Weak sauce. U got the answers you were looking for but Londo scared you off? U leaving without tip here too?florian wrote:Thanks for the answers, except Londo,
I no longer consider this a public forum, you go ahead and enjoy whatever you have going here.
I'll delete my account and look for a real forum.
Do you guys tip at mid range restaurants?
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Do you tip the waiting staff on planes? They offer good service to hundreds of passengers and are not highly paid.kansaicanuck wrote:If you are a barang then tip something. Even a dollar or 2000 riel or whatever is probably inconsequential to you but could mean something for them. For the most part when local staff are serving foreigners they would expect the tip as they can't tell if you are a tip heavy yank or a stingy whinging Brit. Rightly or wrongly for your home country customs it doesn't matter. Don't be a cheapskate, being a barang it's kind of expected here.
Thing about tipping is that for most patrons it's done as it is socially expected. In their own culture. It's not really an expression of thanks to the staff as most couldn't give a rat's ass about the staff. It's done so one doesn't get looked down on or.is thought of as a cheapskate by others. It's social conditioning and conforming to the perceived norms. Not about being a good guy.
It is easy to say that bar owners should pay their staff a living wage. The reality is if you raise the price of beer even a quarter in an attempt to accomplish this....you lose a great number of customers.....who will be shocked at the "greed" of the bar owner. In the hyper competitive bar market in Phnom Penh....there is no room to raise staff wages much above what your competition is paying. The low staff wages are in effect subsidizing your cheap beer. If a bar owner decided that he would pay all staff 500.00 per month and raised beer prices to 2.50-3.00 to achieve this (not sure if that would be enough)....he would be out of business.
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Or even better, guests could actually pay proper prices for their meals and hotel rooms.bipolar bear wrote:Or, even better, food outlets could pay their staff a living wage so they don't have to rely on tips, customers then wouldn't feel obliged to tip the exploited staff so they can earn a living wage knowing they are being fucked by the restaurant and they wouldn't have to wonder whether the establishment manager/owner was actually skimming the tips anyway.LoneStar wrote:Tip. Tip 10%. Why would you not? The staff serving you are working mainly for tips. What is the payoff for stiffing poor girls serving you?
And yes, I tip everywhere and no, I am not a Yank.
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Ditto.Hanno wrote: I tip everywhere and no, I am not a Yank.
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I always tip, even with a service charge included in the bill. This habit of mine changes only, if the service is very bad and unfriendly.
Yes, I tip. No, not a yank. Yes, I think tipping is a stupid practice. Agree about the difficulty of getting rid of it in competitive markets. It would have to be legislated away.
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What is that supposed to even mean? The way that is written it implies it is the customers' fault. It isn't. The business decides its business model and consequently sets the price for services. If there is anything "improper" about the price that causes the business to be unprofitable without forcing staff to be reliant on tips, it is the business that is the problem, not the customers or staff.Hanno wrote:Or even better, guests could actually pay proper prices for their meals and hotel rooms.bipolar bear wrote:Or, even better, food outlets could pay their staff a living wage so they don't have to rely on tips, customers then wouldn't feel obliged to tip the exploited staff so they can earn a living wage knowing they are being fucked by the restaurant and they wouldn't have to wonder whether the establishment manager/owner was actually skimming the tips anyway.LoneStar wrote:Tip. Tip 10%. Why would you not? The staff serving you are working mainly for tips. What is the payoff for stiffing poor girls serving you?
And yes, I tip everywhere and no, I am not a Yank.
Some people get off on giving it large, tipping everyone and everywhere. It's the gift that keeps on giving to the giver. Myself, I prefer my services are front-loaded with the charges I'm going to be expected to pay and to move through the world more discreetly rather than be tipping like a yank.
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I know some locals who are on minimum wage also tip themselves when they go out, its somewhat a give and take for them. I have traveled to quite a few countries and had never tipped except for Cambodia I dont know why it makes me feel guilty when I dont tip.
I think the best place to get good tips is Karaoke. The wealthy kaoroke goers tend to tip very generously.
I think the best place to get good tips is Karaoke. The wealthy kaoroke goers tend to tip very generously.
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"Tipping like a Yank" seems to be your only argument. Is that opposed to tight-arsed like a (insert nationality here)?bipolar bear wrote:What is that supposed to even mean? The way that is written it implies it is the customers' fault. It isn't. The business decides its business model and consequently sets the price for services. If there is anything "improper" about the price that causes the business to be unprofitable without forcing staff to be reliant on tips, it is the business that is the problem, not the customers or staff.Hanno wrote:Or even better, guests could actually pay proper prices for their meals and hotel rooms.bipolar bear wrote:Or, even better, food outlets could pay their staff a living wage so they don't have to rely on tips, customers then wouldn't feel obliged to tip the exploited staff so they can earn a living wage knowing they are being fucked by the restaurant and they wouldn't have to wonder whether the establishment manager/owner was actually skimming the tips anyway.LoneStar wrote:Tip. Tip 10%. Why would you not? The staff serving you are working mainly for tips. What is the payoff for stiffing poor girls serving you?
And yes, I tip everywhere and no, I am not a Yank.
Some people get off on giving it large, tipping everyone and everywhere. It's the gift that keeps on giving to the giver. Myself, I prefer my services are front-loaded with the charges I'm going to be expected to pay and to move through the world more discreetly rather than be tipping like a yank.
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People misunderstand why Americans always feel obliged to tip. Waiting staff in America only receive minimum wage (or less), while around them people can receive 10 times plus that amount for doing less work in a less pressurised environment. All Americans know this. When I worked as a waiter in Boston I was paid all of $2.01 (....) an hour - that just about paid for my work clothes, travel to and from work etc., and I lived off my tips.
Yeah people in McDonald's etc don't the minimum wage and don't get tips, but handing you a hamburger is considered a generic service. Service staff in restaurants etc. form a (albeit very short term) 'relationship' with the people they serve all night. Sounds sappy, but that's the way it is.
Yeah people in McDonald's etc don't the minimum wage and don't get tips, but handing you a hamburger is considered a generic service. Service staff in restaurants etc. form a (albeit very short term) 'relationship' with the people they serve all night. Sounds sappy, but that's the way it is.
Ah hell - "dont get more than the minimum wage...'.RBD wrote:People misunderstand why Americans always feel obliged to tip. Waiting staff in America only receive minimum wage (or less), while around them people can receive 10 times plus that amount for doing less work in a less pressurised environment. All Americans know this. When I worked as a waiter in Boston I was paid all of $2.01 (....) an hour - that just about paid for my work clothes, travel to and from work etc., and I lived off my tips.
Yeah people in McDonald's etc don't the minimum wage and don't get tips, but handing you a hamburger is considered a generic service. Service staff in restaurants etc. form a (albeit very short term) 'relationship' with the people they serve all night. Sounds sappy, but that's the way it is.
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