Dismay is Kampot - survival guide
Believe it or not, I moved to Kampot for a quieter life. More drama than a fecking ladyboy show's dressing room.
Ok, first of all, not an admin/mod on the Noticeboard (under any name). In fact, am down to 2 groups, 1 of which I am leaving in 2 months, and the other has a dedicated team of minions doing all the work.
This was meant to be a bit of fun, an excuse to write some witty shit (I can, you know) and try and bring the mag into the 21st century (Tombraider nailed it)
I have just posted this in the Noticeboard and turned off commenting in the hope it escapes the wrath of the censors:
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This post is in response to the one made by Steve Jackson last night.
It will not contain any personal attacks as, believe it or not, our entire team of 5 had a lot of respect for Steve (and indeed Irvin and others) who started and sustained a small magazine over 10 years. When you see how many magazines fail within a year, that is no small accomplishment.
I will also turn off commenting as I don’t want a war of words or opinions. The post last night was a litany of half-truths and obfuscation, and it is only right that the actual facts are brought into the light.
Rather than me being my usual long-winded self, I will just make a series of bullet points.
1. Steve announced that KSG was ending production and made a post on the board.
2. Several people expressed interest in keeping it going and a conversation began with Steve.
3. At no point in those conversations did Steve advise that this would be a ‘caretaker’ post.
4. I chatted with Steve almost every day as the team made plans and he was happy with all the ideas.
5. We had taken over the ad sales email and also the Facebook page though of course Steve remained an admin.
6. The issues only began when I sent a mockup of the new cover to Steve (as was keeping him in the development loop). He hated it, and thought it looked like we were turning the mag into a professional looking magazine. I can understand him not liking a style change, but I told him that the content would be pretty much similar and that surely it made sense to judge on what was inside, not what the outside looked like.
7. After this conversation (at 8.10am our time, so 2.10am back in UK) Steve decided to go into the shared google drive and delete 360 files, including all the graphics from advertisers.
8. And here I hold my hands up as to the only thing that was maybe done ‘wrongly’. When I saw he had deleted all the files we needed for ads, I removed him as admin from the FB group. It was a kneejerk reaction as I was scared there would be more sabotage. I also changed the password on the ad sales account for the same reason.
9. Steve later regained access to the email as he had set it up, but to be fair, he did send the new password a few days later, though in that time we had set up a new one and had had to email all the advertisers asking for graphics.
10. In a calm period, Steve asked us to change the name. We did – slightly – and he was happy with that.
11. Because I hadn’t seen an email from him earlier yesterday, he decided to make his post last night.
There was fault on both sides, mainly due to poor communication in the later stages and to misunderstandings by Steve. Removing him as admin from the FB group was only meant to be a temporary measure. With only a short time to the next issue being due, all 5 members of the team were working hard – in tandem with having their own work to do – to get the issue completed on time.
There were no major changes to what the magazine would be. We had asked for submissions, spoken to a few people, and had some interesting articles put together. It was going to retain a balance of informative with some irreverent wit. I had also promised – from day 1 – to follow Steve’s rule of ‘no profanity, no politics, and no personal attacks.’
I think we have some great material. Yes, it did look more polished than the old one, but our graphic designer is a professional, whereas Steve was an enthusiastic amateur who did a damned good job on that basis.
If needed, someone can be appointed from the ‘naysayers’ side, and they can see the entire conversation history between myself and Steve which backs up everything in this post.
The team want to continue, albeit under an entirely new name. And Steve has also suggested the same. However, before we move forward in any way, the air has to be cleared of some of last night’s nonsense.
Cheers
Eoin/Iain
Ok, first of all, not an admin/mod on the Noticeboard (under any name). In fact, am down to 2 groups, 1 of which I am leaving in 2 months, and the other has a dedicated team of minions doing all the work.
This was meant to be a bit of fun, an excuse to write some witty shit (I can, you know) and try and bring the mag into the 21st century (Tombraider nailed it)
I have just posted this in the Noticeboard and turned off commenting in the hope it escapes the wrath of the censors:
.....................................................................................................................
This post is in response to the one made by Steve Jackson last night.
It will not contain any personal attacks as, believe it or not, our entire team of 5 had a lot of respect for Steve (and indeed Irvin and others) who started and sustained a small magazine over 10 years. When you see how many magazines fail within a year, that is no small accomplishment.
I will also turn off commenting as I don’t want a war of words or opinions. The post last night was a litany of half-truths and obfuscation, and it is only right that the actual facts are brought into the light.
Rather than me being my usual long-winded self, I will just make a series of bullet points.
1. Steve announced that KSG was ending production and made a post on the board.
2. Several people expressed interest in keeping it going and a conversation began with Steve.
3. At no point in those conversations did Steve advise that this would be a ‘caretaker’ post.
4. I chatted with Steve almost every day as the team made plans and he was happy with all the ideas.
5. We had taken over the ad sales email and also the Facebook page though of course Steve remained an admin.
6. The issues only began when I sent a mockup of the new cover to Steve (as was keeping him in the development loop). He hated it, and thought it looked like we were turning the mag into a professional looking magazine. I can understand him not liking a style change, but I told him that the content would be pretty much similar and that surely it made sense to judge on what was inside, not what the outside looked like.
