The trick is to stay busy and not get bored, I used to own a business in Perth and drank more(lots more)than I do here, I never had to worry about being an alcoholic as I hate the taste of anything with alcohol ,I only go to the bars to socialize and stop the boredom , I see too many guys just sitting around drinking all day here,and think what a waste? maybe they like the taste? but drinking and drugs is a total waste of time, my highs come from doing things I love to do, if it means taking on more business to stay away from the boredom than I am happy to do this,Perthguy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 2:45 amoffshoresports wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 1:01 am
It's crazy seeing so many intelligent and creative people off themselves in SE Asia. I wonder if that's par for the course for all expats or just the ones in Cambodia & Thailand? Even though I'm not intelligent or creative, I'm happy I took a break from the Kingdom.
RIP Boomer
I watched normal dudes turn full blown alcoholic here in KoW, Myself one of them.
Hence returning home to perth where i have plans to earn Over 100K per year laying asphalt.
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More BS, how would you watch some "normal dude turn full alcoholic" on a 10 day holiday? And more BS about your gyppo job.Perthguy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 2:45 amoffshoresports wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 1:01 am
It's crazy seeing so many intelligent and creative people off themselves in SE Asia. I wonder if that's par for the course for all expats or just the ones in Cambodia & Thailand? Even though I'm not intelligent or creative, I'm happy I took a break from the Kingdom.
RIP Boomer
I watched normal dudes turn full blown alcoholic here in KoW, Myself one of them.
Hence returning home to perth where i have plans to earn Over 100K per year laying asphalt.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
Its very Australian to use hard work as a distraction from bad habits and bad company.
Both of the latter are easily found in KoW as you all might know..
So you seem to have turned a thread about boomer and suicide into a thread about you and your tedious mythical paying job.Perthguy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 2:45 amoffshoresports wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 1:01 am
It's crazy seeing so many intelligent and creative people off themselves in SE Asia. I wonder if that's par for the course for all expats or just the ones in Cambodia & Thailand? Even though I'm not intelligent or creative, I'm happy I took a break from the Kingdom.
RIP Boomer
I watched normal dudes turn full blown alcoholic here in KoW, Myself one of them.
Hence returning home to perth where i have plans to earn Over 100K per year laying asphalt.
Well done.
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He didn’t say he has a high paying job, he says he has plans for it. Like OrangeDragon announced plans to move back to the USA for two years and earn a million dollars and then retire to Cambodia.
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So sorry to hear this news! RIP Boomer................
This article has just been posted on The Age website, and is pretty pertinent!
Good for those of us with sons to take note........
This article has just been posted on The Age website, and is pretty pertinent!
Good for those of us with sons to take note........
https://www.theage.com.au/national/who- ... 51iyj.htmlWho can fathom why boys take their own lives? Here's 13 Reasons Why
They came for ratings but they ended up with dead teenagers instead. In March 2017, Netflix released 13 Reasons Why, a teen drama that infamously depicted the graphic suicide of the show’s protagonist. At the time of its release, mental health experts came out in droves to perform a new-age form of damage control, giving guidelines to the parents of young viewers.
They condemned Netflix for its shortsighted decision-making and its overlooking of the evidence on suicide contagion (exposure to suicide resulting in increased behaviour) in this vulnerable demographic.
This week the Journal of the American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry released a paper that confirmed the worst fears of clinicians, like myself, who were on the ground as the show was released, responding to an influx of adolescents in crisis.
After taking into account the trend of increasing youth suicide, the number of 10 to 17-year-olds who killed themselves in the US in the month after 13 Reasons Why was released was almost 30 per cent above average. The impact on young people in Australia was not included in this study, but at the time headpsace, the youth mental health project, described a spike in its crisis calls, searches for suicide content online increased, and clients in my clinical practice would often bring up the show.
If that isn’t a clear enough link, April 2017 had the highest rate of suicide in this age group between 2013 and 2017 and the authors estimate that 195 additional young lives were lost in the USA alone due to the release of this show.
One hundred and ninety-five lives.
But here’s the kicker: while the program's protagonist and eventual victim was a girl, only boys’ suicide rate significantly increased over this time.
Now, to the authors of the paper, this finding was a surprise, but for those of us who work with men and boys and who research mental health in this group, this is exactly what we would expect.
Despite women making up the vast majority of those who attempt suicide, around the globe, men make up about three-quarters of those who die by suicide.
Female distress is seriously problematic; it is common, overwhelming and requires early intervention.
