The house doesn't win, the house in poker provides services (staff, rules, place) and charges for that either in the form of rake or fixed payment - poker is no different to any other business and can operate at a loss. Just like any casino btwVisser wrote:In poker the players don't play against the house, the house wins regardless of who has the highest hand.Miguelito wrote:The Chicken's trolling aside, I've always wondered on what basis casinos can justify kicking people out for card counting. You don't get kicked out if you can predict probabilities in poker, so it seems unfair to the player that they can't use their skills to count cards.ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ wrote:Not at all.the chicken wrote:I was tempted to hit Nagaworld a few times but the thought of being homeless put me off. Played around in my head tried working out a winning strategy on table games, came to none. Making fake chips was the closest to a possibility taking money from casinos.
Card counting works in Blackjack if you have a good memory and know when to bet. I can do it & have done it successfully at home casino nights with mates.
It isn’t illegal but casinos will bar you if they suspect you are doing it. Which strikes me as extremely unfair. You need to be good to hide the fact that you are doing it.
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True, but worst case scenario you loose use of a room for the night + the cost of staff and some drinks.HsRob wrote:The house doesn't win, the house in poker provides services (staff, rules, place) and charges for that either in the form of rake or fixed payment - poker is no different to any other business and can operate at a loss. Just like any casino btwVisser wrote:In poker the players don't play against the house, the house wins regardless of who has the highest hand.Miguelito wrote:The Chicken's trolling aside, I've always wondered on what basis casinos can justify kicking people out for card counting. You don't get kicked out if you can predict probabilities in poker, so it seems unfair to the player that they can't use their skills to count cards.ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ wrote:Not at all.the chicken wrote:I was tempted to hit Nagaworld a few times but the thought of being homeless put me off. Played around in my head tried working out a winning strategy on table games, came to none. Making fake chips was the closest to a possibility taking money from casinos.
Card counting works in Blackjack if you have a good memory and know when to bet. I can do it & have done it successfully at home casino nights with mates.
It isn’t illegal but casinos will bar you if they suspect you are doing it. Which strikes me as extremely unfair. You need to be good to hide the fact that you are doing it.
Now compare that to someone counting cards and taking home 20K five days per week, one such customer could cost the casino five million each year.
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We don't break thumbs anymore. It's all very corporate these days. There's a lawyer in Las Vegas named Bob Nersesian who specializes in representing card counters. They all have him on speed dial. If you rough them up, they sue, and they can make more money suing casinos for getting roughed up by thuggish security officers than they do counting cards.Miguelito wrote: I'm sure GM has some stories of card counters getting kicked out of casinos. All I know is what I've seen on TV. Got anything good to share?
In Nevada, casinos can ban anyone for any non-discriminatory reason. You can ban a guy because he's too good at blackjack i.e. counting cards.
The "textbook" way to handle a card counter these days is that you just tap him on the shoulder and say "Sir, your blackjack play is too strong for us, you're welcome to play craps or roulette." That player isn't even banned from the casino, he's just "backed off" blackjack. I'm backed off blackjack myself at the casino across from my condo. Card counting isn't that hard, what's hard is doing it without the casino noticing. You have to increase your bets when the count is good and decrease the bets when the count is good, and any wide variation in betting amounts is a pretty telltale sign you're a card counter. So the real pros will sit there and grind it out and and not make obvious increases and decreases and play the long game and try to win small amounts over and over and multiple casinos.
In Missouri and New Jersey, you can't ban card counters. You can, however, adopt "countermeasures" at the table when you recognize that someone is counting cards, like shuffling the decks after every single hand. This is bad business though and is only done as a last resort, because it annoys everyone else at the table.
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I thought the whole idea was that it needed team work; the plebs do the counting and look like amateurs with their bets until such time it is clearly time for the "Big player" to join the table and clean up & then split the winnings over a nice cold glass of sparkling wee; Budweiser sorry.
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It’s also possible to guarantee a win on roulette.
Again - I’ve never been in a casino.
Put your money on red.
If you win, walk away.
If you lose, double your bet and keep on red.
If you win, walk away.
If you lose, double your bet and keep on red.
Repeat until you win.
You are guaranteed to win the value of your initial bet.
