Webdesign in Cambodia

[soyoung123]

Anyone recommend a good web designer, preferable Khmer or at least use Khmer staff, in Siem Reap area or Phnom Phen. Looking for someone to redesign a website and create a blog. Thanks

[fotojourn]

Why are you specifying the need for a Khmer designer?

What sort of website are you looking for - a skite site, an eCommerce site?

A lot of the websites I've seen built in Cambodia are Windows asp implementations which is really old technology. You should be at east looking for someone who builds websites using a content management system based on Unix and hosted on a professional web hosting company - which probably means outside of Cambodia.

[unperson]

Could enquire at:

http://cresittel.com/index.php?page=customers

But they ain't cheap.

[kahoy]

A lot of the websites I've seen built in Cambodia are Windows asp implementations which is really old technology. You should be at east looking for someone who builds websites using a content management system based on Unix and hosted on a professional web hosting company - which probably means outside of Cambodia.

I entirely agree with the sentiment but does that necessarily imply a company outside Cambodia? If so, I smell a business oppo.

[A Wannted Man]

And the reason they are mostly ASP is that M$ in all their cunning offer cut down (or non existant) educational packages (specially to poor countries) in terms of pricing, of their development software , so they get them when they're at uni and college and that's what they'll know and use in the big wide world, good strategy, and asp and .net aint old tech it's just a variant and a feeble attempt of M$ to get people off the LAMP net frameworks (as well as ruby etc etc etc). What can be got for free is truly mind blowing and improves on a daily basis, there are some very good web design studios here, the main problem is a lot of the hosting is done on windows servers and the infrastructure is terrible as well as customer relations etc etc.

Don't knock the local developers, there are some damn good ones as well as good foreign ones, but the foreign ones (like myself) are not cheap and thus appear not willing to be competitive price wise, thats up to the end customer to decide though, myself I've always said I am more of a developer than a designer (big difference), coming from a coding background.

[Playboy]

Anyone recommend a good web designer, preferable Khmer or at least use Khmer staff, in Siem Reap area or Phnom Phen. Looking for someone to redesign a website and create a blog. Thanks

You could try:

http://www.greenict.com.kh/

http://www.greenict.com.kh/index.php?op ... &Itemid=54

http://www.linkedin.com/company/green-ict

[kahoy]

Ditto. I can't design for shit but I speak good Ruby on Rails, SQL, html and css. I used to develop web apps in Delphi (ISAPI) but everyone stopped using it and it is too expensive.

I tried .NET about 8 years ago and it was just a cluster fuck. I thought it had pretty much died. Third world countries must make up the 5% of the world's web servers. I had a win 2003 server running my last Delphi app until I finished porting it across to RoR. I killed it at the end of last month. Now I just run an Ubuntu server on the cloud. Cheaper and definitely way to go.

I will be looking for a decent graphics designer when I go to Cambodia next month.

[A Wannted Man]

I love M$ sometimes, we got this shitty language, lets do a .NET version, we're sure some educational establishment or board will pick it up and put it on the silly bus somewhere, then we give it away for free for 6 months, let it get taken up then charge full whack while dropping all support to it because we realise it's a pile of shit.

[kahoy]

Like everything Microsoft, they always had one eye on making sure it would only ever work on Windows, rather then the functionality of the language itself. I think I read they made .not open source now? M$ have lost the plot now and between android, linux and Mac OS (all linux variants) they are on the slippery slope to oblivion.

The achilles heel of proprietary solutions is that the only programmers (engineers if you will) working on language development are they ones they can afford to employ. If the toolset doesn't do well, development and updates slow as a result. This was also Borland's problem with Delphi and their C and Java products. Open source, on the other hand, picks the winners and dumps the losers very quickly. Thousands of contributors result in a fast development cycle which leaves the proprietary solutions in their dust.

[A Wannted Man]

I'm glad actually Sun had Java and wouldn't let M$ fuck it up (look at the css/html fiasco since IE5 till now), M$ even tried fucking up PHP and did a .NET version with Zends permission of course, don't think it took off though thank god.

[soyoung123]

Why are you specifying the need for a Khmer designer?

What sort of website are you looking for - a skite site, an eCommerce site?

A lot of the websites I've seen built in Cambodia are Windows asp implementations which is really old technology. You should be at east looking for someone who builds websites using a content management system based on Unix and hosted on a professional web hosting company - which probably means outside of Cambodia.

I just would rather work with locals. Feel like the money goes farther here so it could help more people. I'm real flexible more about the match I suppose.

It's for an ngo and they want a basic ecommerce site and a page for donations.

Interesting about the CMS thoughts. Is PHP MySQL shit? better than html right?

[soyoung123]

Could enquire at:

http://cresittel.com/index.php?page=customers

But they ain't cheap.

They look great but out of range!

[A Wannted Man]

The problem with website construction is that most people think it easier than it actually is. This is because a basic website with online tools and simple WYSIWYG editors give you only a paltry glimpse of what is possible with website construction and to go further takes a lot of work and quite a few steep learning curves.

Using locals is no problem, there are some very good website design companies here and there's a shitload more that are completely crap. One of most fundamental problems in Cambodians learning anything apart from basic IT (and this is no insult to Cambodians) is all the technical detail is in English and although never having picked up a Khmer translated IT manual (not that I could read it) I would assume, it costs a lot and not the most modern books are easily available or accessible.

If you go through this route, the best course is to get a company that uses Joomla, many themes are widely available and good free templates (think desktop themes but for a website), there are many plugins also available (commercial and free again) allowing you to donate, etc etc.

You also need to consider an e-payment facilitator there are many available and one which the Joomla plugin supports.

Hope this helps.

[Mr]

if you need a web designer, i can send you to a friend in Toul tom pong area. His company would definitely be able to help. pm me, as i may not be reading this reply often

[andyinasia]

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