Why you look down on Cambodian people?
Cue Vlad..
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"Reading made Don Quixote a gentleman. Believing what he read made him mad."
"Reading made Don Quixote a gentleman. Believing what he read made him mad."
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That could be an interesting debate as well. According to what I have been reading, there is indeed a strong correlation between higher education attainment and longer life spans, primarily because the better educated one is, the better health choices one tends to make, and as you have a higher income, the better food you tend to eat. If you look at the obese in America, for example, they're overwhelmingly skewed towards the poor, and this has a correlation to poor nutrition and higher intake of fast food because of cost. Now these people (the poor in America) have food and have love, but I'm not convinced they're particularly happy. Then again, they seem quite content to watch stupid TV shows all the time so maybe they are in spite of the lifestyle they lead.SCC wrote:Education is not necessary . Food and love are what's necessary to be happy, and keeping a fair distance from the educated so as not to be exploited by them. Because once they meet educated people then you are going to have to send more educated people in to save them. Cue a great money making idea.
We hurt, live and die at all ages whether we are educated or not and wherever we are on the planet.
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No issue with this statement whatsoever.holidayinkh wrote:Different people want different things out of life, and have their own personal definitions of success.
Usually it's some mixture of safety, stability, wealth, education, adventure, experience, freedom (defined varyingly), materialism, comfort, happiness, etc. No ones definition is right or wrong, and outside of abuse, no one has the right to tell another how to live or raise their child.
Most of the above goals can be attained in Cambodia. In many cases easier than in western countries. Obviously, if safety and stability are the top things you require to feel successful, Cambodia is not the place for you. Regarding children and education, obviously not many people would choose to have their child go to university here, but there are options - especially for any children of western expats, since most of them will get citizenship from their expat parent(s).
Particularly the bit about how to raise one's child. I would add that in my experience, the ones who are the most strident and vociferous in their arguments about how to raise children tend to be childless. Once you actually have the rugrats, life intervenes and your absolutism goes in the bin in favour of practicality. In terms of macro-level choices such as where you raise the child, religion you instruct them in etc., that's a more interesting discussion because then you can compare the situations and choices made. I was quite interested to have the discussion with the splinter guy, but after his initial response it became apparent to me that he was a troll and there would be no point to carrying on. Strangely, this is only the second time I've seen the thread since then because I put him on "ignore" even though there seem to have been several posts without his involvement.
Anyway, I'm happy enough to continue the conversation if anyone else wants to. But I don't see splinter's posts, nor do I wish to, as I won't respond to trolls.
I'd say getting up on a moto and driving around, you will find that most don't look down on you.
Fair enough Jacked. I was kinda being more idealistic about it in a sense. You know, the primitive tribe who has had no contact with outsiders yet, sort of thing. But you're def right in the developed country model. Incidentally, I'm not sure whether I personally would rather live a short happy life or a sad long one. In the end I'm sure it's as one poster already mentione, genetic. I've noticed that people from happy families tend to have happy families themselves for example?by Jacked Camry » Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:51 pm
SCC wrote:
Education is not necessary . Food and love are what's necessary to be happy, and keeping a fair distance from the educated so as not to be exploited by them. Because once they meet educated people then you are going to have to send more educated people in to save them. Cue a great money making idea.
We hurt, live and die at all ages whether we are educated or not and wherever we are on the planet.
That could be an interesting debate as well. According to what I have been reading, there is indeed a strong correlation between higher education attainment and longer life spans, primarily because the better educated one is, the better health choices one tends to make, and as you have a higher income, the better food you tend to eat. If you look at the obese in America, for example, they're overwhelmingly skewed towards the poor, and this has a correlation to poor nutrition and higher intake of fast food because of cost. Now these people (the poor in America) have food and have love, but I'm not convinced they're particularly happy. Then again, they seem quite content to watch stupid TV shows all the time so maybe they are in spite of the lifestyle they lead.
Re; your last comment. Stupid = Happy? )
K440 : Lucky cheese for the gentry; poultry and death for the peasants.
