Yes, difficult to disagree with anything there, clear and to the point. I guess I am really more wondering just what kind of transformation will take place, what kind of businesses they want to get in there as it seems to support nothing other than what it has now at the moment, and that only barely. I just have difficulty seeing GSM as anything else. I do actually remember the Heart of Darkness years ago but I can not remember GSM back then or in fact what else was there, what was there pre GSM?Alexandra wrote:Sorry, I didn't understand that you meant no renewals. There are no guarantees that a lease will be renewed. Tenants who wish to secure their access normally do so in written, but that comes with higher deposits which I suspect the GSM business owner crowd can't afford.lordofmisrule wrote:I think you know what I mean, no renewals, you can be sarcastic because it's not your bar or livelyhood. Ah whatever, maybe they are mostly happy to go what do I know? The point is to replace with what? Can you see this being the next Aeon mall? No I thought not. Tous le Jour in the place of Swiss Food, Pizza World where Martinis pizza was and maybe a Zando where Sorja Beer Garden was because that has already gone.
You can't polish a turd!
I don't see the problem here. Rental agreements are being respected. It's not like the occasional outburst against land grabbing. If you ask for sympathy to someone who invested their livelihood into a temporary rental agreement then you won't get it, at least not from me.
Business owners know the terms when they sign contracts. It's part of the risk they take when they invest in a highly adaptable market such as Cambodia. One day it is, the next day it's not. It's part of the game they chose to play. Some are successful, others are not. There is no moral obligation for a landlord to let a business stick around to satisfy someone's dream about how things should be when there is a functional market which dictates how things will be.
As for Tous les Jours, yes I can imagine it opening up in the place of some skanky bar currently at GSM. The closest one is a stone throw away across the street from the Sorya Shopping Centre, which has also undergone heavy and expensive renovations in the past 6 or so months. It's not just GSM, the whole area around Central Market is changing.
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GSM is where PJ prison was. There's an article here: http://www.khmer440.com/k/2012/02/in-th ... ian-clink/
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Alexandra thanks for sharing this info and links, I didn't know about this. So even in the past this place was hell on earth
"Imagine a place so filthy, infested and decrepit that the Khmer Rouge didn’t want to use it as one of their torture chambers, so used it instead as a pigpen. That place was T3 prison, one of the first pieces of infrastructure built under the French protectorate."Alexandra wrote:GSM is where PJ prison was. There's an article here: http://www.khmer440.com/k/2012/02/in-th ... ian-clink/
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Seems like it managed to retain its character!
Actually there was respite for the area round about 2009, before slumping back into character.
I think I took this picture around Christmas of that year.
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T3 was a different prison, it was down on St 13 behind Wat Ounalom.Mèo Đen wrote:
"Imagine a place so filthy, infested and decrepit that the Khmer Rouge didn’t want to use it as one of their torture chambers, so used it instead as a pigpen. That place was T3 prison, one of the first pieces of infrastructure built under the French protectorate."
Seems like it managed to retain its character!
T3 on 154/13 :
The Police HQ gate on 154/51 where PJ was:
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
T3 was a different place indeed, but at least the author of the article describes former PJ (now GSM) as "even worse".
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Being one of the former sites for S21 is pretty much as bad as it gets.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
Yes I didn't read the article Alexandra referenced fully, I just took the first few lines and thought it fitted. It mentions PJ further down, I should have used that as my attempt at humour :Lucky Lucan wrote: T3 was a different prison, it was down on St 13 behind Wat Ounalom.
"Bad as T3 was, not far up the street, on the corner of 154 and Pasteur was an even worse place. Part of a larger police headquarters, this was PJ Prison, from the French Police Judiciaire. Built in 1937, it served briefly as the notorious S21, but in 1976 this moved to the more familiar Tuol Sleng location."