Would you take the wife or the girlfriend to a bar or pontoon ?
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Lots people have knickers in a twist about this.
Back home many bars would have cute bar staff and be men drooling thinking of what if. All night buying beer.
Hostess bars have cute and not so cute girls in them to keep men there drinking beer.
Personally find them a bit tedious but support the right for others to work or drink in them. We are in the 21st century after all and not some 12th century Isis caliphate. Drink and leer at pretty ladies..party on dudes and gals. Many girls choose the line of work over other options.
Back home many bars would have cute bar staff and be men drooling thinking of what if. All night buying beer.
Hostess bars have cute and not so cute girls in them to keep men there drinking beer.
Personally find them a bit tedious but support the right for others to work or drink in them. We are in the 21st century after all and not some 12th century Isis caliphate. Drink and leer at pretty ladies..party on dudes and gals. Many girls choose the line of work over other options.
Sorry this is a second attempt at this post, my first post got lostGMJS-440 wrote:No, you don’t hear of singers regularly leaving their gig in the middle and some dude paying the bar owner a set fee. Not to say it doesn’t happen but it isn’t a staple of the business like it is in the hostess/prostitution bars in Cambodia.Jep wrote:Does the punter pay a barfine to remove an entertainer from the bar?
No the customer usually asks a member of staff to contact the singer and ask if he will join him for a drink. At that point negotiations are made. In the past the singer would not disapear for the rest of the night but might go (very) short time. Singers used to be relatively expensive. The girls that did go more often were the "beer promotion girls"
Of course the main means of earning money is the amount of beers sold and this is the same as hostess bars. The girls bring in the customers, if they are bar fined this really detracts from their main purpose.
The problem is that certain NGO's conflate girls forced to work in brothels with those working in the higher echelons of the trade. They see the girls as victims that need rescuing and treat the other girls that are agents and doing well in the same light. The result is that their narrow perspective will destroy the opportunities many girls have because they want to remove the problem as they see it "prostitution" Ultimately they don't care about the girls they care about their perception of the problem. It's not much different from an ISIS perspective really, just a different demographic.Jamie_Lambo wrote:
i would understand his detest of the venues and their punters if we was talking about real brothels, where the girls are often forced/tricked/sold into prostitution, who are often there against their will having to service multiple johns per day, but to compare that to a hostess bar, is ridiculous
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But getting back to the main topic.
Youngwill100 has already said the girls working there are not white or grey, so are therefore black. Respectable Khmer girls don’t willingly socialize in these kinds of places. Wives and girlfriends tend to be respectable or trying to be respectable. They’ll only go if coerced or socially obligated to do so.
Maybe not the best venue to take a significant other.
At least not pay in suffering afterward.
Youngwill100 has already said the girls working there are not white or grey, so are therefore black. Respectable Khmer girls don’t willingly socialize in these kinds of places. Wives and girlfriends tend to be respectable or trying to be respectable. They’ll only go if coerced or socially obligated to do so.
Maybe not the best venue to take a significant other.
At least not pay in suffering afterward.
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Don't split hairs .... everyone knows the reason hostess bars exist . If I'm in the mood for an " empty " I'll head to a hostess bar or if I can stay awake I'll go to Pontoon because I know for a price the job will get done. Get real hostess bars are minute from being a brothel.Jamie_Lambo wrote:no, and you dont hear Hostess Bars offering in house sexual services in Cambodia either, so why is it a "prostitution bar/glorified brothel"??GMJS-440 wrote:No, you don’t hear of singers regularly leaving their gig in the middle and some dude paying the bar owner a set fee. Not to say it doesn’t happen but it isn’t a staple of the business like it is in the hostess/prostitution bars in Cambodia.Jep wrote:Does the punter pay a barfine to remove an entertainer from the bar?
I won't go to a brothel though, they're for desperate men that can't score in a classy hostess bar .
Go to hớt tóc and get your kat sot while they sot kat.
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I wouldn't want my wife to continue working in a girly bar ..... what if she found someone with more money, could be very tempting for them , sometimes love is irrelevant when there is a big family to support.violet wrote:violet wrote:I have a question that straddles this one and the debate about cashiers being different to girly bar bar girls.
Many (most? All?) western guys who marry a bar girl/ex bar girl wouldn’t want her to continue to work in a bar once married, or return to work in one. What about cashiers at girly bars? How would you feel about your wife continuing as a cashier there or returning to work as a cashier there? Yay or nay?
Having to explain that my wife is just the cashier would become tiresome too especially when so many are quick to judge and wrongly assume the cashier is also available for hire.
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Went once for a haircut left an hour later without the haircut.Alexandra wrote:Go to hớt tóc and get your kat sot while they sot kat.
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that post sums up more about you than it does a hostess bar muckerLucky Seven wrote:Don't split hairs .... everyone knows the reason hostess bars exist . If I'm in the mood for an " empty " I'll head to a hostess bar or if I can stay awake I'll go to Pontoon because I know for a price the job will get done. Get real hostess bars are minute from being a brothel.Jamie_Lambo wrote:no, and you dont hear Hostess Bars offering in house sexual services in Cambodia either, so why is it a "prostitution bar/glorified brothel"??GMJS-440 wrote:No, you don’t hear of singers regularly leaving their gig in the middle and some dude paying the bar owner a set fee. Not to say it doesn’t happen but it isn’t a staple of the business like it is in the hostess/prostitution bars in Cambodia.Jep wrote:Does the punter pay a barfine to remove an entertainer from the bar?