"Reading made Don Quixote a gentleman. Believing what he read made him mad."
"Reading made Don Quixote a gentleman. Believing what he read made him mad."
That's probably why JJ Rousseau gave all his children away.Jacked Camry wrote:
Particularly the bit about how to raise one's child. I would add that in my experience, the ones who are the most strident and vociferous in their arguments about how to raise children tend to be childless. Once you actually have the rugrats, life intervenes and your absolutism goes in the bin in favour of practicality.
K440 : Lucky cheese for the gentry; poultry and death for the peasants.
"Reading made Don Quixote a gentleman. Believing what he read made him mad."
"Reading made Don Quixote a gentleman. Believing what he read made him mad."
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splinter wrote:Jacked Camry wrote: Again, we're talking from the perspective of better off Westerners here. Which means you're putting your kids through an International School like NISC or ISPP. These are great schools compared to the majority of those in the West. I took my kids back unexpectedly about 3 years ago and they went to Canadian schools in one of the best areas in the biggest metropolitan area. Despite going to an entirely different curriculum in the middle of the school year in highly stressful circumstances, they both did well above the average and got good marks. So much for that argument. The international schools are much more diverse, have lower student-teacher ratios and are International Baccalaureate or heading towards it which means the kids qualify for universities in Europe or North America. That is something that the majority of the US schools cannot offer or attain. The kids from these schools who are interested in western universities are able to get into some great schools. I am so glad my kids went through these schools - at their present ones (in Thailand), they get recruiters from the US coming to try to sell them on the idea of attending because they know these kids add a lot of diversity and because they've been able to handle the IB they're almost certain not to flunk out, unlike US kids. Have you looked at worldwide educational rankings lately?
Not so much. You have to pay for those schools, your kids are surrounded by spoiled punks, and the academic standards and quality is lower than it is in the West.
If your kids want to matriculate to a well known top-quality university in the West, good luck. It probably isn't going to happen short of some significant donation from dad.
And despite your ignorance or self-delusion, Southeast Asia ranks at the very bottom for education in the world, and yes that includes the fancy private schools. Don't take my word for it. Crack up a copy of the Bangkok Post or the Nation. The Thai rich have been up in arms for years over the poor quality of education there, in a country much richer than this.
I just wanted to update this thread as I had directly challenged one of splinter/air stone's many assertions about raising kids here by noting that for kids who have attended international schools, there is actually a competitive advantage and that many of them DO get into top quality Western universities.Jacked Camry wrote:I discussed the education issue in another post in response to Cambodian (the poster) which included some discussion about their classmates. And in the paragraph you quoted above, I demonstrated that my kids were ahead of their Canadian peers when they had to transfer there for a semester. Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I don't have to take your word for anything, I have direct experience of raising two kids here who are doing very well and are being recruited by excellent US universities. How does that gibe with your statements?
It is my great pleasure to inform you air stone, that my daughter has been accepted to both of the universities in Canada that she applied to, and got a scholarship to one of them. Have you any comment on that?
You just resurrected a 10 month old thread so you can boast that your daughter got admitted to Uni?!Jacked Camry wrote:
I just wanted to update this thread as I had directly challenged one of splinter/air stone's many assertions about raising kids here by noting that for kids who have attended international schools, there is actually a competitive advantage and that many of them DO get into top quality Western universities.
It is my great pleasure to inform you air stone, that my daughter has been accepted to both of the universities in Canada that she applied to, and got a scholarship to one of them. Have you any comment on that?
Congrats to her --- but this post is more than a little self-absorbed and silly.
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Taxi, we'd rather walk. Huddle a doorway with the rain dogs The Rum pours strong and thin. Beat out the dustman with the Rain Dogs; Oh, how we danced and you Whispered to me ... You'll never be going back home
Partial Lyrics - Tom Waits
Partial Lyrics - Tom Waits
I look down on certain Cambodians because they rip me off. The rest are brilliant.
