Perhaps I still need to research this topic but maybe people who think chemotherapy is an effective cure for cancer are the cultish ones. The majority is not always right.SLAA_Cambodia wrote:
Calling AA or any other 12 Step program "cult like" is quite a ridiculous ad hominen.
This like saying that because you personally don't believe in chemotherapy as a treatment for cancer then it doesn't, can't or won't work and anyone who has had, or freely chooses to take a course of chemo is a member of some strange belief system...
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What about a Solipsist?
Those who begin coercive elimination of dissent soon find themselves exterminating dissenters. Compulsory unification of opinion achieves only the unanimity of the graveyard.
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Are you talking to yourself again?OrangeDragon wrote:What about a Solipsist?
I came, I argued, I'm out
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Can an old dog learn new tricks?OrangeDragon wrote:What about a Solipsist?
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Who? Me.andyinasia wrote:Are you talking to yourself again?OrangeDragon wrote:What about a Solipsist?
Those who begin coercive elimination of dissent soon find themselves exterminating dissenters. Compulsory unification of opinion achieves only the unanimity of the graveyard.
Robert H. Jackson, West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette
Robert H. Jackson, West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette
An easy enough concept to grasp I would have thought?Essentially the point of the higher power concept is to stop thinking of yourself as the centre of the universe all the time.
As a conversational aside, I googled "imbecile" to confirm my understanding that the word had an emphasis on "naive", "child-like", "simplistic", etc, above merely, um, "obtuse", and I stumbled on the medical definitions for Moron (IQ 51-71), imbecile (IQ 26-50), and Idiot (IQ 0-20).
Understanding what an IQ of 0 even means is beyond my limited intellectual grasp.
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Google what the word Solipsist means next... you'll see they're, by definition, excluded.
Those who begin coercive elimination of dissent soon find themselves exterminating dissenters. Compulsory unification of opinion achieves only the unanimity of the graveyard.
Robert H. Jackson, West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette
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indeed.Orange Dragon wrote:Google what the word Solipsist means next... you'll see they're, by definition, excluded.
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keeping_it_riel wrote:Before we go any further, the OP has made a serious post so if you feel he need to respond, keep your replies serious also. No smart ass stuff or trolling, thanks.
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a) he played back... so i doubt he's too upset about it. it's bumping his thread to the top after all.curious person wrote:keeping_it_riel wrote:Before we go any further, the OP has made a serious post so if you feel he need to respond, keep your replies serious also. No smart ass stuff or trolling, thanks.
b) with enough negativity in here on the subject i felt it could use a little levity. if KIR disagrees he's free to delete it all and go back to people whining,nitpicking, and jumping down the throat of someone trying to be helpful.
Those who begin coercive elimination of dissent soon find themselves exterminating dissenters. Compulsory unification of opinion achieves only the unanimity of the graveyard.
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Again, I appreciate that someone took the time to go and visit the website and do some research.FreeSocrates! wrote:http://store.slaafws.org/merchant.mvc?S ... e_Code=SOS
It seems to be some type of giant Sex Shame Ponzi Scheme to me...
It quite patently is not a Ponzi scheme. There are no financial rewards involved - other than maybe getting your life back on track and the benefits that can come from that.
With regards to "sex shame" - that sounds like a self-defined term. The problem arises when behaviour gets out of control for a particular person and things start falling apart in their life. What drives that is difficult to measure - one man's poison is another man's nectar.
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While it looks like an obvious, yet weak, attempt at trolling it does raise an interesting question about how to define the problem. Sure, alcoholics have the drink problem fairly neatly defined and the solution seems obvious i.e. don't drink that first drink.vladimir wrote:Does the Kiwi chapter advise mutton abstinence?Pol Pothead wrote:As far as addictions go, it sure beats alcoholism.
For someone suffering from a sexual addiction or sexual behaviour that is out of control the definition of their sobriety can't necessarily be as black and white as there will probably be behaviours in between that need to be addressed as well. No one said it was easy...back to someone who can't stop having affairs or using prostitutes as an example - there's a fair chance their behaviour in terms of the places they frequent or the websites the use to meet partners needs to be changed. Difficult to stop the affairs if you are a member of a dating website, using hook-up apps or hanging out in hostess bars for example.
I originally brought up the connection (or lack of it) with religion to tease out whether this was another Bible bashing crowd from the southern United States. It is clear to me that is not the case with these guys. What they do is not particularly interesting for me but there's obviously a target audience or else they wouldn't be doing it.
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