Male distress, on the other hand, is fundamentally misunderstood, mistreated and minimised. This is why we have boys taking their lives at staggering rates even after watching a show about a girl who may have completely different problems from their own.
Dominant ideals of masculinity tell boys to hide their pain, to keep silent, stoic and in control, and although there is evidence to suggest that this is changing on a societal level, such progress takes time.
When boys express distress, it often manifests in ways that mirrors typical "misbehaviour". Schoolyard tropes, from aggression and violence to more serious substance misuse and risk-taking, are reliably more prevalent in boys, but are also reliably viewed as just stupid, male behaviour, rather than legitimate cries for help. If boys are to overcome the myriad barriers to sharing how they feel, from embarrassment and shame to bullying and ostracism, they are often met not with an open ear, but with someone who is quick to judge or offer advice in ways we never would for our young girls.
The parents who bring their children to see me for help are at a loss about what to say to their boys. They can’t seem to get through to them, and they feel their son slipping away from them.
What becomes clear is that they are not trying to listen the way the boy needs them to listen. They hear the grunts and the endless "I don’t knows" as a source of frustration when, in fact, they are a reminder to provide the space, silence and respect for the boy to collect his thoughts.
Boys may not always have the words to express what they are feeling, but their emotional experience is just as intense, beautiful, painful and overwhelming as anyone else’s. The problem is that we stifle it; we don’t allow it to flourish and we don’t strive to understand it through deep and meaningful connection. We choose to stifle it because, if we are being honest, it often makes us uncomfortable to watch.
Research among male survivors of suicide attempts shows that suicide often feels like a way to take back control, a brave or courageous masculine act in a world where they often feel misunderstood.
13 Reasons Why may have offered a way out for boys who were feeling lost, lonely and unable to cope. If we are being brutally honest, we know that the pursuit of ratings and money by mega-companies such as Netflix will always trump what the most vocal experts may say.
Despite these findings, 13 Reasons Why will undoubtedly not be the last time we see youth suicide on our screens. It is for this very reason that we need to make sure that we provide our young boys with a way in – to conversations, to meaningful relationships and to understanding that their pain is something we also feel and that they don’t need to deal with it alone.
Zac Seidler is a psychologist and PhD candidate.
If you or anyone you know needs support, you can contact Lifeline on 131 114, or beyondblue on 1300 224 63 or Kids Helpline on 1800 55 1800.
Work is the curse of the drinking classes. RIP Boomer, I guess I must have met you somewhere. OD ing on heroin is a very traditional way to go. Like a rock star back in the day, it appeals to me.
It wouldn’t surprise me if after those rates were calculated the suicide rate dropped off significantly for some time after to lower than average levels.chubacca wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:12 amSo sorry to hear this news! RIP Boomer................
This article has just been posted on The Age website, and is pretty pertinent!
Good for those of us with sons to take note........
https://www.theage.com.au/national/who- ... 51iyj.htmlWho can fathom why boys take their own lives? Here's 13 Reasons Why
They came for ratings but they ended up with dead teenagers instead. In March 2017, Netflix released 13 Reasons Why, a teen drama that infamously depicted the graphic suicide of the show’s protagonist. At the time of its release, mental health experts came out in droves to perform a new-age form of damage control, giving guidelines to the parents of young viewers.
They condemned Netflix for its shortsighted decision-making and its overlooking of the evidence on suicide contagion (exposure to suicide resulting in increased behaviour) in this vulnerable demographic.
This week the Journal of the American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry released a paper that confirmed the worst fears of clinicians, like myself, who were on the ground as the show was released, responding to an influx of adolescents in crisis.
After taking into account the trend of increasing youth suicide, the number of 10 to 17-year-olds who killed themselves in the US in the month after 13 Reasons Why was released was almost 30 per cent above average. The impact on young people in Australia was not included in this study, but at the time headpsace, the youth mental health project, described a spike in its crisis calls, searches for suicide content online increased, and clients in my clinical practice would often bring up the show.
If that isn’t a clear enough link, April 2017 had the highest rate of suicide in this age group between 2013 and 2017 and the authors estimate that 195 additional young lives were lost in the USA alone due to the release of this show.
One hundred and ninety-five lives.
But here’s the kicker: while the program's protagonist and eventual victim was a girl, only boys’ suicide rate significantly increased over this time.
Now, to the authors of the paper, this finding was a surprise, but for those of us who work with men and boys and who research mental health in this group, this is exactly what we would expect.
