Exactly, yet the Daily spin it out into a feature article. The financials are interesting though as they are certainly going through a serious chunk of change in salaries.Felgerkarb wrote:In the end it's he said she said type thing chalked up to jealousy over the Siem Reap Salon, etc.
Somaly Mam expose in CD?
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This looks like quite good reporting but like others have said, the problem is it comes from the CD who have no idea how to distribute the story to better news outlets which will make something of it. BK and his lick-spittle editors will make sure (through their own incompetence) that this story never reaches those it should.
I met Somaly once. I liked her.
This is a sad story in many ways, but one that must be told. The end justifies the means is usually the beginning of the end for most "help people organizations."
Shasta told K440 members a few years ago about the deceit and sham of Somaly's good intentions. Most of my western friends refused to acknowledge these serious accusations at the time and I believe most will ignore the facts presented here. Both the political right and left have common agreement with her. It is not the truth, it is the mission that counts with the majority.
However, i think Somaly will come out of this smelling like a rose. Do you throw out the baby with the water? There have been many children that have been helped by her organizations however it does not in anyway make her less guilty in the abuse of truth.
She now has the qualifications to run for public office.
This is a sad story in many ways, but one that must be told. The end justifies the means is usually the beginning of the end for most "help people organizations."
Shasta told K440 members a few years ago about the deceit and sham of Somaly's good intentions. Most of my western friends refused to acknowledge these serious accusations at the time and I believe most will ignore the facts presented here. Both the political right and left have common agreement with her. It is not the truth, it is the mission that counts with the majority.
However, i think Somaly will come out of this smelling like a rose. Do you throw out the baby with the water? There have been many children that have been helped by her organizations however it does not in anyway make her less guilty in the abuse of truth.
She now has the qualifications to run for public office.
If I knew for certain that a person was coming to my house with the intent of doing me good, I would run for my life HDT
Vox Clamantis wrote:This looks like quite good reporting but like others have said,
the problem is it comes from the CD who have no idea how to distribute the story to better news outlets which will make something of it.
BK and his lick-spittle editors will make sure (through their own incompetence) that this story never reaches those it should.
Yes, they should take lessons from the British tabloids and have headlines like '' These girls were sold to a brothel on the planet mars'' or '' The girls in my care were raped by aliens. "
We have known for ages that somaly mam was a greedy fraudster but why has the daily tipped the bucket on her yet ran the puff piece on morrish and SISHA?
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The Daily is effectively an industry specific newspaper that focuses on stories that are relevant to those involved in development aid. That's where it's come from and that's where it gets the majority of its ad revenue.
I think they will only throw an NGO under the bus if the story is becoming impossible to ignore and they are 100% sure of themselves. If the story is about the private sector or locals with links to the government, just a few 'opinions' from curtain NGO's and 'independent political analysts' is enough.
It will be interesting to see if they follow up recent revelations about MLF and SISHA with a story asking whether Cambodia does need an NGO law? At the moment there are no financial checks or balances for NGO's that are only registered here, those two only got outed in part because they have legal presences in the U.S that certainly does.
I think they will only throw an NGO under the bus if the story is becoming impossible to ignore and they are 100% sure of themselves. If the story is about the private sector or locals with links to the government, just a few 'opinions' from curtain NGO's and 'independent political analysts' is enough.
It will be interesting to see if they follow up recent revelations about MLF and SISHA with a story asking whether Cambodia does need an NGO law? At the moment there are no financial checks or balances for NGO's that are only registered here, those two only got outed in part because they have legal presences in the U.S that certainly does.
I am no fan of Somaly Mam, I think she is a fraud. But on the expenditure side from the information on this thread it would look very good compared to some of the more world renowned charity organizations that only spend 2-5% of earnings on the actual intended recipient.
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I understand that the findings are with SISHA and have been for some time. In fact, I'm told they were due to be released a couple of weeks ago but weren't.ricecakes wrote:When will the SISHA audit results get released ?
Incidentally, there have been a few changes to SISHA's 'expert advisory group'. Take a look........
http://www.sisha.org/about-us/who-we-ar ... ory-group/
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Maybe they've decided to rely on Khmer440 for all the advice they need.keeping_it_riel wrote:Incidentally, there have been a few changes to SISHA's 'expert advisory group'. Take a look........
http://www.sisha.org/about-us/who-we-ar ... ory-group/
forget it guys.
these crooks are untouchable, Somaly Mam, APLE, Childcare, Hagar, and the whole underworld of the mom&pop NGOs.
nothing will ever come out of these articles, no matter if even her ex husband is basically admitting she's a fraudster.
besides, they don't need the opinion of the public anymore as nowadays they're happily funded by the big boys at UN, Unesco, and several other umbrella orgs with deep pockets and lots or rich suckers acting as private donors to gain face and later claim they're philanthropists.
Apesif doesn't even allow visitors in their "shelters" unless you're an investor and no photos are allowed, they also pre-check your criminal record and you need to book the visit at least 4 weeks in advance.
--> http://www.afesip.org/get-involved/visiting
and of course it's gonna be all staged if some sneaky journalist manages to get an invitation, no less than in the hundreds of fake orphanages around cambodia.
no exit strategy for all this, the only ones who could destroy Somaly Mam and the gang of NGOs are former employees with a chip on their shoulder but who's going to talk and who's going to publish it on the mainstream media ? these NGOs are big customers of the mainstream media, you can forget about it and same for publishing anti-NGO books, you'll get sued and they will laugh all the way to the bank.
and finally, the average joes don't give a shit and have zero attention span.
all they know is they've been hammered since the last 20 years about the human traffic issues in cambodia and if tomorrow Somaly Mam is busted they will just think she was a rotten apple, they will never EVER accept the whole system and the whole NGOs mafia across the third world is a scam because that would mean to accept that the UN, Unesco, ILO, are on the top of the Ponzi scheme and this is not gonna happen for people gullible enough to give money door to door or online to strangers who claim to save kids in a country they can't even spot on the map.
a fool and his money are soon parted.
these crooks are untouchable, Somaly Mam, APLE, Childcare, Hagar, and the whole underworld of the mom&pop NGOs.
nothing will ever come out of these articles, no matter if even her ex husband is basically admitting she's a fraudster.
besides, they don't need the opinion of the public anymore as nowadays they're happily funded by the big boys at UN, Unesco, and several other umbrella orgs with deep pockets and lots or rich suckers acting as private donors to gain face and later claim they're philanthropists.
Apesif doesn't even allow visitors in their "shelters" unless you're an investor and no photos are allowed, they also pre-check your criminal record and you need to book the visit at least 4 weeks in advance.
--> http://www.afesip.org/get-involved/visiting
and of course it's gonna be all staged if some sneaky journalist manages to get an invitation, no less than in the hundreds of fake orphanages around cambodia.
no exit strategy for all this, the only ones who could destroy Somaly Mam and the gang of NGOs are former employees with a chip on their shoulder but who's going to talk and who's going to publish it on the mainstream media ? these NGOs are big customers of the mainstream media, you can forget about it and same for publishing anti-NGO books, you'll get sued and they will laugh all the way to the bank.
and finally, the average joes don't give a shit and have zero attention span.
all they know is they've been hammered since the last 20 years about the human traffic issues in cambodia and if tomorrow Somaly Mam is busted they will just think she was a rotten apple, they will never EVER accept the whole system and the whole NGOs mafia across the third world is a scam because that would mean to accept that the UN, Unesco, ILO, are on the top of the Ponzi scheme and this is not gonna happen for people gullible enough to give money door to door or online to strangers who claim to save kids in a country they can't even spot on the map.
a fool and his money are soon parted.