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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby sohi » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:28 am

just to clarify I do soak the rice, and I feed them other seeds when available, I may be young but between me and my staff we have 100+ years farming experience. I'd rather have happy skinny birds then keep them locked up, I know i could have fatter birds and make more a few more $$ but its not just about the money for me. Also locals wont buy factory chicken as they say it tastes shit, and i agree with them.
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby eight » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:33 pm

sohi wrote:just to clarify I do soak the rice, and I feed them other seeds when available, I may be young but between me and my staff we have 100+ years farming experience. I'd rather have happy skinny birds then keep them locked up, I know i could have fatter birds and make more a few more $$ but its not just about the money for me. Also locals wont buy factory chicken as they say it tastes shit, and i agree with them.


Nothing wrong with being young, I was just pointing out one of the things that come with age, ''experience''. As for factory chickens tasting like shit, it all depends on what you are feeding them. My favorite bird has always been the Austrolorp or Black orpington, a heavy meat bird and a good layer. If crushed garlic is thrown into their water supply, to control internal worms and lice in their feathers you end up with garlic flavoured chicken and eggs.
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raising meat chickens

Postby jm » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:56 pm

You raise 'em I'll cook 'em Eight. Been dying to give Cuban roast or grilled chicken a try.
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby Doctor Seuss » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:04 pm

Ive investigated raising chickens deeply... Ive spoken to about a dozen of the mid-size cambodian run operations and suggest you do the same if ou are serious about this.

Most of the people I have spoken to have between 3,000 to 8,000 head of chicken. All of them are currently raising their chickens for CP company. All of them initially started by raising the chickens themselves and were able to get a higher price per head when selling to the open market, but at the end of the day, the contract price offered by CP, along with all the benefits, turns out to be a much sweeter offer.

CP will supply you with young chicks, they will supply you with all feed (CP feed will grow the chicks to the required weight in the required time), they will have their company-employed veterinarian visit your site twice per month, they will supply any vaccinations needed for disease, they will replace any dead or diseased chicks, and they will buy all chicks that meet the minimum weight after the specified period.

To set up a farm of 5,000 head of chicks (building, feed equipment, feed, etc), costs about $15,000. You can make this money back on contract with CP after two breeding cycles (about 8 months). The manure produced from such a farm is about 1 tonne every 4 weeks, which can be sold at $1/kg, if and where a market is available.

If you are serious about starting a chicken farm, contact CP company. They will teach you everything to start up and produce according to their standards. You will earn less on contract with them than on the free market, but the benefits they offer provide the kind of security that outweigh that small loss... especially if you sont really know what you are doing in the beginning.
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby fritspaap » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:25 pm

thanks doctor suess, a friend of mine just started with 2000 chickens, he bought them for 1 dollar each from CP company,
he told me it will take around 38 days to grow big enough to sell, they would be around 1.5 - 2.5 kilos , he told them CP company gives him 9600 Riel a kilo..
though u say they get sold at 1 $ a kilo ??
im thinking about investing 5000 $ together with the 10.000 $ from my family in law to raise some chicks on their land.

and could i ask you why u decided not to do it ?
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby hanky » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:26 pm

Doctor Seuss wrote:he manure produced from such a farm is about 1 tonne every 4 weeks, which can be sold at $1/kg, if and where a market is available.



$1 a kilo sounds a bit on the high side, do you mean after it been dried out or something?
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby Doctor Seuss » Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:22 pm

fritspaap wrote:thanks doctor suess, a friend of mine just started with 2000 chickens, he bought them for 1 dollar each from CP company,
he told me it will take around 38 days to grow big enough to sell, they would be around 1.5 - 2.5 kilos , he told them CP company gives him 9600 Riel a kilo..
though u say they get sold at 1 $ a kilo ??
im thinking about investing 5000 $ together with the 10.000 $ from my family in law to raise some chicks on their land.

and could i ask you why u decided not to do it ?


Who said I didn't?

I said the MANURE can be sold for $1/kg... depends on where you are though.
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby fritspaap » Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:31 pm

what is manure ?
it in komong speu
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby sohi » Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:45 pm

I'd just like to add my chickens are a lot "gamier" then factory, coming from England its closer to peasant meat then the chickens i eat at home. also the manure is considered too salty to sell locally.
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby sohi » Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:55 pm

ps if you want roi then buffalo is the way to go, $250 for a baby and when it gets big you can rent for $150pm in the plowing season
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby sohi » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:16 pm

pps we don't use cooked rice as this can make chickens blind
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby hanky » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:32 pm

sohi wrote:ps if you want roi then buffalo is the way to go


Flies? How long is the plowing season then? I can't understand the high prices for grown buffalo and cattle, I know they are generally kept as work animals, but I can't see how you can get a decent return on them for meat.
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby sohi » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:38 pm

if you know enough people growing different crops then plowing happens nearly all year, but rice only a couple a months, plus a nice strong fully grown buffaluo goes for $1400+
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby hanky » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:50 pm

Fair enough, I always wondered why people bothered keeping such pain in the ass big animals. Do they eat them much?
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby sohi » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:55 pm

not so much buffalo as it can cause problems for people that aren't used to eating it, tho sometimes its fobbed of as beef and takes a trained eye to spot the difference uncooked, in cambodia they dont spend money for food so growing a baby cow/buffalo is a sound investment offering around 200% pa with a smallish risk of disease
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