7. After this conversation (at 8.10am our time, so 2.10am back in UK) Steve decided to go into the shared google drive and delete 360 files, including all the graphics from advertisers.
8. And here I hold my hands up as to the only thing that was maybe done ‘wrongly’. When I saw he had deleted all the files we needed for ads, I removed him as admin from the FB group. It was a kneejerk reaction as I was scared there would be more sabotage. I also changed the password on the ad sales account for the same reason.
9. Steve later regained access to the email as he had set it up, but to be fair, he did send the new password a few days later, though in that time we had set up a new one and had had to email all the advertisers asking for graphics.
10. In a calm period, Steve asked us to change the name. We did – slightly – and he was happy with that.
11. Because I hadn’t seen an email from him earlier yesterday, he decided to make his post last night.
There was fault on both sides, mainly due to poor communication in the later stages and to misunderstandings by Steve. Removing him as admin from the FB group was only meant to be a temporary measure. With only a short time to the next issue being due, all 5 members of the team were working hard – in tandem with having their own work to do – to get the issue completed on time.
There were no major changes to what the magazine would be. We had asked for submissions, spoken to a few people, and had some interesting articles put together. It was going to retain a balance of informative with some irreverent wit. I had also promised – from day 1 – to follow Steve’s rule of ‘no profanity, no politics, and no personal attacks.’
I think we have some great material. Yes, it did look more polished than the old one, but our graphic designer is a professional, whereas Steve was an enthusiastic amateur who did a damned good job on that basis.
If needed, someone can be appointed from the ‘naysayers’ side, and they can see the entire conversation history between myself and Steve which backs up everything in this post.
The team want to continue, albeit under an entirely new name. And Steve has also suggested the same. However, before we move forward in any way, the air has to be cleared of some of last night’s nonsense.
Cheers
Eoin/Iain
“The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent.”
Thanks Ean/Ian now please change your profile pics to
cant you do Migs a favour and tell everyone who wants to whinge about your post to come to this thread
cant you do Migs a favour and tell everyone who wants to whinge about your post to come to this thread
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OMG! this is f$%ng funny. I being 'that Julien from Tasmania' and name checked all through this stoopid Surivor Guide melt down... laughed and almost drank my prawn dumpling soup backwards through my nose when I read this blather... the pictures are funny too... bang on!
But I must point out - I'm not sure why I'm being mentioned in the KSG melt down. Unfortunately I have encountered all the aggrieved parties here - Steve KSG, Jem Couch Potato Pumford, Iain of many alias's Donnelly and perhaps a few of the anonymous trollers... I'm not much of a fan of the people involved in this latest bunfight and have seen how a few have maintained grudges ever since I decided not to hire one for his a/v equipment and to book the other as a presenter at Kampot Readers & Writers Festival. Something didn't feel right at the time and believe me, I've felt the wrath ever since - mostly via Kampot Notice Board - but made the right decision not to work with these people. I can see how Steve who apparently runs the KSG can also easily get his nose outta joint - especially over his so called 'mate' 'rescuing' and then allegedly stealing his guide book ...but hey... the KSG is a great little rag with a good does of humor running through it... it's just a shame the individuals involved can't maintain the same sense of humor when it comes to real life and relax a bit.
Anyway, thanks for the mentions. It's totally bonkers and very Kampot.... if it's not stolen cafes then it's stolen guide books... I'm new to posting on K440 or any other blog for that matter but I have enjoyed the mad stories over the years... not least the bent Victorian copper who had the punch up with the zealot orphanage Nun and went to greater heights of fame by (apparently) taking the Khmer440 crew hostage at the garage bar.... I mean... just when you think that the stories can't get any more unbelievable...they do.
Anyway, best of luck for the Kampot Survival Guide, it's under no threat of ever being boring! and that's a good thing.
Julien
p.s. is the Jeremy Kyle show really going to Kampot?
But I must point out - I'm not sure why I'm being mentioned in the KSG melt down. Unfortunately I have encountered all the aggrieved parties here - Steve KSG, Jem Couch Potato Pumford, Iain of many alias's Donnelly and perhaps a few of the anonymous trollers... I'm not much of a fan of the people involved in this latest bunfight and have seen how a few have maintained grudges ever since I decided not to hire one for his a/v equipment and to book the other as a presenter at Kampot Readers & Writers Festival. Something didn't feel right at the time and believe me, I've felt the wrath ever since - mostly via Kampot Notice Board - but made the right decision not to work with these people. I can see how Steve who apparently runs the KSG can also easily get his nose outta joint - especially over his so called 'mate' 'rescuing' and then allegedly stealing his guide book ...but hey... the KSG is a great little rag with a good does of humor running through it... it's just a shame the individuals involved can't maintain the same sense of humor when it comes to real life and relax a bit.
