Phnom Penh street parking charges?

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Phnom Penh street parking charges?

Postby Doctor Seuss » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:42 pm

I had a very weird experience today. I was going to the money changer I normally visit on monivong Blvd. I pulled my car into the empty footpath in front of his shop and went inside for 3 or 4 minutes.

When I came out I found there was a colourful ticket the size of 2 business cards on my windshield. It had all kinds of pictures and writing on it... printed on both sides. Before I could take it off the windshield, this young boy came up to me and took it off the window and said to me in ENglish "You have to give me 1,000riel". I instantly assumed this was some kind of scam and said no to him, got in my car and drove away.

As I got in my car, he made a big deal of reading my number plate and writing it down on the card he had taken from my windshield.. he did this in a manner where he wanted me to know he was recording my number plate. Im not particularly worried about this, because if the Khmers had any ability or inclination to track down people according to their vehicle registrations, then traffic police would be doing so.

Still... I am somewhat curious about this. As I reversed out, I noticed the young boy was wearing a green uniform and the vest he was wearing had a large letter "P" stitched to it. It didnt seem like something an opportunistic kid would be wearing whilst trying to scam money. As I drove further up Monivong, I saw another young boy standing on the pavement outside some commercial shops wearing the same uniform. I noticed he was wearing some kind of officially stamped name tag with logo on a piece of string around his neck. As I drove along Monivong I saw numerous other young boys also wearing the same uninform with ID badges on a piece of string around their neck. Oddly, the uniform with the letter P also had the name of a company that was obviously sponsoring the uniform.. it looked like a Korean name.

Is this some kind of new policy from the municipal of Phnom Penh to extract parking charges from people trying to park outside of businesses on Monivong? Have they outsourced it to some private company?

Has anyone else experience this?
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Re: Phnom Penh street parking charges?

Postby mannacambodia » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:08 pm

Doctor Seuss, you have new money changer now ? :spam:
I believe it is already a few years ago talk about this was going on, have not seen the boys yet, but for sure its possible.

A few years ago in a taxi from the airport -when the charge was nine dollars- the driver gave me a very official looking paper which said it was now twelve dollars fare from airport to downtown, I just smiled at him, little did he know he was going to get twenty, as I always pay twenty the day I arrive, only ones a year.

Doctor Seuss, you are such long time in this country, why you make so angry to these people for a silly thousand riels ? Just pay and smile. They are not all like your old money changers.

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Re: Phnom Penh street parking charges?

Postby Doctor Seuss » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:42 pm

Who said I was angry? I was quite calm when ignoring him.

I smiled and said no and got in my car and drove away. If he wanted me to pay for the ticket, he should have given me the ticket when I got out of my car, like everyone else in Cambodia does - not put it on my car when I return so I have no choice whether to accept the 'charge' or not.

Your comment above is really, really fucking stupid. Are you saying that anytime someone in Cambodia asks you for money you should just hand it over without question, because its just a couple of thousand riel?

I had a druggie come up and ask me for a dollar yesterday.. should I just smile and pay the money because I have been in Cambodia for so many years? What a dickhead thing to suggest to someone.
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Re: Phnom Penh street parking charges?

Postby mannacambodia » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:01 pm

Waaauaaw, welcome to the new board. Really nothing has changed has it.
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Re: Phnom Penh street parking charges?

Postby rob77 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:50 pm

I think they might be legit.

There was an article in one of the local rags about some test scheme for parking fees on main boulevards like kampuchea krom and few others.
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Re: Phnom Penh street parking charges?

Postby hanky » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:56 pm

Still... I am somewhat curious about this.


Its actually a new parking scheme which could help with the chronic congestion around the city. The pilot areas are around the central parts of Kampuchea Krom and Monivong. You can actually park, but you have to pay a paltry amount, and this only allows a limited parking time. There are clear signs about this, and notices about where you can buy a ticket from a machine. The OPs reaction to the scheme doesn't bode well for its future success unfortunately.
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Re: Phnom Penh street parking charges?

Postby ken svay » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:02 am

This has been in the air for quite sometime.
It is legit-or as legit as one gets in cambodia.
Where does the money go?
The rich will never pay of course.
I saw a black lexie cruise straight through the toll booths on the toll road the other day.
Why should self important people pay 1100 riel to drive on the toll road?
It seems so unjust to slow them down when they are aways in a hurry going nowhere.
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Re: Phnom Penh street parking charges?

Postby Sok Poupe » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:57 am

ken svay wrote:It seems so unjust to slow them down when they are aways in a hurry going nowhere.


Ignorant. Going to a karaokeshop to get plastered and abuse a poor countrygirl -with the option of shooting her in the leg- is not going nowhere!
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Re: Phnom Penh street parking charges?

Postby mango45 » Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:52 am

I think it is a good idea to charge for parking on the side-walk , side-walks are meant for pedestrians to keep them safe from careless drivers and there should be NO parking , I have to risk my safety when I am forced to walk amongst the traffic to go almost anywhere . The fine , of course , is rediculously cheap for a driver of a car , they should also fine vendors and shop owners who block free access to a safe place to walk , sweep the over prolific masses of motodops who RESIDE on sidewalks into the huge garbage collection bins .

