What 90 to 125 cc bike for up to 900USD?
What 90 to 125 cc bike for up to 900USD?
Hi,
I want to buy my first moto here, since the cost for getting around are piling up. I am not planning to go on big road trips, but I like to frequently explore the provinces around Phnom Penh and I might fancy going down to Kep or Kampot every now and then.
The bike should be robust and easily fixed by any mechanic in Cambodia. So I was thinking sth along the lines of Honda Super Cup, Dream, Wave or any of the equivalents from Suzuki.
My budget is 500 to 1000 USD and I was thinking I need 100 USD for a helmet and tax/papers? Especially the latter is a little bit confusing to me. On the forums they often say that the bike "comes with registration card and plate". What does it mean and how much time and money do I need to invest if I buy a bike that comes without plates or registration?
For that kind of money I can only go for a used bike I guess? I have read the topic on new vs old but I just cannot afford to buy a new bike for 1400 USD right now. So how to ensure I get a good used one? Or should I get a new one and pay in installments? The latter might be possible if I purchase it through a Cambodian friend or my employer I guess?
Cheers!
I want to buy my first moto here, since the cost for getting around are piling up. I am not planning to go on big road trips, but I like to frequently explore the provinces around Phnom Penh and I might fancy going down to Kep or Kampot every now and then.
The bike should be robust and easily fixed by any mechanic in Cambodia. So I was thinking sth along the lines of Honda Super Cup, Dream, Wave or any of the equivalents from Suzuki.
My budget is 500 to 1000 USD and I was thinking I need 100 USD for a helmet and tax/papers? Especially the latter is a little bit confusing to me. On the forums they often say that the bike "comes with registration card and plate". What does it mean and how much time and money do I need to invest if I buy a bike that comes without plates or registration?
For that kind of money I can only go for a used bike I guess? I have read the topic on new vs old but I just cannot afford to buy a new bike for 1400 USD right now. So how to ensure I get a good used one? Or should I get a new one and pay in installments? The latter might be possible if I purchase it through a Cambodian friend or my employer I guess?
Cheers!
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I wouldn't buy a wave/ any underbone scoot to check all the boxes you mention.
They are just too small, too slow and too under suspended for that use.
I would buy a secondhand FTR or SL 223, or a secondhand phantom 200cc, secondhand pulsar 200cc or a secondhand Yamaha whateverthefuckitscalled 125cc for the money you mention. With preference toward the Yamaha or the FTR. The little Yamaha only costs a few hundred more new and, having seen a number of them well used over the last year, offers budget pricing with quite solid quality.
They are just too small, too slow and too under suspended for that use.
I would buy a secondhand FTR or SL 223, or a secondhand phantom 200cc, secondhand pulsar 200cc or a secondhand Yamaha whateverthefuckitscalled 125cc for the money you mention. With preference toward the Yamaha or the FTR. The little Yamaha only costs a few hundred more new and, having seen a number of them well used over the last year, offers budget pricing with quite solid quality.
Could always buy a Wave in Vietnam.
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I have been riding one with Viet plates here for 3 years now. Never any problem except for a top end rebuild at 50,000( Cost me $35 here). Very cheap on fuel too. PP to HCMC $4.50 for fuel with some left over.
Currently a standard 110cc Wave is $750 new in Vietnam. Just throw some mud on it and ride it across the border. If the police stop you here, just tell them your a tourist. You can legally ride an imported vehicle for 6 months without needing to register it.
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I have been riding one with Viet plates here for 3 years now. Never any problem except for a top end rebuild at 50,000( Cost me $35 here). Very cheap on fuel too. PP to HCMC $4.50 for fuel with some left over.
Currently a standard 110cc Wave is $750 new in Vietnam. Just throw some mud on it and ride it across the border. If the police stop you here, just tell them your a tourist. You can legally ride an imported vehicle for 6 months without needing to register it.
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Agree with Jackal. To explore provinces a 90-125 scooter will be miserable.Jackal wrote:I wouldn't buy a wave/ any underbone scoot to check all the boxes you mention.
They are just too small, too slow and too under suspended for that use.
I would buy a secondhand FTR or SL 223, or a secondhand phantom 200cc, secondhand pulsar 200cc or a secondhand Yamaha whateverthefuckitscalled 125cc for the money you mention. With preference toward the Yamaha or the FTR. The little Yamaha only costs a few hundred more new and, having seen a number of them well used over the last year, offers budget pricing with quite solid quality.
