Somaly Mam expose in CD?

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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby shadow » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:40 am

I am no fan of Somaly Mam, I think she is a fraud. But on the expenditure side from the information on this thread it would look very good compared to some of the more world renowned charity organizations that only spend 2-5% of earnings on the actual intended recipient.
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby vladimir » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:48 am

Precisely, shadow.

First red flag for an NGO: inordinate expenditure on non-target groups/ very high salary percentages.
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby ricecakes » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:32 pm

When will the SISHA audit results get released ?
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby keeping_it_riel » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:53 pm

ricecakes wrote:When will the SISHA audit results get released ?


I understand that the findings are with SISHA and have been for some time. In fact, I'm told they were due to be released a couple of weeks ago but weren't.

Incidentally, there have been a few changes to SISHA's 'expert advisory group'. Take a look........

http://www.sisha.org/about-us/who-we-are/expert-advisory-group/
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby vladimir » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:02 pm

:lol:

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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby ricecakes » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:20 pm

I can still see nude nut in the photo.
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby Bosco » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:15 am

keeping_it_riel wrote:Incidentally, there have been a few changes to SISHA's 'expert advisory group'. Take a look........

http://www.sisha.org/about-us/who-we-are/expert-advisory-group/

Maybe they've decided to rely on Khmer440 for all the advice they need.
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby bikkhu » Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:41 am

forget it guys.

these crooks are untouchable, Somaly Mam, APLE, Childcare, Hagar, and the whole underworld of the mom&pop NGOs.

nothing will ever come out of these articles, no matter if even her ex husband is basically admitting she's a fraudster.

besides, they don't need the opinion of the public anymore as nowadays they're happily funded by the big boys at UN, Unesco, and several other umbrella orgs with deep pockets and lots or rich suckers acting as private donors to gain face and later claim they're philanthropists.

Apesif doesn't even allow visitors in their "shelters" unless you're an investor and no photos are allowed, they also pre-check your criminal record and you need to book the visit at least 4 weeks in advance.
--> http://www.afesip.org/get-involved/visiting

and of course it's gonna be all staged if some sneaky journalist manages to get an invitation, no less than in the hundreds of fake orphanages around cambodia.

no exit strategy for all this, the only ones who could destroy Somaly Mam and the gang of NGOs are former employees with a chip on their shoulder but who's going to talk and who's going to publish it on the mainstream media ? these NGOs are big customers of the mainstream media, you can forget about it and same for publishing anti-NGO books, you'll get sued and they will laugh all the way to the bank.

and finally, the average joes don't give a shit and have zero attention span.
all they know is they've been hammered since the last 20 years about the human traffic issues in cambodia and if tomorrow Somaly Mam is busted they will just think she was a rotten apple, they will never EVER accept the whole system and the whole NGOs mafia across the third world is a scam because that would mean to accept that the UN, Unesco, ILO, are on the top of the Ponzi scheme and this is not gonna happen for people gullible enough to give money door to door or online to strangers who claim to save kids in a country they can't even spot on the map.

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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby epidemiks » Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:26 am

bikkhu wrote:Apesif doesn't even allow visitors in their "shelters" unless you're an investor and no photos are allowed, they also pre-check your criminal record and you need to book the visit at least 4 weeks in advance.
--> http://www.afesip.org/get-involved/visiting


Ha. Not at all defending this place, BUT.. If they didn't enforce strict entry conditions that would be OK/better? GTFO.
And what business does any hero internet detective have in visiting any shelter/organisation which looks after at risk/traumatised children. Implying an open door policy should be in place to ensure Joe Bloggs can determine legitimacy/transparency/financial propriety is as ludicrous as saying that vigilante hero pedo-detectors deserve the right to tail/photograph/harass any foreigner they choose, just in case - even if it is a father out on an evening with his daughter.

Even if it's patently obvious SM has exploited children for financial gain, at least they don't let any random dickhead walk in the front door to hug/instagram/save the kids like many others around the country do.
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby bikkhu » Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:52 am

epidemiks wrote:Ha. Not at all defending this place, BUT.. If they didn't enforce strict entry conditions that would be OK/better? GTFO.
And what business does any hero internet detective have in visiting any shelter/organisation which looks after at risk/traumatised children. Implying an open door policy should be in place to ensure Joe Bloggs can determine legitimacy/transparency/financial propriety is as ludicrous as saying that vigilante hero pedo-detectors deserve the right to tail/photograph/harass any foreigner they choose, just in case - even if it is a father out on an evening with his daughter.

Even if it's patently obvious SM has exploited children for financial gain, at least they don't let any random dickhead walk in the front door to hug/instagram/save the kids like many others around the country do.


yeah but considering the numerous controversies involving her NGO and the admission by his husband that she doesn't mind being a liar talking in front of the UN and even about her own daughter some more transparency would be welcome.

for starters, is there any shelter at all ? how many girls are living there ? are they really victim of sex traffic or just random poor girls living nearby and getting a free meal and some basic schooling ?

what it's obvious to everybody here is that this scam is going on since 20 years, there are no more shelters and there are no girls, Somaly Mam herself doesn't live in cambodia, the whole NGO is a turn-key company in auto-pilot run in a few offices here and overseas by experience and well paid fund raisers.

she's probably completely clueless as well as the mind behind NGO is his ex husband but of course he ain't going to shoot himself in the foot with further nasty confessions as he would never come out clean from this story.
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby violet » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:13 am

http://penhpal.com/2013/08/sisha-the-anti-trafficking-org-finally-unravels/

as you get further through the replies to this article, they become more and more interesting.
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby andyinasia » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:30 am

violet wrote:http://penhpal.com/2013/08/sisha-the-anti-trafficking-org-finally-unravels/

as you get further through the replies to this article, they become more and more interesting.


very interesting, tnx
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby Jehovah's Bystander » Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:15 am

bikku wrote:

"hey will never EVER accept the whole system and the whole NGOs mafia across the third world is a scam because that would mean to accept that the UN, Unesco, ILO, are on the top of the Ponzi scheme and this is not gonna happen for people gullible enough to give money door to door or online to strangers who claim to save kids in a country they can't even spot on the map."

Missed out on that NGO job, eh?
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby bikkhu » Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:27 am

violet wrote:http://penhpal.com/2013/08/sisha-the-anti-trafficking-org-finally-unravels/

as you get further through the replies to this article, they become more and more interesting.


excellent example of how some NGO fools like this weirdo Tony Ryan twist reality and blame the messangers.
Drummond dismissed all his BS with style as usual.
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Re: Somaly Mam expose in CD?

Postby Falcon Randwick » Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:33 am

Thought you (as we all hoped) were pissing off from this forum.
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