Anyway, thanks for the mentions. It's totally bonkers and very Kampot.... if it's not stolen cafes then it's stolen guide books... I'm new to posting on K440 or any other blog for that matter but I have enjoyed the mad stories over the years... not least the bent Victorian copper who had the punch up with the zealot orphanage Nun and went to greater heights of fame by (apparently) taking the Khmer440 crew hostage at the garage bar.... I mean... just when you think that the stories can't get any more unbelievable...they do.
Anyway, best of luck for the Kampot Survival Guide, it's under no threat of ever being boring! and that's a good thing.
Julien
p.s. is the Jeremy Kyle show really going to Kampot?
CUMTHERAWPRAWN wrote:OMG! this is f$%ng funny. I being 'that Julien from Tasmania' and name checked all through this stoopid Surivor Guide melt down... laughed and almost drank my prawn dumpling soup backwards through my nose when I read this blather... the pictures are funny too... bang on!
But I must point out - I'm not sure why I'm being mentioned in the KSG melt down. Unfortunately I have encountered all the aggrieved parties here - Steve KSG, Jem Couch Potato Pumford, Iain of many alias's Donnelly and perhaps a few of the anonymous trollers... I'm not much of a fan of the people involved in this latest bunfight and have seen how a few have maintained grudges ever since I decided not to hire one for his a/v equipment and to book the other as a presenter at Kampot Readers & Writers Festival. Something didn't feel right at the time and believe me, I've felt the wrath ever since - mostly via Kampot Notice Board - but made the right decision not to work with these people. I can see how Steve who apparently runs the KSG can also easily get his nose outta joint - especially over his so called 'mate' 'rescuing' and then allegedly stealing his guide book ...but hey... the KSG is a great little rag with a good does of humor running through it... it's just a shame the individuals involved can't maintain the same sense of humor when it comes to real life and relax a bit.
Anyway, thanks for the mentions. It's totally bonkers and very Kampot.... if it's not stolen cafes then it's stolen guide books... I'm new to posting on K440 or any other blog for that matter but I have enjoyed the mad stories over the years... not least the bent Victorian copper who had the punch up with the zealot orphanage Nun and went to greater heights of fame by (apparently) taking the Khmer440 crew hostage at the garage bar.... I mean... just when you think that the stories can't get any more unbelievable...they do.
Anyway, best of luck for the Kampot Survival Guide, it's under no threat of ever being boring! and that's a good thing.
Julien
p.s. is the Jeremy Kyle show really going to Kampot?
Yet not mentioned once by me anywhere since this alleged grudge I have exists only in your own imagination.
“The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent.”
weirdly, that just happened. But my post was deleted from the noticeboard. Too controversialsimon44 wrote:Probably the most exciting thing to happen since someone burnt their toast.....
“The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent.”
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Many years ago, when dawn showed its rose-red fingers and golden-curled locks, I was told the guide was written by a Welshman.
I still agree that anyone who rides a dirtbike in Cambodia is gay.
It's a local forum for local people. We don't want any trouble here!
I still agree that anyone who rides a dirtbike in Cambodia is gay.
It's a local forum for local people. We don't want any trouble here!
Good ole NT locals going about their everyday lives!
pew, pew, pew, pew!
Thanks for the mention Julian Poulson..
Firstly you have never offered to hire any of my equipment - you just wanted it for free.. yet after supporting you I too learnt the hard way how egotistic you are and how you manipulate others purely for your own gain and thus would never work with you again.
Secondly, any person who threatens an orphanage and their founder with legal action for what someone else said is PURE SCUM. If you have any legal case take me to court and sue me.. Here's the email from the founder confirming your threatening action against her and the kids..
catherine (Email address removed)
Jan 12
to Saraswati, me, Uon, Hayley, Sokny, Kim, sothy
Dear all,
I don’t have much time, as I have to catch a train.
Julien threatened xxx with the police and me personally with the British police, as a direct result of Jem’s Facebook post.
For xxx the way to stand up to Julien is to be honest, dignified and hard-working and to be successful. We don’t believe in public quarrels, but getting on with that which we truly believe in.
Love to all
Catherine
Firstly you have never offered to hire any of my equipment - you just wanted it for free.. yet after supporting you I too learnt the hard way how egotistic you are and how you manipulate others purely for your own gain and thus would never work with you again.
Secondly, any person who threatens an orphanage and their founder with legal action for what someone else said is PURE SCUM. If you have any legal case take me to court and sue me.. Here's the email from the founder confirming your threatening action against her and the kids..
catherine (Email address removed)
Jan 12
to Saraswati, me, Uon, Hayley, Sokny, Kim, sothy
Dear all,
I don’t have much time, as I have to catch a train.
Julien threatened xxx with the police and me personally with the British police, as a direct result of Jem’s Facebook post.
For xxx the way to stand up to Julien is to be honest, dignified and hard-working and to be successful. We don’t believe in public quarrels, but getting on with that which we truly believe in.
Love to all
Catherine
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