Despite women making up the vast majority of those who attempt suicide, around the globe, men make up about three-quarters of those who die by suicide.
Female distress is seriously problematic; it is common, overwhelming and requires early intervention.
Male distress, on the other hand, is fundamentally misunderstood, mistreated and minimised. This is why we have boys taking their lives at staggering rates even after watching a show about a girl who may have completely different problems from their own.
Dominant ideals of masculinity tell boys to hide their pain, to keep silent, stoic and in control, and although there is evidence to suggest that this is changing on a societal level, such progress takes time.
When boys express distress, it often manifests in ways that mirrors typical "misbehaviour". Schoolyard tropes, from aggression and violence to more serious substance misuse and risk-taking, are reliably more prevalent in boys, but are also reliably viewed as just stupid, male behaviour, rather than legitimate cries for help. If boys are to overcome the myriad barriers to sharing how they feel, from embarrassment and shame to bullying and ostracism, they are often met not with an open ear, but with someone who is quick to judge or offer advice in ways we never would for our young girls.
The parents who bring their children to see me for help are at a loss about what to say to their boys. They can’t seem to get through to them, and they feel their son slipping away from them.
What becomes clear is that they are not trying to listen the way the boy needs them to listen. They hear the grunts and the endless "I don’t knows" as a source of frustration when, in fact, they are a reminder to provide the space, silence and respect for the boy to collect his thoughts.
Boys may not always have the words to express what they are feeling, but their emotional experience is just as intense, beautiful, painful and overwhelming as anyone else’s. The problem is that we stifle it; we don’t allow it to flourish and we don’t strive to understand it through deep and meaningful connection. We choose to stifle it because, if we are being honest, it often makes us uncomfortable to watch.
Research among male survivors of suicide attempts shows that suicide often feels like a way to take back control, a brave or courageous masculine act in a world where they often feel misunderstood.
13 Reasons Why may have offered a way out for boys who were feeling lost, lonely and unable to cope. If we are being brutally honest, we know that the pursuit of ratings and money by mega-companies such as Netflix will always trump what the most vocal experts may say.
Despite these findings, 13 Reasons Why will undoubtedly not be the last time we see youth suicide on our screens. It is for this very reason that we need to make sure that we provide our young boys with a way in – to conversations, to meaningful relationships and to understanding that their pain is something we also feel and that they don’t need to deal with it alone.
Zac Seidler is a psychologist and PhD candidate.
If you or anyone you know needs support, you can contact Lifeline on 131 114, or beyondblue on 1300 224 63 or Kids Helpline on 1800 55 1800.
Meaning although it may have prompted some kids to commit suicide it didn’t increase the overall amount of people with suicidal tendencies - or it didn’t make people suicidal who weren’t already.
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Nice post. Not reprinting the quotes as that would take up space. It was interesting but nothing new in it.YaTingPom wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:35 amSo sorry to hear this news! RIP Boomer................
This article has just been posted on The Age website, and is pretty pertinent!
Good for those of us with sons to take note........
It wouldn’t surprise me if after those rates were calculated the suicide rate dropped off significantly for some time after to lower than average levels.
Meaning although it may have prompted some kids to commit suicide it didn’t increase the overall amount of people with suicidal tendencies - or it didn’t make people suicidal who weren’t already.
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In today's world of broken families, absent fathers, access to just about anything you want on the net, it's no surprise that kids are confused and think dark thoughts. Mums are left to be mother and father as well as provider. Far too much information hits you every second of the day until the brain goes into overload. Just look around you at what is going on. Heads are buried into smart phones accessing God knows what.
My solution would be considered sexist and outdated but at least it raised several generations of almost normal people instead of a bunch of brain dead zombies.
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Yes he did, countless times. This is not the first time the doofus has bullshitted about himself.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
Actually if go back to OZ i can earn approx 1800$ a week working 66 hours a week.Lucky Lucan wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 8:31 pmYes he did, countless times. This is not the first time the doofus has bullshitted about himself.
Thats cleared, before tax it is closer to 2200$ a week.
Thats 100K per year and then some.
66 Hours a week is no easy task, but imagine the possibilities in cambodia with 100K large....
With a budget of 2000K a month its 4 years of living, if you work part time and earn 500$ a month means it would last 5 years.
Thats 5 years of good living for 1 years sacrifice in australia.
Amazing.
The temptations in Cambodia are tremendous, pulling you, urging you to the dark side.
The Grim Reaper is alive here, and doing very well indeed.
The Grim Reaper is alive here, and doing very well indeed.