I won't go to a brothel though, they're for desperate men that can't score in a classy hostess bar .
keep going and 'scoring' in hostess bars champ
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Sorry, but I've seen this done in Cambodia - high flying local, one of Cambodia's top singers mid-set - basically told to down tools & head off with said high flyer & entourage for a private set instead. Different league, same, same. Look at the accusations of one of the Pussycat Doll members recently, this isn't just in Cambodia either.GMJS-440 wrote:No, you don’t hear of singers regularly leaving their gig in the middle and some dude paying the bar owner a set fee. Not to say it doesn’t happen but it isn’t a staple of the business like it is in the hostess/prostitution bars in Cambodia.Jep wrote:Does the punter pay a barfine to remove an entertainer from the bar?
I will give you the word "regularly" - for sure this is perhaps not happening every night like in the bar scene, but it does happen; and if Weinstein taught us anything this month, it isn't just in show business either; it is happening in companies around the world all the time. Let's face it, there are some serious assholes out there with varying levels of disposable cash for such activities, and an endless supply of downtrodden people (I don't say just women) ready to do whatever it takes to get another step up the ladder & out of the mud bath of their perceived poverty.
And yes to the OP question - have done both, but in context she'd come into the bar on occasion with her own gaggle of mates to retrieve me & all the other mates' husbands/boyfriends to then go to a club together. Safety in numbers & at least we got to pump out some AC/DC classics full pelt before being subjected to club music
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The very reason I made sure to include "regularly"
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This is what I've been trying to explain. There is no ONE reason guys go to hostess bars. Sure there are customers like Lucky Seven above who just have a 'genital itch' and want to find a girl instead of jerking themselves off, but there are a variety of other categories of customers.Lucky Seven wrote: Don't split hairs .... everyone knows the reason hostess bars exist . If I'm in the mood for an " empty " I'll head to a hostess bar or if I can stay awake I'll go to Pontoon because I know for a price the job will get done. Get real hostess bars are minute from being a brothel.
1) Coming in to drink and flirt with their favourite girl but with no intention of barfining her. The most common category. 30%
2) Coming in with the intention of drinking/flirting/groping some girls. A few decide to barfine one or more girls 25%
3) Purely looking for a girl for short/long time sex, like Lucky Seven (they may not find a girl they like, in which case they move on to another bar) 15%
4) Coming in with one or two friends to drink and chat but ignoring the girls 10%
5) Customer coming in with their khmer girlfriend/wife to drink 5%
6) Customer with a girl that he's barfined from another bar, on a bar-crawl 5%
7) Khmer girls (usually ex-bargirls who now get $500-1,000 a month from their barang boyfriend overseas) coming in to talk to the staff and buy them ladydrinks. Basically they are saying "look at me, haven't I done well" 3%
8) Big spender who comes in regularly and spends between $200-500. Usually doesn't barfine a girl 2%
9) Lurkers. Come in alone to sit and stare at the girls but not talk to them 2%
10) Coming in to watch premier league football or Formula One racing 1%
11) Western couples coming in to drink or to find a girl for a threesome 1%
12) Weirdos. They may be harmless, like the guy who comes in once a month with a book of English grammar under his arm, orders a bottle of water, dances by himself in the bar for two songs, then leaves. Or more dangerous, like the Korean guy who takes girls out dancing, drugs and rapes them and steals their phone and jewelry 1%
These figures are from my bars. Other bars will vary. The tourist bars in 136 and 104 have a higher proportion of type 2 and 3 customers.
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you keep on pretending you don't pay for it Jamie your post say about youJamie_Lambo wrote:that post sums up more about you than it does a hostess bar muckerLucky Seven wrote:Don't split hairs .... everyone knows the reason hostess bars exist . If I'm in the mood for an " empty " I'll head to a hostess bar or if I can stay awake I'll go to Pontoon because I know for a price the job will get done. Get real hostess bars are minute from being a brothel.Jamie_Lambo wrote:no, and you dont hear Hostess Bars offering in house sexual services in Cambodia either, so why is it a "prostitution bar/glorified brothel"??GMJS-440 wrote:No, you don’t hear of singers regularly leaving their gig in the middle and some dude paying the bar owner a set fee. Not to say it doesn’t happen but it isn’t a staple of the business like it is in the hostess/prostitution bars in Cambodia.Jep wrote:Does the punter pay a barfine to remove an entertainer from the bar?
I won't go to a brothel though, they're for desperate men that can't score in a classy hostess bar .
keep going and 'scoring' in hostess bars champ
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Don't take my quote literally. I've made a valid point . Had one girl from a hostess bar in five years and oddly it was the same girl you thought it was a good idea to post a photo of her on this site , identifying her and her " occupation " as one of the Angry Bird crew that you have taken and can confirm her breasts were real .... you think that's ok ?Jamie_Lambo wrote:that post sums up more about you than it does a hostess bar muckerLucky Seven wrote:Don't split hairs .... everyone knows the reason hostess bars exist . If I'm in the mood for an " empty " I'll head to a hostess bar or if I can stay awake I'll go to Pontoon because I know for a price the job will get done. Get real hostess bars are minute from being a brothel.Jamie_Lambo wrote:no, and you dont hear Hostess Bars offering in house sexual services in Cambodia either, so why is it a "prostitution bar/glorified brothel"??GMJS-440 wrote:No, you don’t hear of singers regularly leaving their gig in the middle and some dude paying the bar owner a set fee. Not to say it doesn’t happen but it isn’t a staple of the business like it is in the hostess/prostitution bars in Cambodia.Jep wrote:Does the punter pay a barfine to remove an entertainer from the bar?
I won't go to a brothel though, they're for desperate men that can't score in a classy hostess bar .
keep going and 'scoring' in hostess bars champ
Don't be a hypocrite . Casting aspersions is not a good idea , take a good look in the mirror. Your posting history brags about all the seedy joints you're well familiar with from the chicken farms to the dark side in Pattaya
I'm not bagging the bars or the girls one bit . I'm calling it for what it is and that's a place to score at a price .
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