buying cambodian nationality with name change

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Re: buying cambodian nationality with name change

Postby element_6 » Wed May 23, 2018 3:16 pm

It was possible to change your name when acquiring citizenship before, but as pointed out by another poster it turns out to be a PITA if you dont have a real reason to do it.

I have recently been told by two different but very well connected people who were able to do it before that it is impossible to do buy citizenship via the backdoor now. Things may change again after the election but who knows
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Re: buying cambodian nationality with name change

Postby Miguelito » Wed May 23, 2018 7:34 pm

element_6 wrote:I have recently been told by two different but very well connected people who were able to do it before that it is impossible to do buy citizenship via the backdoor now. Things may change again after the election but who knows


But you can still buy citizenship through the front door?
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Re: buying cambodian nationality with name change

Postby element_6 » Sat May 26, 2018 12:51 pm

I believe via the front door is still an option but is much more expensive and you have to satisfy the language requirements (unless you go via the charitable donation route). However I believe the originally referred to statement by HE looks like there may be reforms to these laws
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Re: buying cambodian nationality with name change

Postby jackrossi » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:49 pm

If anyone has any more news I will be glad to hear it.
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Re: buying cambodian nationality with name change

Postby Bong Burgundy » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:22 am

Any foreigner who owns and uses a Khmer national identity card or passport of the Kingdom of Cambodia without correct procedure shall be punished by imprisonment for five to ten years, according to Article 30 of the Draft Citizenship Law,
Article 31 states that any person who falsifies national identity cards or passports of the Kingdom of Cambodia shall be punished by imprisonment for five to ten years. It is also considered to be a fraudulent act of deleting, adding or damaging the information contained in Cambodian identity card or Passport of the Kingdom of Cambodia.
Article 32 states that anyone who falsely uses Khmer nationality identification card or passport of the Kingdom of Cambodia shall be subject to imprisonment of two to five years and a fine Around four million to ten million riel.
Article 33 states that the initiator of the complainant is liable for the offenses as stated in articles 30, 31, and 32 of this law, in accordance with the conditions as stated in Criminal Code.
Article 34 states that for individuals who commit offenses as stated in articles 30, 31 and 32 of this law, the court may pronounce one or more additional sentences as stated In Article 54 (Penalty Type) of the Penal Code.
Article 35 states that a legal entity may be declared liable to a criminal offense under the conditions laid down in Article 42 (Criminal Code of a Legal Entity) of the Penal Code of Offenses as stated in articles 30, 31 and 32 of this law. Legal entities shall be fined from ten million Riels to one hundred million Riels as well as one or more additional punishments as stated in Article 168 (additional sentences Applicable to legal entities) of the Penal Code.
Article 35 states that a legal entity may be declared liable to a criminal offense under the conditions laid down in Article 42 (Criminal Code of a Legal Entity) of the Penal Code of Offenses as stated in articles 30, 31 and 32 of this law. Legal entities shall be fined from ten million Riels to one hundred million Riels as well as one or more additional punishments as stated in Article 168 (additional sentences Applicable to legal entities) of the Penal Code. Article 35 states that a legal entity may be declared liable to a criminal offense under the conditions laid down in Article 42 (Criminal Code of a Legal Entity) of the Penal Code of Offenses as stated in articles 30, 31 and 32 of this law. Legal entities shall be fined from ten million Riels to one hundred million Riels as well as one or more additional punishments as stated in Article 168 (additional sentences Applicable to legal entities) of the Penal Code.
Please note that the National Assembly approves the Draft Nationality Law by enacting 112 votes. The draft law is 10 chapters and divided into 38 articles. The decision was made at the National Assembly on May 31, 2018, with 112 members.
The Draft Citizenship Law was approved by the Cabinet in the cabinet meeting on May 11, 2018. The purpose of determining the Khmer nationality is five categories:
1. Recognition of Khmer nationality from birth.
2. Obtaining Cambodian nationality by full adoption.
3, obtaining Cambodian nationality by marriage.
4. The nationalization of Cambodian nationalism, and the loss of Khmer nationality.
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Re: buying cambodian nationality with name change

Postby logos » Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:25 pm

The purpose of determining the Khmer nationality is five categories:
1. Recognition of Khmer nationality from birth.
2. Obtaining Cambodian nationality by full adoption.
3, obtaining Cambodian nationality by marriage.
4. The nationalization of Cambodian nationalism, and the loss of Khmer nationality.

Makes perfect sense
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Re: buying cambodian nationality with name change

Postby ricecakes » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:15 pm

Ok great.....#3 ....where do we all apply ?

and ...# 4 that is just fucktardery at its fuckardest
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Re: buying cambodian nationality with name change

Postby jackrossi » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:31 pm

Still open to offers
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Re: buying cambodian nationality with name change

Postby PSD_Kiwi » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:58 pm

ricecakes wrote:Ok great.....#3 ....where do we all apply ?


You apply at the General Department of Identification in Chbar Ampouv.

They'll give you the application form and list of required documents. There is no language or history test if applying via marriage.


