Somaly Mam expose in CD?

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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby Bosco » Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:05 pm

Felgerkarb wrote:In the end it's he said she said type thing chalked up to jealousy over the Siem Reap Salon, etc.

Exactly, yet the Daily spin it out into a feature article. The financials are interesting though as they are certainly going through a serious chunk of change in salaries.
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby Vox Clamantis » Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:06 pm

This looks like quite good reporting but like others have said, the problem is it comes from the CD who have no idea how to distribute the story to better news outlets which will make something of it. BK and his lick-spittle editors will make sure (through their own incompetence) that this story never reaches those it should.
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby willie » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:23 pm

I met Somaly once. I liked her.

This is a sad story in many ways, but one that must be told. The end justifies the means is usually the beginning of the end for most "help people organizations."

Shasta told K440 members a few years ago about the deceit and sham of Somaly's good intentions. Most of my western friends refused to acknowledge these serious accusations at the time and I believe most will ignore the facts presented here. Both the political right and left have common agreement with her. It is not the truth, it is the mission that counts with the majority.

However, i think Somaly will come out of this smelling like a rose. Do you throw out the baby with the water? There have been many children that have been helped by her organizations however it does not in anyway make her less guilty in the abuse of truth.

She now has the qualifications to run for public office.
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby Duncan » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:34 pm

Vox Clamantis wrote:This looks like quite good reporting but like others have said,


the problem is it comes from the CD who have no idea how to distribute the story to better news outlets which will make something of it.


BK and his lick-spittle editors will make sure (through their own incompetence) that this story never reaches those it should.



Yes, they should take lessons from the British tabloids and have headlines like '' These girls were sold to a brothel on the planet mars'' or '' The girls in my care were raped by aliens. "
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby ken svay » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:16 pm

We have known for ages that somaly mam was a greedy fraudster but why has the daily tipped the bucket on her yet ran the puff piece on morrish and SISHA?
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby starkmonster » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:27 am

The Daily is effectively an industry specific newspaper that focuses on stories that are relevant to those involved in development aid. That's where it's come from and that's where it gets the majority of its ad revenue.

I think they will only throw an NGO under the bus if the story is becoming impossible to ignore and they are 100% sure of themselves. If the story is about the private sector or locals with links to the government, just a few 'opinions' from curtain NGO's and 'independent political analysts' is enough.

It will be interesting to see if they follow up recent revelations about MLF and SISHA with a story asking whether Cambodia does need an NGO law? At the moment there are no financial checks or balances for NGO's that are only registered here, those two only got outed in part because they have legal presences in the U.S that certainly does.
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby shadow » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:40 am

I am no fan of Somaly Mam, I think she is a fraud. But on the expenditure side from the information on this thread it would look very good compared to some of the more world renowned charity organizations that only spend 2-5% of earnings on the actual intended recipient.
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby vladimir » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:48 am

Precisely, shadow.

First red flag for an NGO: inordinate expenditure on non-target groups/ very high salary percentages.
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby ricecakes » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:32 pm

When will the SISHA audit results get released ?
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby keeping_it_riel » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:53 pm

ricecakes wrote:When will the SISHA audit results get released ?


I understand that the findings are with SISHA and have been for some time. In fact, I'm told they were due to be released a couple of weeks ago but weren't.

Incidentally, there have been a few changes to SISHA's 'expert advisory group'. Take a look........

http://www.sisha.org/about-us/who-we-are/expert-advisory-group/
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby vladimir » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:02 pm

:lol:

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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby ricecakes » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:20 pm

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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby Bosco » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:15 am

keeping_it_riel wrote:Incidentally, there have been a few changes to SISHA's 'expert advisory group'. Take a look........

http://www.sisha.org/about-us/who-we-are/expert-advisory-group/

Maybe they've decided to rely on Khmer440 for all the advice they need.
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby bikkhu » Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:41 am

forget it guys.

these crooks are untouchable, Somaly Mam, APLE, Childcare, Hagar, and the whole underworld of the mom&pop NGOs.

nothing will ever come out of these articles, no matter if even her ex husband is basically admitting she's a fraudster.

besides, they don't need the opinion of the public anymore as nowadays they're happily funded by the big boys at UN, Unesco, and several other umbrella orgs with deep pockets and lots or rich suckers acting as private donors to gain face and later claim they're philanthropists.

Apesif doesn't even allow visitors in their "shelters" unless you're an investor and no photos are allowed, they also pre-check your criminal record and you need to book the visit at least 4 weeks in advance.
--> http://www.afesip.org/get-involved/visiting

and of course it's gonna be all staged if some sneaky journalist manages to get an invitation, no less than in the hundreds of fake orphanages around cambodia.

no exit strategy for all this, the only ones who could destroy Somaly Mam and the gang of NGOs are former employees with a chip on their shoulder but who's going to talk and who's going to publish it on the mainstream media ? these NGOs are big customers of the mainstream media, you can forget about it and same for publishing anti-NGO books, you'll get sued and they will laugh all the way to the bank.

and finally, the average joes don't give a shit and have zero attention span.
all they know is they've been hammered since the last 20 years about the human traffic issues in cambodia and if tomorrow Somaly Mam is busted they will just think she was a rotten apple, they will never EVER accept the whole system and the whole NGOs mafia across the third world is a scam because that would mean to accept that the UN, Unesco, ILO, are on the top of the Ponzi scheme and this is not gonna happen for people gullible enough to give money door to door or online to strangers who claim to save kids in a country they can't even spot on the map.

a fool and his money are soon parted.
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby epidemiks » Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:26 am

bikkhu wrote:Apesif doesn't even allow visitors in their "shelters" unless you're an investor and no photos are allowed, they also pre-check your criminal record and you need to book the visit at least 4 weeks in advance.
--> http://www.afesip.org/get-involved/visiting


Ha. Not at all defending this place, BUT.. If they didn't enforce strict entry conditions that would be OK/better? GTFO.
And what business does any hero internet detective have in visiting any shelter/organisation which looks after at risk/traumatised children. Implying an open door policy should be in place to ensure Joe Bloggs can determine legitimacy/transparency/financial propriety is as ludicrous as saying that vigilante hero pedo-detectors deserve the right to tail/photograph/harass any foreigner they choose, just in case - even if it is a father out on an evening with his daughter.

Even if it's patently obvious SM has exploited children for financial gain, at least they don't let any random dickhead walk in the front door to hug/instagram/save the kids like many others around the country do.
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