And like it.shitegeist wrote:gavinmac wrote:You don’t have to have too much of an imagination to see where this whole slippery slope is heading.
Edit: quote wrongly attributed to GM. Was in fact shitegeist.
Post by Marmite » Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:23 pm
shitegeist wrote:Yeah, me either, and I’m surprised and amused to see so many posters on here crowing about a westerner getting banged up on bullshit charges, lunatic or not, and people offering up the usual moronic, self-loathing platitudes about "we’re only guests" and "we must be silent and apolitical" because they happen not to have a Cambodian passport or something. Same for the cheap cynicism on here about the CD reporters also facing bullshit charges. You don’t have to have too much of an imagination to see where this whole slippery slope is heading.gavinmac wrote:I don't like the idea of Western bloggers, filmmakers, or pseudo-journalists in Cambodia being arrested for spying or writing offensive things.
Post by shitegeist » Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:05 pm
Post by gavinmac » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:54 am
Post by Felgerkarb » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:17 am
Well, there is a reason why he is jailed and those of us other expats, here for decades, are not. There are some basics to living here and it isn't moronic or self loathing to understand those basics.shitegeist wrote:Yeah, me either, and I’m surprised and amused to see so many posters on here crowing about a westerner getting banged up on bullshit charges, lunatic or not, and people offering up the usual moronic, self-loathing platitudes about "we’re only guests" and "we must be silent and apolitical" because they happen not to have a Cambodian passport or something. Same for the cheap cynicism on here about the CD reporters also facing bullshit charges. You don’t have to have too much of an imagination to see where this whole slippery slope is heading.gavinmac wrote:I don't like the idea of Western bloggers, filmmakers, or pseudo-journalists in Cambodia being arrested for spying or writing offensive things.
Post by shitegeist » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:27 am
Nonsense. The prospect of being illegally detained without charge and then eventually stitched up for an extremely serious crime thanks to some fantastical allegations was never part of "the basics". There used to be at least some relationship, however flimsy, between individual actions and the legal outcome. This time, however, instead of charging him with incitement or a breach of aviation laws or causing public disorder or something reasonable and then giving him the boot, we have the public spectacle of James "007" Ricketson, which is really some next-level absurdity. All this does is give oxygen to a whole cast of degenerates now in prison, like Fletcher for instance, who can now credibly claim that Cambodia is a country where the legal system will stitch up a westerner for very serious crimes of which they are totally innocent. It’s all fun and games for as long as it’s someone you feel "deserves" it, of course….Felgerkarb wrote:Well, there is a reason why he is jailed and those of us other expats, here for decades, are not. There are some basics to living here and it isn't moronic or self loathing to understand those basics.
Post by Prahok » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:51 am
The basic rules of local politics have not changed (actually they may well be improving), it's just foreigners are now playing and they don't understand the rules.shitegeist wrote:Nonsense. The prospect of being illegally detained without charge and then eventually stitched up for an extremely serious crime thanks to some fantastical allegations was never part of "the basics".
Post by scobienz » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:34 pm
Post by batshitcrazyweirdo » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:49 pm
Welcome to Cambodia. Don't go gettin a fucked up like Ricketson. He's a dumb ass.shitegeist wrote:Nonsense. The prospect of being illegally detained without charge and then eventually stitched up for an extremely serious crime thanks to some fantastical allegations was never part of "the basics". There used to be at least some relationship, however flimsy, between individual actions and the legal outcome. This time, however, instead of charging him with incitement or a breach of aviation laws or causing public disorder or something reasonable and then giving him the boot, we have the public spectacle of James "007" Ricketson, which is really some next-level absurdity. All this does is give oxygen to a whole cast of degenerates now in prison, like Fletcher for instance, who can now credibly claim that Cambodia is a country where the legal system will stitch up a westerner for very serious crimes of which they are totally innocent. It’s all fun and games for as long as it’s someone you feel "deserves" it, of course….Felgerkarb wrote:Well, there is a reason why he is jailed and those of us other expats, here for decades, are not. There are some basics to living here and it isn't moronic or self loathing to understand those basics.
Post by Felgerkarb » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:53 am
You are assigning way to much value to this guy. I am not hitching my wagon to a well known, unhinged expat who specializes and insists upon making enemies of a third world judicial system and craps on his own "profession". Guys like that never last long here and it always ends badly for them. That is not nonsense, that is fact.shitegeist wrote:Nonsense. The prospect of being illegally detained without charge and then eventually stitched up for an extremely serious crime thanks to some fantastical allegations was never part of "the basics". There used to be at least some relationship, however flimsy, between individual actions and the legal outcome. This time, however, instead of charging him with incitement or a breach of aviation laws or causing public disorder or something reasonable and then giving him the boot, we have the public spectacle of James "007" Ricketson, which is really some next-level absurdity. All this does is give oxygen to a whole cast of degenerates now in prison, like Fletcher for instance, who can now credibly claim that Cambodia is a country where the legal system will stitch up a westerner for very serious crimes of which they are totally innocent. It’s all fun and games for as long as it’s someone you feel "deserves" it, of course….Felgerkarb wrote:Well, there is a reason why he is jailed and those of us other expats, here for decades, are not. There are some basics to living here and it isn't moronic or self loathing to understand those basics.
Post by Lucky Lucan » Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:19 pm
What is that even supposed to mean? A monk among the living as opposed to what?gavinmac wrote:He's "a monk among the living" apparently.
Post by Marmite » Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:39 pm
Lucky Lucan wrote:What is that even supposed to mean? A monk among the living as opposed to what?gavinmac wrote:He's "a monk among the living" apparently.
Otherwise the article did seem balanced and at least gave the views of his detractors as well as Charles Waterstreet's.