I don’t know if casinos will prevent you doing this. But the odds and the maths stack up.
Again - I’ve never been in a casino.
Put your money on red.
If you win, walk away.
If you lose, double your bet and keep on red.
If you win, walk away.
If you lose, double your bet and keep on red.
Repeat until you win.
You are guaranteed to win the value of your initial bet.
I don’t know if casinos will prevent you doing this. But the odds and the maths stack up.
I think if there was a guaranteed way to win at roulette - or any other game - casinos in their current form wouldn't exist.
Around 10 years ago I recall a broke guy telling me that he knew of a way to win every time at a casino.He got a bit angry when I asked him why he was broke.
Around 10 years ago I recall a broke guy telling me that he knew of a way to win every time at a casino.He got a bit angry when I asked him why he was broke.
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In theory you could, that's why most tables have limits.ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ wrote:It’s also possible to guarantee a win on roulette.
Again - I’ve never been in a casino.
Put your money on red.
If you win, walk away.
If you lose, double your bet and keep on red.
If you win, walk away.
If you lose, double your bet and keep on red.
Repeat until you win.
You are guaranteed to win the value of your initial bet.
I don’t know if casinos will prevent you doing this. But the odds and the maths stack up.
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ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ wrote:It’s also possible to guarantee a win on roulette.
Very poor system - tried this once on a $1 a pop automated spin roulette machine and soon escalated to a streak of 9 black or zero turning up; double your bet on that ...$1, $2, $4, $8, $16, $32, $64, $128, $246. The woman next to me looked a bit nervous as I went all in on the final round, luckily it came up trumps, just as the wife - who'd lost all her money ($50) on Baccarat turned up to see what I was up to. Great days before the dark times, before the Naga empire. Free food & beer & generally we'd spend $100 tops in a couple of hours, generally walking out with $80 or $120! - the type of people casinos must hate
And to put my puny bad streak in perspective ... The longest recorded streak of one color in roulette in American casino history happened in 1943 when the color red won 32 consecutive times. In a row. The people convinced black had to hit next were absolutely right. Eventually. (By your 'double or nothing' approach that final spin you'd be putting in about $2bn if my maths is any good!
I now have a much better system whenever I play (not in years), that allows me to play fairly conservatively for a couple of hours and not blow a stack - certainly recreational, generally losing, and definitely not a get rich fast scheme!
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I didn’t say that I’d recommend it. Just that it’s possible and guarantees if
1. No table limit
2. Your pockets are deep enough
3. Your nerve is strong enough
There is a reason why I don’t go to casinos.
1. No table limit
2. Your pockets are deep enough
3. Your nerve is strong enough
There is a reason why I don’t go to casinos.
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I hope you bet $256 and not $246...Spigzy wrote: Very poor system - tried this once on a $1 a pop automated spin roulette machine and soon escalated to a streak of 9 black or zero turning up; double your bet on that ...$1, $2, $4, $8, $16, $32, $64, $128, $246. The woman next to me looked a bit nervous as I went all in on the final round, luckily it came up trumps, just as the wife - who'd lost all her money ($50) on
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Pockets deep enough? $2bn is quite a lot of dough!
Pockets deep enough? $2bn is quite a lot of dough!
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Reminds me of the stock market - able to stay irrational for longer than you can stay solvent.Spigzy wrote:
Very poor system - tried this once on a $1 a pop automated spin roulette machine and soon escalated to a streak of 9 black or zero turning up; double your bet on that ...$1, $2, $4, $8, $16, $32, $64, $128, $246. The woman next to me looked a bit nervous as I went all in on the final round, luckily it came up trumps, just as the wife - who'd lost all her money ($50) on Baccarat turned up to see what I was up to. Great days before the dark times, before the Naga empire. Free food & beer & generally we'd spend $100 tops in a couple of hours, generally walking out with $80 or $120! - the type of people casinos must hate
And to put my puny bad streak in perspective ... The longest recorded streak of one color in roulette in American casino history happened in 1943 when the color red won 32 consecutive times. In a row. The people convinced black had to hit next were absolutely right. Eventually. (By your 'double or nothing' approach that final spin you'd be putting in about $2bn if my maths is any good!
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