Dutch pedo Pieter Ceulen in Cambodia
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Fresh off the presses: he is lodging an appeal at the Supreme Court (cassatie). He just doesn't give up... Wonder though what he thinks to achieve, since this court does not look at facts or evidence but judges only whether the lower court has applied the law incorrectly. Guess it means what we already know: he is very arrogant.
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The Supreme Court may not look at facts or evidence but does it look at sentences imposed? He has been whining about that from the get go so perhaps that is the thrust of the appeal.Concerned Dutchie wrote:Fresh off the presses: he is lodging an appeal at the Supreme Court (cassatie). He just doesn't give up... Wonder though what he thinks to achieve, since this court does not look at facts or evidence but judges only whether the lower court has applied the law incorrectly. Guess it means what we already know: he is very arrogant.
I'm unfamiliar with the legal system in Belgium but do know in the UK there are two possible elements to an appeal. The first is an appeal against the conviction on the basis of evidential issues or legal directions/procedure that renders the initial conviction unsafe - which can result in a retrial or the verdict being set aside and a conviction being quashed.
The second element is appealing the sentence imposed on the basis that it is unfair or inappropriate. Appeals on sentence length can be from the convicted person or from the Attorney General if they are considered to be too lenient. The Court Of Appeal has the power to increase a sentence even if it is instigated by the convict.
I assume he is weaseling for a sentence reduction because there has been no suggestion of the law being incorrectly administered procedurally, as far as I know.
I'm pretty sure the cour de cassation only rules on procedural matters and never on individual cases. He's wasting his time and money unless there was a miscarriage of justice, which is very doubtful. Lower courts are free to determine sentencing and that couldn't be a valid reason for appeal.
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What's the worth of money when you can't spend it or time if it's already being wasted. Dude's old and doesn't want to waste his twilight years in the slammer. Despite all, can you really blame him?logos wrote: He's wasting his time and money unless there was a miscarriage of justice, which is very doubtful.
After cassatie he can appeal at the european court.
Not sure what he can gain there but that might be the reason he does this.
Not sure what he can gain there but that might be the reason he does this.
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Cassatie denied today. No new trial for the nonce.
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20170420_02842229
https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/belg ... le-128217/
Dutch pedophile Pieter Ceulen, who fled to Cambodia last year after being sentenced to 19 years in prison by a Belgian court, was denied a new trial in Brussels on Tuesday, a spokesman for a Belgian NGO said on Wednesday.
Mr. Ceulen, a businessman and serial offender, was convicted of making child pornography, including some with his adopted Cambodian children, in absentia by a court in Antwerp in January last year.
That month, he went missing while on bail, only to turn up in Cambodia, where he was arrested in Phnom Penh in March, deported back to Belgium and then arrested upon arrival and sent to prison.
Belgium’s high court, the “Cour de Cassation,” which reviews whether lower courts followed proper legal procedure, denied Mr. Ceulen’s appeal for a new trial, said Dirk Depover, spokesman for NGO Child Focus, which was a civil party to the trial.
Mr. Ceulen argued unsuccessfully that a television documentary about his case, which aired days before the first ruling, had made it impossible for him to have a fair trial, Mr. Depover said.
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20170420_02842229
https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/belg ... le-128217/
Dutch pedophile Pieter Ceulen, who fled to Cambodia last year after being sentenced to 19 years in prison by a Belgian court, was denied a new trial in Brussels on Tuesday, a spokesman for a Belgian NGO said on Wednesday.
Mr. Ceulen, a businessman and serial offender, was convicted of making child pornography, including some with his adopted Cambodian children, in absentia by a court in Antwerp in January last year.
That month, he went missing while on bail, only to turn up in Cambodia, where he was arrested in Phnom Penh in March, deported back to Belgium and then arrested upon arrival and sent to prison.
Belgium’s high court, the “Cour de Cassation,” which reviews whether lower courts followed proper legal procedure, denied Mr. Ceulen’s appeal for a new trial, said Dirk Depover, spokesman for NGO Child Focus, which was a civil party to the trial.
Mr. Ceulen argued unsuccessfully that a television documentary about his case, which aired days before the first ruling, had made it impossible for him to have a fair trial, Mr. Depover said.
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Good news.
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It is excellent news but I wonder if we can get definitive clarification on what the minimum time to be served will be from someone who is au fait with current Belgium laws.
Looking at the last couple of pages I'm not sure exactly what the situation is. Is it one third minimum (seemingly not due to a recent law change) or is it now one half minimum or is it 19 years before he could get out?
Looking at the last couple of pages I'm not sure exactly what the situation is. Is it one third minimum (seemingly not due to a recent law change) or is it now one half minimum or is it 19 years before he could get out?
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Ugh. I just read on the other forum that he has been released on parole. Bloody disgusting outcome.
The man is utter filth
“The most severely punished child abuser in our country ever - Pieter C. - has been released on parole in all discretion by the criminal enforcement court of East Flanders after 7 years in prison. The man had received a 19-year prison sentence and remains under the supervision of the judicial authorities for a further 15 years..”
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2023/07/05 ... sed-early/
700gb - I think it was 100s of 1000s of images and video. Bastard. And the bastards who granted parole.
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The man is utter filth
“The most severely punished child abuser in our country ever - Pieter C. - has been released on parole in all discretion by the criminal enforcement court of East Flanders after 7 years in prison. The man had received a 19-year prison sentence and remains under the supervision of the judicial authorities for a further 15 years..”
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2023/07/05 ... sed-early/
700gb - I think it was 100s of 1000s of images and video. Bastard. And the bastards who granted parole.
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Or a very wealthy, connected individual
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Seems you were pretty much in the ballpark with one third minimumbipolar bear wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:17 amIt is excellent news but I wonder if we can get definitive clarification on what the minimum time to be served will be from someone who is au fait with current Belgium laws.
Looking at the last couple of pages I'm not sure exactly what the situation is. Is it one third minimum (seemingly not due to a recent law change) or is it now one half minimum or is it 19 years before he could get out?
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Doubt it; Cambodia isn't where the wealthy pedophiles generally flee. I rather suspect it is the Belgium system.
To be fair, I don't know what the terms of supervised release are in Belgium. They may well be quite restrictive and appropriate. My fear is that they are not.
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He was reportedly a billionaire, but yes, seems likely the Belgium systemPrahok wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 7:01 pmDoubt it; Cambodia isn't where the wealthy pedophiles generally flee. I rather suspect it is the Belgium system.
To be fair, I don't know what the terms of supervised release are in Belgium. They may well be quite restrictive and appropriate. My fear is that they are not.
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