This is why we need a like button lolLucky Lucan wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:50 pmKhmerhit, you really fucked up there, trying to split hairs without even knowing anything about the case. You are definitely in the creep watchlist from now on.
Tampa, Florida lawyer Rugh James Cline arrested in Cambodia on child sex charge
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I thought it was safe to look at this thread again, apparently not.
Bloke's a nonce , sex case, call it what you will, hang him , hang him, hang him.
Bloke's a nonce , sex case, call it what you will, hang him , hang him, hang him.
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Cline is still incarcerated.Yerg wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:03 pmDidn't he get off purely on a technicality?? Caught but escaped by the skin of his teeth. Agree with Vlad, you can't "almost" be a nonce. You are or you are not. Or is there now such a thing as "transitioning" to become...???
But I suppose you can "almost" be a nonce-apologist!! Fucknugget.
It is Alfred Stelpstra the Canadian teacher whose computer Canadian police found child porn on who got off on a technicality and now he creates sock puppets like Geaker and Lovelybunny and Ccline blaming the victim underage street children and claiming it was a set up. He does that and debates the age of consent and generally tries to push the limit of acceptance because he identifies with pedophiles because he himself is a pedophile who is no longer allowed to teach in Canada because he's a pedophile so he frequently travels to Siem Reap and trolls Cambodia forums with his pedophilia shit.
Khmerhit is just a low IQ moron who thinks normal people give a shit about the difference between a pedophile and a hebephile. He's either plain stupid or autistic or worse.
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My posts were made well before photos of the girls and allegations of the trafficking were available. The only info at the time being the seemingly voluntary soliciting on pub street late at night by what has now been proven to be underage girls.Lucky Lucan wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:00 pmI wasn't really arguing with your points which were valid. I just found your comment a convenient way to get into the issue of why a certain section of long-term posters felt the need to blame the victims and declare that it was obviously a set up. We don't know yet but it says a lot when grizzled old men are prepared to blame underage ( all less than 15 if anyone wants to read the reports) street kids for being abused/ raped. A can of worms that Lucky Seven, Backhome, Khmerhit and others are welcome to open.
Having seen images of the girls and now knowing they were trafficked I agree they were victims and the perp definitely would have known they were underage .
Nothing in my posts did I suggest there was a set up , I didn't regard them as victims at the time though because the evidence was not as obvious as it is now .
It's easy to get on a forum and crow about how objectionable this behaviour is and do nothing to prevent it happening. I remember one poster pounding his chest a while back about how he had a go at all the old blokes drinking at his mates bar . He was so disgusted at them taking advantage of the underage girls working there and told them so , what the hero failed to do was have a go at the owner of the bar that employed them !
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Every man is responsible for his own actions, so stop trying to group people together.Lucky Seven wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:29 amMy posts were made well before photos of the girls and allegations of the trafficking were available. The only info at the time being the seemingly voluntary soliciting on pub street late at night by what has now been proven to be underage girls.Lucky Lucan wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:00 pmI wasn't really arguing with your points which were valid. I just found your comment a convenient way to get into the issue of why a certain section of long-term posters felt the need to blame the victims and declare that it was obviously a set up. We don't know yet but it says a lot when grizzled old men are prepared to blame underage ( all less than 15 if anyone wants to read the reports) street kids for being abused/ raped. A can of worms that Lucky Seven, Backhome, Khmerhit and others are welcome to open.
Having seen images of the girls and now knowing they were trafficked I agree they were victims and the perp definitely would have known they were underage .
Nothing in my posts did I suggest there was a set up , I didn't regard them as victims at the time though because the evidence was not as obvious as it is now .
It's easy to get on a forum and crow about how objectionable this behaviour is and do nothing to prevent it happening. I remember one poster pounding his chest a while back about how he had a go at all the old blokes drinking at his mates bar . He was so disgusted at them taking advantage of the underage girls working there and told them so , what the hero failed to do was have a go at the owner of the bar that employed them !
They all sound like top blokes, tho. You have a good memory, by the way.
I love bitches n gonna fuck Texas and the USA+ right up their god damn ass! Hallelujah!
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You were pretty quick to jump to the conclusion that the victims were soliciting on Pub St and therefore complicit.Lucky Seven wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:29 amMy posts were made well before photos of the girls and allegations of the trafficking were available. The only info at the time being the seemingly voluntary soliciting on pub street late at night by what has now been proven to be underage girls.Lucky Lucan wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:00 pmI wasn't really arguing with your points which were valid. I just found your comment a convenient way to get into the issue of why a certain section of long-term posters felt the need to blame the victims and declare that it was obviously a set up. We don't know yet but it says a lot when grizzled old men are prepared to blame underage ( all less than 15 if anyone wants to read the reports) street kids for being abused/ raped. A can of worms that Lucky Seven, Backhome, Khmerhit and others are welcome to open.
