32 US embassy staff fired for underage porn

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Re: 32 US embassy staff fired for underage porn

Postby violet » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:40 pm

batshitcrazyweirdo wrote:I have one question now. Especially for Violet. Is that pedophilia? Careful how you answer that!

I'm happy with the definitions available on the internet. Is your question to me due to my requesting you stop calling dudes in position paedoohiles in Jep's thread? As far as I know, none of those people you named were involved in this activity, therefore my position is it is out of order to be associating them in writing on the internet with this activity. Name away if it is to do with how they handled the situation after finding out about it, if it is, in fact, the responsibility of any of them to deal with it, beyond ensuring the correct people are alerted.
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Re: 32 US embassy staff fired for underage porn

Postby batshitcrazyweirdo » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:43 pm

violet wrote:
batshitcrazyweirdo wrote:I have one question now. Especially for Violet. Is that pedophilia? Careful how you answer that!

I'm happy with the definitions available on the internet. Is your question to me due to my requesting you stop calling dudes in position paedoohiles in Jep's thread? As far as I know, none of those people you named were involved in this activity, therefore my position is it is out of order to be associating them in writing on the internet with this activity. Name away if it is to do with how they handled the situation after finding out about it, if it is, in fact, the responsibility of any of them to deal with it, beyond ensuring the correct people are alerted.


Did you just say sorry????

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Re: 32 US embassy staff fired for underage porn

Postby violet » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:43 pm

gavinmac wrote:What's the gist of this protest? Are they saying "We weren't sharing kiddie porn" or "Sharing kiddie porn shouldn't be a fireable offense"?


I believe the gist of it is
You can't accuse me of something if you learned of it by looking at my phone without my permission or warrant
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Re: 32 US embassy staff fired for underage porn

Postby gavinmac » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:47 pm

violet wrote:
gavinmac wrote:What's the gist of this protest? Are they saying "We weren't sharing kiddie porn" or "Sharing kiddie porn shouldn't be a fireable offense"?


I believe the gist of it is
You can't accuse me of something if you learned of it by looking at my phone without my permission or warrant


Were the phones provided by the embassy?
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Re: 32 US embassy staff fired for underage porn

Postby violet » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:49 pm

gavinmac wrote:
violet wrote:
gavinmac wrote:What's the gist of this protest? Are they saying "We weren't sharing kiddie porn" or "Sharing kiddie porn shouldn't be a fireable offense"?


I believe the gist of it is
You can't accuse me of something if you learned of it by looking at my phone without my permission or warrant


Were the phones provided by the embassy?


Good question. An associated question is, were they used for work purposes at all....in which case, their contracts likely say they can, and will, be subject to checks for inappropriate use as outlined in their terms of employment
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Re: 32 US embassy staff fired for underage porn

Postby Miguelito » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:13 pm

I've deleted a few posts and banned BSCW for a few days for posting nonsense in this thread.
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Re: 32 US embassy staff fired for underage porn

Postby Miguelito » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:23 pm

gavinmac wrote:
violet wrote:
gavinmac wrote:What's the gist of this protest? Are they saying "We weren't sharing kiddie porn" or "Sharing kiddie porn shouldn't be a fireable offense"?


I believe the gist of it is
You can't accuse me of something if you learned of it by looking at my phone without my permission or warrant


Were the phones provided by the embassy?


The quote in the Post states:

Legal expert Sok Sam Oeun said that generally, any institution that wanted to inspect the personal phones or Facebook accounts of employees must obtain a court order to do so.

“Employees can refuse to comply with such requests if they are not served with a court order. If the mobile phones were taken from the employees, then their employer has violated their personal rights. This is illegal and the employees can file a lawsuit against the embassy,” he said.


I don't think it's general practice for companies here to provide phones, but many companies provide SIM cards, or provide an allowance for SIMs. I am not sure what the U.S. Embassy provides to their security guards.
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Re: 32 US embassy staff fired for underage porn

Postby Jep » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:41 pm

Miguelito wrote:. I am not sure what the U.S. Embassy provides to their security guards.


Phones,Walkie Talkies, handcuffs, pepper spray, a glock and some anti batshit nerve agent stuff.,sorry, couldn't resist it.
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Re: 32 US embassy staff fired for underage porn

Postby cyclingqueen » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:50 pm

the phones were not owned by the employees
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Re: 32 US embassy staff fired for underage porn

Postby violet » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:03 pm

cyclingqueen wrote:the phones were not owned by the employees


Sounds like the Embassy had every right to do what they did. Instant dismissal for that type of thing is not unheard of either.
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Re: 32 US embassy staff fired for underage porn

Postby violet » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:04 pm

I would be interested to know if it was one instance, with potentially passive recipients getting caught up in it, or if it was repeated behaviour
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Re: 32 US embassy staff fired for underage porn

Postby Jep » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:05 pm

violet wrote:
cyclingqueen wrote:the phones were not owned by the employees


Sounds like the Embassy had every right to do what they did.

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Re: 32 US embassy staff fired for underage porn

Postby Alexandra » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:14 pm

violet wrote:Sounds like the Embassy had every right to do what they did.


I don't understand why this is surprising to anyone. It's incredibly difficult to side with somebody that's been fired for using embassy equipment to stare at nude kids for shits and giggles, or worse, pleasure.

Fuck those people, fuck their demonstration and fucking good luck suing the Embassy of Suing.
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Re: 32 US embassy staff fired for underage porn

Postby violet » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:48 pm

Alexandra wrote:
violet wrote:Sounds like the Embassy had every right to do what they did.


I don't understand why this is surprising to anyone. It's incredibly difficult to side with somebody that's been fired for using embassy equipment to stare at nude kids for shits and giggles, or worse, pleasure.

Fuck those people, fuck their demonstration and fucking good luck suing the Embassy of Suing.


Agreed and apologies if it seemed like I needed to know if the Embassy had the right.
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Re: 32 US embassy staff fired for underage porn

Postby over the rainbow » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:58 pm

violet wrote:I would be interested to know if it was one instance, with potentially passive recipients getting caught up in it, or if it was repeated behaviour


as the US embassy is considered American soil;
cant they do whatever they want to?
i'd be curious if its in their contracts that they and anything they bring to work, can be searched?
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