Bachelors in Education ESL is not even a REAL profession anyway and instructors are not REALLY teachers!)
I have thought about online teaching but not sure if no certification and no experience is a good way to start down that road.
I guess I'll just have to come and start and see if I like teaching ESL at all, and at least hopefully be able to live in Cambodia while having some sort of income coming in, even if it's only $10/hr. (I did see people saying ACE pay 22-25/hr but will ask them if that's available for a newbie or if it's just the $10/hr everywhere else pays).
The main thing is I get to spend some time with my girl and see if I like the country as well.
Thanks for your input mate. All the advice is helping.
Cheers... Cole
[quote="Hot_Pink_Urinal_Mint"]There are plenty of threads and comments about ACE and nothing much has changed apart from worsening conditions. Also, there will be less classes for native speakers in the future as local teachers will be teaching more and more levels. Yes, they hire noobs fresh of the CELTA because experienced, qualified teachers don't want to be treated like excrement!
For more job security try and get in at one of the lower tier "International Schools." I know quite a few people who left ACE and are MUCH happier with the conditions and pay.
Have you thought about doing a PGCE in Education? If you are only going to teach in KoW then I don't think the Celta is a good investment but I also wouldn't waste my money on an online cert.
You could also try teaching English online first. You may find ESL teaching isn't as fun, glamorous and exciting as you imagine it to be :smile:[/quote]
Hmmm, much to consider! I'll contact ACE to ask about salary expectations if I did their CELTA, but I'm pretty certain I wouldn't be getting that sort of info out of them hahaha.
As a newbie I've been checking out lots of forums/threads for more experienced opinions (can turn you off the whole idea hearing from old hands lol), FB pages and youtube videos from 6-12months newbies documenting their experience in the KoW who make it sound pretty great (probably because they are too busy learning how to actually teach to have gotten jaded yet).
I'm seeing complaints about just about every school in Cambodia based on: shit management, crappy wages, experience not recognized (in pay rates), not being able to get a job with 10 years experience because unless you're a 20yo female backpacker with no experience or certification whatsoever schools don't want to know, not getting paid, the list is endless. So yeah, I don't think I'm under the illusion that ESL in Cambodia especially is a glamorous profession anymore hahahahaha. (According to people with a Bachelors in Education ESL is not even a REAL profession anyway and instructors are not REALLY teachers!)
I have thought about online teaching but not sure if no certification and no experience is a good way to start down that road.
I guess I'll just have to come and start and see if I like teaching ESL at all, and at least hopefully be able to live in Cambodia while having some sort of income coming in, even if it's only $10/hr. (I did see people saying ACE pay 22-25/hr but will ask them if that's available for a newbie or if it's just the $10/hr everywhere else pays).
The main thing is I get to spend some time with my girl and see if I like the country as well.
Thanks for your input mate. All the advice is helping.
Cheers... Cole