63 y/o Australian teacher Robert Craig Cameron jumps from ICS 6th Floor and dies
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Very tragic. What basis would there be to think it is not a suicide
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They're out to get us, man.merchantsmutual wrote:Very tragic. What basis would there be to think it is not a suicide
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Surprised they didn't say it was a heart attack.
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We try to figure out all sorts of angles. It's not all open and closed cases, unless you think it is.merchantsmutual wrote:Very tragic. What basis would there be to think it is not a suicide
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
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Maybe he and the previous teacher who topped himself were 'an item', and he couldn't live without him.
Maybe his workload doubled after his colleague topped himself.
Maybe he was high on LSD and thought he could fly.
Who knows - RIP
Maybe his workload doubled after his colleague topped himself.
Maybe he was high on LSD and thought he could fly.
Who knows - RIP
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simon44 wrote:Maybe he and the previous teacher who topped himself were 'an item', and he couldn't live without him.
Maybe his workload doubled after his colleague topped himself.
His colleague had a heart attack. Or at least that's what they want us to believe.
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gavinmac wrote:simon44 wrote:Maybe he and the previous teacher who topped himself were 'an item', and he couldn't live without him.
Maybe his workload doubled after his colleague topped himself.
His colleague had a heart attack. Or at least that's what they want us to believe.
A good overview of Robert Cameron's legal problems in the Scottish Daily Mail over the weekend.
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/scottish ... 6147331352
Kidnap father who sparked international manhunt is found dead in Cambodia
Police treating teacher’s fall from window as ‘suicide’
Scottish Daily Mail24 Jun 2017By Jonathan Brocklebank and Peter McGlone
HE was once one of Scotland’s most notorious fugitives, after kidnapping his daughter Sasha and hiding out in the Far East.
Now, 16 years after the girl was returned to her mother’s home, Robert Cameron has been found dead in the grounds of a Cambodian school amid fears he jumped from a sixth-floor window.
Last night his ex-wife Fiona, 57, of Portmahomack, Easter Ross, said her family received the news with ‘great sadness’ but that it had been years since they had contact with him. In a statement she said: ‘Our thoughts are with any who may still have been close to him.’
The tragic postscript to a tug-of-love battle which made headlines around the world was disclosed on expatriate websites in Cambodia.
They said 63-year-old Mr Cameron, believed to have been married to 42-year-old Cambodian Sorya Song, was teaching in the school in Phnom Penh.
His body is believed to have been found by a colleague and police are treating his death as suicide.
It was in 2001 that Edinburgh University graduate Mr Cameron and his then 11-year-old daughter were tracked down to a yacht off the coast of Indonesia, where he had been keeping her a virtual prisoner. She was removed and returned to her mother, but there was no explanation as to why he was not arrested.
He had been the subject of an international manhunt for 27 months and a French court had already sentenced him to a year in jail in his absence. In the UK, warrants had been issued for the arrest of him and his girlfriend Jennifer Carter.
The youngster was taken away days after she and her elder sister Rachael flew to France to stay with their father and Miss Carter under access arrangements decided by a court. While Rachael flew home unexpectedly after a few days, Mr Cameron headed for the Far East with his younger daughter and contacted the Children’s Panel in Scotland to say he would not be handing her back.
They travelled to Singapore and then Indonesia, where Sasha remained aboard the 40ft yacht Valkyrie. Her only friend was a local teenager with whom she exchanged emails.
Nine months after her disappearance, Sasha, who is now 27, wrote to the Children’s Panel reporter in Dingwall, Ross-shire, claiming she was happy, but her mother believed the contents had been dictated by her ex-husband.
Sasha was found after an engine problem meant her father had to approach immigration officers to extend his stay in South Sulawesi, a remote corner of Indonesia. They knew he was wanted and her mother flew out to collect her.
Back with her mother, sister and brother Hamish at home, Sasha resumed her schooling. She said she had lived ‘like a pirate’ for two years, rarely able to go ashore.
She said: ‘I was eating rice, fish and vegetables all the time. I hate rice, I hate fish, but I knew I had to eat the vegetables because they were good for me.’
It is believed Mr Cameron, who had dual UK and Australian citizenship, had been working for the last few years as a teacher.
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/scottish ... 6147331352
Kidnap father who sparked international manhunt is found dead in Cambodia
Police treating teacher’s fall from window as ‘suicide’
Scottish Daily Mail24 Jun 2017By Jonathan Brocklebank and Peter McGlone
HE was once one of Scotland’s most notorious fugitives, after kidnapping his daughter Sasha and hiding out in the Far East.
Now, 16 years after the girl was returned to her mother’s home, Robert Cameron has been found dead in the grounds of a Cambodian school amid fears he jumped from a sixth-floor window.
Last night his ex-wife Fiona, 57, of Portmahomack, Easter Ross, said her family received the news with ‘great sadness’ but that it had been years since they had contact with him. In a statement she said: ‘Our thoughts are with any who may still have been close to him.’
The tragic postscript to a tug-of-love battle which made headlines around the world was disclosed on expatriate websites in Cambodia.
They said 63-year-old Mr Cameron, believed to have been married to 42-year-old Cambodian Sorya Song, was teaching in the school in Phnom Penh.