Better than that , a license should be instigated for motodop and tuk-tuks , lowering their numbers and ensuring that they are licensed and have some insurance , during holiday periods when thousands of these miscreants migrate to the village , Phnom Penh becomes a more pleasany city to navigate .

More essential than all of this , multi story parking would give many no excuse to block streets just because they park as though they have a god given right to do so in the most inconvenient spots for other road users .

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Re: Phnom Penh street parking charges?

Postby dv8inpp » Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:20 pm

A while ago, when they introduced a new bunch of security guards at the old market, the security guards were charging for parking. They extended it to 104 street and tried to charge me for people to park outside my bar, regardless if they were inside my premises or not. Told them to provide documentation saying they had the right to do that and until I had it checked they could bugger off. Now the amount was only 200 riel/day/moto. Not a lot but if you multiply that by the numbers of bikes parked around the area it could return a good amount every month.

My girlfriend wanted to know why when other people pay it why wouldn't I. Simple, I told her, it's probably a scam and until they show the paperwork they can bugger off. They have since stopped asking for money.
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Re: Phnom Penh street parking charges?

Postby Doctor Seuss » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:11 pm

hanky wrote:
Still... I am somewhat curious about this.


Its actually a new parking scheme which could help with the chronic congestion around the city. The pilot areas are around the central parts of Kampuchea Krom and Monivong. You can actually park, but you have to pay a paltry amount, and this only allows a limited parking time. There are clear signs about this, and notices about where you can buy a ticket from a machine. The OPs reaction to the scheme doesn't bode well for its future success unfortunately.


Thanks Rob and Hanky (see MannaCambodia... THAT's how to reply to a post - with information, not dribble).

Im glad it is a pilot scheme. I can see something like this would take a few years for people to change their habits about. Jeez... how long did it take the police to start making people put mirrors on the bikes (they still dont actually use them), and that was the police... not a young boy in a shirt with a P embroided on it (poorly - looks like the Jewish yellow star).

Admittedly, I would have responded to the situation completely differently if it had been handled correctly. Any place where you park your car in town you are given a ticket and then they put a ticket on your windsheld. The ticket also has the price on it. This is normal. It also gives you a chance to agree or not agree to the ticketing price. I was not given anything and returned to my car to find the boy taking a colooured card off my windshield that I never even saw put on there in the first place... then he demanded 1,000riel from me. It wreaked of a scam.

Mango45 wrote:I think it is a good idea to charge for parking on the side-walk , side-walks are meant for pedestrians to keep them safe from careless drivers and there should be NO parking , I have to risk my safety when I am forced to walk amongst the traffic to go almost anywhere . The fine , of course , is rediculously cheap for a driver of a car , they should also fine vendors and shop owners who block free access to a safe place to walk , sweep the over prolific masses of motodops who RESIDE on sidewalks into the huge garbage collection bins .


I agree it would be nice to have the sidewalks free. In the west putting money into a parking meter is totally accepted in the inner city, and this isn't so different (except parking meters are policed). I cant see cleaaring the sidewalks of traffic as practically possibly until large scale parking garages start getting built anyway.

Mango45 wrote:Better than that , a license should be instigated for motodop and tuk-tuks , lowering their numbers and ensuring that they are licensed and have some insurance , during holiday periods when thousands of these miscreants migrate to the village , Phnom Penh becomes a more pleasany city to navigate


I think calling them miscreants is a bit rough. Being a motodup isnt a lifestyle choice for people. They do it because they are poor and have no money to eat. I've got both friends and relatives who, in the past, have had to borrow a friends motorbike and work everyday as a motodup just to get enough money to eat. Its not an easy life and normally they make just enough to give their family basic food and pay for petrol. Other times they dont even make enough to buy food for their family, and have to borrow the money until the next day when they can earn more. To take away this most basic opportunity for a poor, unskilled, and uneducated person to earn money through such excessive regulation would be unfair... especially when you know the human face of these people you are talking about.

Maybe the government could start making the regulatory changes you are suggesting at the same time as when they start providing the poor with a national social services and health program?
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Re: Phnom Penh street parking charges?

Postby LaudJohn » Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:00 pm

Doctor Seuss wrote:I had a very weird experience today. ....

this young boy came up to me and took it off

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As I reversed out, I noticed the young boy

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I saw another young boy standing on the pavement

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I saw numerous other young boys also


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Has anyone else experience this?


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Postby Playboy » Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:58 pm

Doctor Seuss wrote:Thanks Rob and Hanky (see MannaCambodia... THAT's how to reply to a post - with information, not dribble).

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Re: Phnom Penh street parking charges?

Postby mango45 » Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:44 pm

I could not think of a decent word to use at the time of writing , I am fully aware of their situation in regard to making a few sheckles to survive , it was as much concerning how and where they park which often baffles me , they clutter up entrances to stores , block sidewalks without a thought for any one except themselves . It has improved since food vendors and a few others have employed young men to park machines more 'Prettily' to take up far less space in the street as they have taken up the whole of the walking space . This will be a job in process for a long time to come .
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Re: Phnom Penh street parking charges?

Postby vladimir » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:49 pm

'Doctor Seuss, you are such long time in this country, why you make so angry to these people for a silly thousand riels ? Just pay and smile.'

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