Together with two copies of the application form you will need the following documents (one original, one copy):
1. Residence certificate (Sangkat)
2. Attitude certificate (Sangkat) (no idea what this is?
3. Spouses agreement letter (Sangkat + signed by two witnesses) (basically a star Dec saying your spouse supports your application)
4. Health certificate
5. Birth certificate (English)
6. Criminal background check (both from Ministry of Justice and your country)
7. Marriage certificate
8. Job certificate (Work Permit?)
9. Copy of passport & current Visa EOS
10. 10 x passport photos
11. Any other supporting documentation (kids birth cert etc)

You have to submit your docs at the General Dept of Identification, use the entrance on the right (Nationality), go up to the second floor, turn right, turn left, it´s the second office at your right then). Don´t forget to dress appropriately, long trousers, collared shirt, shoes, otherwise the guard at the gate won´t let you in.
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Re: buying cambodian nationality with name change

Postby pedros » Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:36 pm

1. Residence certificate (Sangkat) - have
2. Attitude certificate (Sangkat) (no idea what this is?) - Guess this would be a recommendation from a bong thom, can get
3. Spouses agreement letter (Sangkat + signed by two witnesses) (basically a star Dec saying your spouse supports your application)- easy
4. Health certificate - hahaha, can
5. Birth certificate (English)- have
6. Criminal background check (both from Ministry of Justice and your country)- a) have b) can probably with a bit of effort
7. Marriage certificate- have
8. Job certificate (Work Permit?) - have
9. Copy of passport & current Visa EOS - have
10. 10 x passport photos - have
11. Any other supporting documentation (kids birth cert etc) - have kids
Sounds way to easy, what's the catch?
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Re: buying cambodian nationality with name change

Postby pedros » Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:57 pm

On another note, I was told that to renew my visa my:

work permit
marriage certifcate
residence bookich i
49.9% land deeds hard title
kids birth certifiate
ministry stamped 'this is a good dude' doc
tax payment records from 2016-18
work contract

actually mean jack shit. All I needed was a self typed letter stating I was working and of good moral fibre (which I am, even though I wrote the letter and stamped it myself.
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Re: buying cambodian nationality with name change

Postby batshitcrazyweirdo » Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:07 pm

pedros wrote:On another note, I was told that to renew my visa my:

work permit
marriage certifcate
residence bookich i
49.9% land deeds hard title
kids birth certifiate
ministry stamped 'this is a good dude' doc
tax payment records from 2016-18
work contract

actually mean jack shit. All I needed was a self typed letter stating I was working and of good moral fibre (which I am, even though I wrote the letter and stamped it myself.


Exactly! :lol:
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Re: buying cambodian nationality with name change

Postby Miguelito » Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:16 am

pedros wrote:1. Residence certificate (Sangkat) - have
2. Attitude certificate (Sangkat) (no idea what this is?) - Guess this would be a recommendation from a bong thom, can get
3. Spouses agreement letter (Sangkat + signed by two witnesses) (basically a star Dec saying your spouse supports your application)- easy
4. Health certificate - hahaha, can
5. Birth certificate (English)- have
6. Criminal background check (both from Ministry of Justice and your country)- a) have b) can probably with a bit of effort
7. Marriage certificate- have
8. Job certificate (Work Permit?) - have
9. Copy of passport & current Visa EOS - have
10. 10 x passport photos - have
11. Any other supporting documentation (kids birth cert etc) - have kids

Sounds way to easy, what's the catch?


Yea, sounds real easy. Has no one done this before?
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Re: buying cambodian nationality with name change

Postby the chicken » Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:16 pm

There are ways you can do it. I had a chat some friends in the government circle about jackrossi's inquiry not long ago, they try to steer of that shit in regard to name changing in the risk of associating with terrorism and fugitive crimes -- you can be punished by international law. I am not joking.
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Re: buying cambodian nationality with name change

Postby Miguelito » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:04 pm

Looks like the new law has passed the Senate.

The below article from the Post is confusing - are people upset that it makes it too easy, or too hard? The article goes back and forth on that issue.

on Monday approved a controversial set of laws on citizenship, claiming the draft would improve the process by which foreigners applied for Cambodian citizenship. However, watchdogs and social media users criticised the move, saying it would make gaining citizenship too easy.

Senate spokesman Mam Bun Neang told The Post on Monday that the draft on citizenship was unanimously passed. He said the Senate’s permanent committee discussed details of the draft and believe the current framework restricts foreigners who already reside in the country and wish to become citizens.

“They [new citizens] will have to meet all criteria. They have to enter legally. Their children will be legal citizens, if they live here legally. If living illegally, their children are born illegally too,” he said.

Bun Neang stressed that the investment requirement was also raised from at least 1.25 billion riel (about $312,000) in a government-approved project, to nearly $1 million.

“We will tighten the limitation to help the government and help our nation . . . It’s not like what others say, that the draft law is to allow citizens of neighbouring countries to live here legally,” he said.

CPP spokesman Sok Eysan denied the accusations from Facebook users and observers, saying their assumptions contradict the truth.

“It is the culture of the opposition to always say something opposite to the truth. In fact, the 1996 citizenship law is more than 22 years old and does not fit current realities. So it is necessary to enact a new law to replace the old,” he said.

Preap Kol, executive director of Transparency International Cambodia, wrote on his Facebook page on Friday that the draft law should determine the amount of money that is proportional to the current market price, and that foreigners who apply for Cambodian citizenship should not be able to hold multiple passports.

“If it was already exchanging money for nationality, it should be a reasonable price . . . Cambodian citizenship should be at least three times higher than in 1996,” Kol wrote. “If the price is too low, foreigners, especially the Chinese and Vietnamese, will be completely happy.”

San Chey, the executive director of the Affiliated Network for Social Accountability, said he believes the law favours foreigners, allowing easy access to Cambodian rights.

“We have concerns, especially toward foreigners . . . Vietnamese who now live in Cambodia. We are worried when this law is implemented,” he said.

Bun Neang said the draft law will be submitted to the Constitutional Council on Wednesday or Thursday for approval. If approved, it will be submitted to the King for his royal ascent.
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