K440 : Lucky cheese for the gentry; poultry and death for the peasants.
"Reading made Don Quixote a gentleman. Believing what he read made him mad."
"Reading made Don Quixote a gentleman. Believing what he read made him mad."
I don't see boasting; I see a proud father - nothing wrong or self-aborbed or silly with that.Rain Dog wrote:You just resurrected a 10 month old thread so you can boast that your daughter got admitted to Uni?!Jacked Camry wrote:
I just wanted to update this thread as I had directly challenged one of splinter/air stone's many assertions about raising kids here by noting that for kids who have attended international schools, there is actually a competitive advantage and that many of them DO get into top quality Western universities.
It is my great pleasure to inform you air stone, that my daughter has been accepted to both of the universities in Canada that she applied to, and got a scholarship to one of them. Have you any comment on that?
Congrats to her --- but this post is more than a little self-absorbed and silly.
That it's also a killer parting shot to those who claimed otherwise is just icing on the cake as far as I can see.
Uncalled for, Rain Dog.Rain Dog wrote:You just resurrected a 10 month old thread so you can boast that your daughter got admitted to Uni?!Jacked Camry wrote:
I just wanted to update this thread as I had directly challenged one of splinter/air stone's many assertions about raising kids here by noting that for kids who have attended international schools, there is actually a competitive advantage and that many of them DO get into top quality Western universities.
It is my great pleasure to inform you air stone, that my daughter has been accepted to both of the universities in Canada that she applied to, and got a scholarship to one of them. Have you any comment on that?
Congrats to her --- but this post is more than a little self-absorbed and silly.
It's in line with the thread's discussion as splinter/air stone contended that children like Jacked Camry's wouldn't be able to do good or have disadvantages.
JC loves his children, supported them and is happy and proud about what they can achieve in spite of the predictions of people who tried to put them down. It's hardly boasting.
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Don't worry about it Joon, I have him on ignore and I know he has a hard-on for me so I don't care about his bitterness.Joon wrote:Uncalled for, Rain Dog.Rain Dog wrote:You just resurrected a 10 month old thread so you can boast that your daughter got admitted to Uni?!Jacked Camry wrote:
I just wanted to update this thread as I had directly challenged one of splinter/air stone's many assertions about raising kids here by noting that for kids who have attended international schools, there is actually a competitive advantage and that many of them DO get into top quality Western universities.
It is my great pleasure to inform you air stone, that my daughter has been accepted to both of the universities in Canada that she applied to, and got a scholarship to one of them. Have you any comment on that?
Congrats to her --- but this post is more than a little self-absorbed and silly.
It's in line with the thread's discussion as splinter/air stone contended that children like Jacked Camry's wouldn't be able to do good or have disadvantages.
JC loves his children, supported them and is happy and proud about what they can achieve in spite of the predictions of people who tried to put them down. It's hardly boasting.
I will decide what I think is "called for" or not thank you. Resurrecting a 10 month old thread to boast .. is what it is.Joon wrote:
Uncalled for, Rain Dog.
It's in line with the thread's discussion as splinter/air stone contended that children like Jacked Camry's wouldn't be able to do good or have disadvantages.
JC loves his children, supported them and is happy and proud about what they can achieve in spite of the predictions of people who tried to put them down. It's hardly boasting.
I am not going to comment on JC's family --- those type of things are uncalled for on any forum. I don't know them and I doubt you do either, so no point making comments about things you know nothing about.
I do know boasting when I see it. I will also point out that just a few months ago JC was arguing that his ethnic group was inherently (genetically) superior to other groups in terms of predisposition to intelligence. So it is a bit ironic that he is now attributing her uni acceptance to Cambodia Based Education instead.
Taxi, we'd rather walk. Huddle a doorway with the rain dogs The Rum pours strong and thin. Beat out the dustman with the Rain Dogs; Oh, how we danced and you Whispered to me ... You'll never be going back home
Partial Lyrics - Tom Waits
Partial Lyrics - Tom Waits
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