Having seen images of the girls and now knowing they were trafficked I agree they were victims and the perp definitely would have known they were underage .
Nothing in my posts did I suggest there was a set up , I didn't regard them as victims at the time though because the evidence was not as obvious as it is now .
Lucky Seven wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:16 am
The very definition of a victim is also someone who is tricked , duped or helpless . These underage girls were not in this category. Your " very definition " is valid however they deliberately placed themselves for reward to become victims .
My very definition of a victim would be a molested child not encouraging an offense.... e.g. alter boy / priest ....teacher / student . These trusting minors are victims not underage girls soliciting at night in pub street .
Anyway you think their victims , I don't but regardless of that if he's done the crime then he deserves to be appropriately punished.
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Being complicit doesn't necessarily mean they were culpable .... one can still be complicit under duress which diminishes culpability.
"Man arrested in Cambodia on child sex charge", this was the info available. Was it not enough for you to believe that the victims were underage children? What possible reason could there be for arresting someone on child sex charges if no children were involved? Do you think these arrests happen accidentally?Lucky Seven wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:29 ambefore photos of the girls and allegations of the trafficking were available. The only info at the time
Why do they need to send you pictures of the underage victims before you believe that the victims of "child sex" were minors? How much detail do you need before you decide to shut the fuck up?
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Well, that is down to interpretation but imo it is too convenient for a defense.Lucky Seven wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:21 amBeing complicit doesn't necessarily mean they were culpable .... one can still be complicit under duress which diminishes culpability.
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So you're saying once arrested one's guilty .... and you call me an idiot .Alexandra wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:41 am"Man arrested in Cambodia on child sex charge", this was the info available. Was it not enough for you to believe that the victims were underage children? What possible reason could there be for arresting someone on child sex charges if no children were involved? Do you think these arrests happen accidentally?Lucky Seven wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:29 ambefore photos of the girls and allegations of the trafficking were available. The only info at the time
Why do they need to send you pictures of the underage victims before you believe that the victims of "child sex" were minors? How much detail do you need before you decide to shut the fuck up?
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Absolutely agree ...... I'm not defending Cline just noting circumstances and facts leading to the offense.kinard wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:58 amWell, that is down to interpretation but imo it is too convenient for a defense.Lucky Seven wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:21 amBeing complicit doesn't necessarily mean they were culpable .... one can still be complicit under duress which diminishes culpability.
Nobody has been wrongly arrested. They all claim to be set up by corrupt NGO or they've been framed for working at schools owned by opposition supporters or their identity has been mistaken or some other bollocks. Every goddamn time it's the same tale.Lucky Seven wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:07 amSo you're saying once arrested one's guilty .... and you call me an idiot .
You said that you didn't have enough info to make up your mind. "Man arrested for sexing kids" wasn't enough for you.
Were they kids? Did sex happen? Was there even a man? It's so mysterious. It's so hard to keep track of what's going on. Does Siem Reap even exist? What do you think, do we have enough info at hand to believe that it does? I'm skeptical!!!!11
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Relax Alexandra , you're getting too worked up over my post ..... if it makes you feel better I think he's guilty too .Alexandra wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:44 amNobody has been wrongly arrested. They all claim to be set up by corrupt NGO or they've been framed for working at schools owned by opposition supporters or their identity has been mistaken or some other bollocks. Every goddamn time it's the same tale.Lucky Seven wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:07 amSo you're saying once arrested one's guilty .... and you call me an idiot .
You said that you didn't have enough info to make up your mind. "Man arrested for sexing kids" wasn't enough for you.
Were they kids? Did sex happen? Was there even a man? It's so mysterious. It's so hard to keep track of what's going on. Does Siem Reap even exist? What do you think, do we have enough info at hand to believe that it does? I'm skeptical!!!!11
By the way , make sure you're never on a jury !
My interest was because someone mentioned the case on another forums so I took a moment to find out what's what - or at least as close as I could.Alexandra wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:42 pmAssume you're not Stelpstra. So what? It's not preventing you from expressing the same twisted ideas.
Who exactly you are doesn't matter as much as what you say and the interest you take in this kind of topic. You seem to think people have a personal vendetta against Stelpstra when in fact it is his opinions and sick sexual desires he is being ostracized for. It's the sick things you, one or two of you who cares, are writing, not whatever the hell they write on your passport.
As for perverted child sex - Please quote any post where I've defended such crap.
I have said I refuse to condemn anyone until they have been proven guilty - That's just fairness.
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