His body is believed to have been found by a colleague and police are treating his death as suicide.
It was in 2001 that Edinburgh University graduate Mr Cameron and his then 11-year-old daughter were tracked down to a yacht off the coast of Indonesia, where he had been keeping her a virtual prisoner. She was removed and returned to her mother, but there was no explanation as to why he was not arrested.
He had been the subject of an international manhunt for 27 months and a French court had already sentenced him to a year in jail in his absence. In the UK, warrants had been issued for the arrest of him and his girlfriend Jennifer Carter.
The youngster was taken away days after she and her elder sister Rachael flew to France to stay with their father and Miss Carter under access arrangements decided by a court. While Rachael flew home unexpectedly after a few days, Mr Cameron headed for the Far East with his younger daughter and contacted the Children’s Panel in Scotland to say he would not be handing her back.
They travelled to Singapore and then Indonesia, where Sasha remained aboard the 40ft yacht Valkyrie. Her only friend was a local teenager with whom she exchanged emails.
Nine months after her disappearance, Sasha, who is now 27, wrote to the Children’s Panel reporter in Dingwall, Ross-shire, claiming she was happy, but her mother believed the contents had been dictated by her ex-husband.
Sasha was found after an engine problem meant her father had to approach immigration officers to extend his stay in South Sulawesi, a remote corner of Indonesia. They knew he was wanted and her mother flew out to collect her.
Back with her mother, sister and brother Hamish at home, Sasha resumed her schooling. She said she had lived ‘like a pirate’ for two years, rarely able to go ashore.
She said: ‘I was eating rice, fish and vegetables all the time. I hate rice, I hate fish, but I knew I had to eat the vegetables because they were good for me.’
It is believed Mr Cameron, who had dual UK and Australian citizenship, had been working for the last few years as a teacher.
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None of which gives a clue as to why he would now commit suicide.
Edit. One year sentence....received years ago....why now?
So long ago. He must have been in fear of being imprisoned. Was some blackmailing himhere? Why now, would his past be catching up with him?
Edit. One year sentence....received years ago....why now?
So long ago. He must have been in fear of being imprisoned. Was some blackmailing himhere? Why now, would his past be catching up with him?
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violet wrote:None of which gives a clue as to why he would now commit suicide.
He was 63 and teaching English in Cambodia. That would be enough to drive anyone to suicide.
Who knows why anyone does anything? It's fanciful to say he was being blackmailed. It's not like he had a position in society to lose. It's a tragic story but let's not get all conspiracy theory about it. People have mental issues. People get depressed. Something snaps. RIP.
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Well, bringing up a possibility of blackmail was about as relevant as posting his back history, some decades back. Just saying. It is what sensationalist tabloids do. K440 may be gossipy, but there used to be an intelligent line....
And you used to have more wit than to join the baying clique by rolling out stupid statements about age, teaching English and Cambodia. That is what those who cannot be bothered formulating an intelligent comment do. You used to contribute better.
And you used to have more wit than to join the baying clique by rolling out stupid statements about age, teaching English and Cambodia. That is what those who cannot be bothered formulating an intelligent comment do. You used to contribute better.
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violet wrote:Well, bringing up a possibility of blackmail was about as relevant as posting his back history, some decades back. Just saying. It is what sensationalist tabloids do. K440 may be gossipy, but there used to be an intelligent line....
And you used to have more wit than to join the baying clique by rolling out stupid statements about age, teaching English and Cambodia. That is what those who cannot be bothered formulating an intelligent comment do. You used to contribute better.
Everyone's back history is relevant to their current situation. That's what life is . . an accumulated set of iterative decisions which take us down a certain path. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that decision to kidnap his daughter and hold her on a boat for 27 months contributed to the start of a rapid decline which led to the events of last week.
As for comments about age and teaching English. He is an elderly man, detached from any family (for obvious reasons) and he is making a living teaching in Cambodia. When he had his daughter prisoner on his 40 foot yacht off the coast of Indonesia, he likely didnt see that in his future. I can only speak for myself, but that would be enough to make me want to top myself.
Thank you for your comment about the quality of my posts. As the coquettish - 'talk to me, oh but don't talk to me' - muse of the BSCW clusterfuck, I shall use your example oh high quality and completely intelligent posting history as a model in future.
Kidnap appears to be a strong accusation. I don't believe it possible to kidnap your own child in criminal terms. She travelled with him willingly half way around the world. She had contact with the outside world.
Breach of visitation rights is more befitting.
If he did commit suicide, then he obviously had a tormented soul for some reason.
RIP.
Breach of visitation rights is more befitting.
If he did commit suicide, then he obviously had a tormented soul for some reason.
RIP.
So, not an "Australian" but a half cast, confused idiot..It is believed Mr Cameron, who had dual UK and Australian citizenship, had been working for the last few years as a teacher.
Sounds like the pleb with a strong wanker accent who recently moved in to one of my units.
Say's he's born in NSW, lived in UK most of his life, but hides from the world..
I do like it when he talks about opening a hotdog stand...
very convincing twit is he
Lucky he gets the dole and, i get his rent before he sees any government money
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