I believe they are all members of the UK parliament who have been misled by certain demagogic, racist and exiled peoples.
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Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
They don't support opposition, though do "act" against unfair political systems. To be able to do so, they need to visit the countries involved. Just deny them access and they can not investigate in person, which is needed for them, to come to a first-hand opinion.
Where does it say they are acting on behalf of the EU?
MEPs, MPs, US Reps and their like get involved in causes they believe in all the time. That doesn’t necessarily mean it is official policy is the body they serve on.
EU Press coverage. The EU parliament does have working committees involved with these things and from that representation, they flock out all over the world to "monitor" on behalf of the EU Parliament. And based on their monitoring, they "advise" the EU commission on their actions. For this one, how much aid is going to be sent to Cambodia. You remember the threats, the EU would withdraw the aid ? These people check out on these things.Dallow Spicer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:50 am
Where does it say they are acting on behalf of the EU?
MEPs, MPs, US Reps and their like get involved in causes they believe in all the time. That doesn’t necessarily mean it is official policy is the body they serve on.
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He himself says he is going as a member of European Parliament to speak on behalf of Sam Rainsy:Dallow Spicer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:50 am
Where does it say they are acting on behalf of the EU?
MEPs, MPs, US Reps and their like get involved in causes they believe in all the time. That doesn’t necessarily mean it is official policy is the body they serve on.
And I just find it hypocritical that at every point his argument is based on “democracy”, and even in that statement he points out “elected member”, when he does not come from a democracy and his own country just appointed a PM with 92,000 elderly white guys deciding for the entire UK.Phil Bennion, a representative to the EU from the U.K. and one of those placed on the list, said “It does not cast a good light upon the government of Hun Sen in Cambodia, that it seeks to exclude elected European Parliamentarians for speaking up on behalf of the banned opposition.”
“It is more likely to reinforce the views in democratic countries across the world that Cambodia has retreated from multi-party democracy and respect for human rights,” Bennion said, writing in an email to RFA’s Khmer Service.
But it’s pretty much a moot point, he has three months left in the EU parliament anyways. Perhaps he could spend that time better campaigning for his own country’s future.
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Wait, you're saying the UK isn't a democracy? Seriously Migs, after years of living outside the US, your American parochialism and ignorance is astounding.Miguelito wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:29 am
And I just find it hypocritical that at every point his argument is based on “democracy”, and even in that statement he points out “elected member”, when he does not come from a democracy and his own country just appointed a PM with 92,000 elderly white guys deciding for the entire UK.
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Please educate me on what part of the House of Lords (officially the Right Honourable the Lords Spiritual and Temporal of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in Parliament assembled) is democratic.
And my “American parochialism and ignorance”? I’ve lived in a number of countries on several different continents, with more than one Master’s degree with an international focus. I don’t believe I’ve met you, have I?
And my “American parochialism and ignorance”? I’ve lived in a number of countries on several different continents, with more than one Master’s degree with an international focus. I don’t believe I’ve met you, have I?
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Is this a K440 brain fight? I like it. How many masters degrees do you have, Magoo?
And I absolutely agree with you. UK is all twisted up and got themselves in one hell of a bind. Nothing democratic about their state of affairs right now.
And I absolutely agree with you. UK is all twisted up and got themselves in one hell of a bind. Nothing democratic about their state of affairs right now.
I love bitches n gonna fuck Texas and the USA+ right up their god damn ass! Hallelujah!
So which Brit mod/admin contacted the Brit press yet?
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The House of Lords is not made up of democratically-elected members, you're right. But saying the UK is not a democracy because of that is like saying the US isn't a democracy because of its electoral college and its powerful lobbies. If the UK isn't a democracy, why are most of its ex-colonies, who based their systems on those of the UK, democracies?Miguelito wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:57 amPlease educate me on what part of the House of Lords (officially the Right Honourable the Lords Spiritual and Temporal of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in Parliament assembled) is democratic.
And my “American parochialism and ignorance”? I’ve lived in a number of countries on several different continents, with more than one Master’s degree with an international focus. I don’t believe I’ve met you, have I?
And your second point is exactly the point I'm trying to make. You're this self-described world traveller but still seem hung up on weird Yankee anti-UK "facts". Anyway, you seem riled, and I didn't intend for the comments to be personal, just part of the 440 shit giving process.
And no, we haven't met.
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That's a moot point. The UK voted to exit and leave the EU. They did not. And did not again, and here we are again. What kind of democracy is that? It's becoming plain that it is completely undemocratic when the people can't choose a leader to exit, as they voted for.Starving Pelican wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:42 amThe House of Lords is not made up of democratically-elected members, you're right. But saying the UK is not a democracy because of that is like saying the US isn't a democracy because of its electoral college and its powerful lobbies. If the UK isn't a democracy, why are most of its ex-colonies, who based their systems on those of the UK, democracies?Miguelito wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:57 amPlease educate me on what part of the House of Lords (officially the Right Honourable the Lords Spiritual and Temporal of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in Parliament assembled) is democratic.
And my “American parochialism and ignorance”? I’ve lived in a number of countries on several different continents, with more than one Master’s degree with an international focus. I don’t believe I’ve met you, have I?
And your second point is exactly the point I'm trying to make. You're this self-described world traveller but still seem hung up on weird Yankee anti-UK "facts". Anyway, you seem riled, and I didn't intend for the comments to be personal, just part of the 440 shit giving process.
And no, we haven't met.
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For what it’s worth I’ve had many an argument over drinks about how America is not a democracy. It’s a Republic, which some contest is a form of democracy, and there is an argument for that. But when it comes down to it, it’s extremely hypocritical for America to try and “spread democracy”, and there are a million examples of why. And I would also agree that most Americans probably don’t understand or care about the nuances.
Lastly, I also don’t support a full democracy, which Aristotle would describe as anarchic mob rule, and Socrates was completely disdainful of. No majority should be able to commit things like slavery against a minority, and common unqualified individuals shouldn’t be getting voted into positions of immeasurable power.
Lastly, I also don’t support a full democracy, which Aristotle would describe as anarchic mob rule, and Socrates was completely disdainful of. No majority should be able to commit things like slavery against a minority, and common unqualified individuals shouldn’t be getting voted into positions of immeasurable power.
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You're a smart guy from what I've observed but you are having an absolute fucking mare in this thread.Miguelito wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:29 amAnd I just find it hypocritical that at every point his argument is based on “democracy”, and even in that statement he points out “elected member”, when he does not come from a democracy and his own country just appointed a PM with 92,000 elderly white guys deciding for the entire UK.
But it’s pretty much a moot point, he has three months left in the EU parliament anyways. Perhaps he could spend that time better campaigning for his own country’s future.
You really should not post about UK politics, you demonstrably know absolutely fuck all about how it works and you're making yourself look like a stupid, shrill, sloganeering cunt.
To make statements about "elderly white guys deciding" is embarrassing. You obviously do not realise that the 92,000 you refer to comprise the general public membership of the Conservative Party. These people are of all races, sexes and ages. Ever heard of the Young Conservatives? Take a wild guess what they are. And yeah, as Members they got to fucking vote for the leader of the Conservative Party. You may extrapolate they are not elderly but I can't attest to them being not criminally white. The bastards. Some of them are probably male, too. The cunts. Anyway, here's something else for you to mull on.
This is the new Chairman of the Conservative and Unionist Party. Just look at that old white cunt. Sickening, isn't it. Racist bastards.
This is the new Chancellor of The Exchequer. Fucking honkies. Just can't help themselves, can they? Another white coffin dodger.
Home Secretary? Look at this old, white fucker. This one's even trying to pass itself off as transgender.
You have no clue how British politics works. None. Do you know how many Prime Ministers have taken office in the same manner? Here's a graphic to wash away your ignorance on the matter.
See that Gordon Brown? The last Labour PM. Like to take a guess at how many people anywhere, of any class or station or political party affiliation actually voted for him to accede to the Leadership of the Labour Party and, by extension of that, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?
Fucking none. Not one elderly white man. Not one young female. Nobody at all. Not even black transgender members of the Labour Party got a say in that one.
You want to talk about ersatz democracy and "appointments"? Talk about Ursula von der Leyen and its ilk. Foisted upon the millions of citizens of the EU by the EU Council as their new EU President through an entirely opaque process of backroom horse-trading, followed by strong-arming and bribing the members of the EU Parliament into rubber stamping the corrupt shenanigans and still only succeeding in getting it through by wafer thin majority when she was the only candidate. Yes. Really. Read that again. That bastion of democracy gave them one candidate to vote for. Even Mugabe wasn't that brazen all the time.
And those cunts are talking about coming over and haranguing someone about restrictive candidacy and lack of democracy?
Anyway, next time you get that swelling, bursting feeling inside, and you want to start regurgitating opinions about a society and a political system you really, really don't understand which will weigh in at around the level of sophistication and sagacity as the posts from blue-haired mongoloid millennials on Twatter and Faecebook, do yourself a favour, Don't.
Go out for dinner, take photos of what hits the table and write a review of the restaurant. You're a gourmand and a connoisseur, without a doubt, but when you start writing about British politics it's like listening to an American soccer mom housewife guest commentating at the World Cup for ESPN.
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