In that price range most of the bigger bikes are 10 years old or more. The Pulsar bikes are cheap you could get a 2 year old 135 or 150 for 600-800.
Older FTRs have lasted this long for a reason.
That said there are loads of bike sale places around o'russey. Go have a look, listen to the sound of the machine, this is more important than how the bike looks - cosmetic stuff can be easily fixed. Ask them if they will guarantee the machine for 3 months. Many places will agree. Then if you buy take it straight to a decent mechanic - maybe an official Honda or Suzuki place and get them to check it over. Lay it on thick with them, normally they won't want to change anything unless it is completely shafted. Tell them that if anything is nearly gone then replace it.
I'd look for a Honda wave or Suzuki equivalent in that price range.
thanks for the replies so far! really appreciated!
what I probably should have mentioned is that I have plenty of experiences driving cars but very limited experience riding two-wheelers. Couple of years with a small scooter in Europe and a few weeks riding a Honda Dream during an earlier visit to SEA.
I got a car license in my home country but not a dedicated moto license. my license is currently being converted by me employer and the document that I gonna get in return will enable me to ride anything below 125cc, right? This plus my limited experience in riding bikes with a clutch led me to thinking a wave, dream or cub might be my best bet? what about the cub though. Are they not robust enough or do you just think it won't be possible to find a good one with 90cc+ within my price range? not that design is really an argument but if it was I would go for the Cub any day.
what is the "Yamaha whateverthefuckitscalled 125cc" jackal was referring to? is it the xtz125? I guess this is the maximum I would be allowed to drive with my license? or does up to 125cc actually mean less than 125?
cheers!
what I probably should have mentioned is that I have plenty of experiences driving cars but very limited experience riding two-wheelers. Couple of years with a small scooter in Europe and a few weeks riding a Honda Dream during an earlier visit to SEA.
I got a car license in my home country but not a dedicated moto license. my license is currently being converted by me employer and the document that I gonna get in return will enable me to ride anything below 125cc, right? This plus my limited experience in riding bikes with a clutch led me to thinking a wave, dream or cub might be my best bet? what about the cub though. Are they not robust enough or do you just think it won't be possible to find a good one with 90cc+ within my price range? not that design is really an argument but if it was I would go for the Cub any day.
what is the "Yamaha whateverthefuckitscalled 125cc" jackal was referring to? is it the xtz125? I guess this is the maximum I would be allowed to drive with my license? or does up to 125cc actually mean less than 125?
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Yeah I think it is the xtz. Basically a mini trail bike, has a clutch and around 14hp, decent suspension travel and ergos.
You certainly could get a good Cub 90 for that budget. Personally, I find those small scoots quite uncomfortable once travelling any distance; my lower back and my arms get achey from the small frame and my legs start to go to sleep. I'm not particularly tall either at something below 190cm.
Yerah, you can ride a 125cc with the basic license. In six years I have never had my license category checked while riding a bike bigger than 125cc, so it's really not the biggest problem.
You certainly could get a good Cub 90 for that budget. Personally, I find those small scoots quite uncomfortable once travelling any distance; my lower back and my arms get achey from the small frame and my legs start to go to sleep. I'm not particularly tall either at something below 190cm.
Yerah, you can ride a 125cc with the basic license. In six years I have never had my license category checked while riding a bike bigger than 125cc, so it's really not the biggest problem.
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My 2c
As you have no experience riding a motorbike with a clutch go for a fully automatic scooter or a semi-auto wave or dream.
110cc-125cc bikes have no problem doing 90 km/hr and I don't see you needing to go faster.
They are also lots easier for tootling around PP which is what you will be spending most of your time doing and everywhere there are Khmers who can fix punctures and other stuff on these bikes.
Everyone keeps saying no big bike licence no problem but for how long? No one knows - least of all the traffic police or our almighty overlords.
As you have no experience riding a motorbike with a clutch go for a fully automatic scooter or a semi-auto wave or dream.
110cc-125cc bikes have no problem doing 90 km/hr and I don't see you needing to go faster.
They are also lots easier for tootling around PP which is what you will be spending most of your time doing and everywhere there are Khmers who can fix punctures and other stuff on these bikes.
Everyone keeps saying no big bike licence no problem but for how long? No one knows - least of all the traffic police or our almighty overlords.
lurcio wrote:My 2c
As you have no experience riding a motorbike with a clutch go for a fully automatic scooter or a semi-auto wave or dream.
110cc-125cc bikes have no problem doing 90 km/hr and I don't see you needing to go faster.
They are also lots easier for tootling around PP which is what you will be spending most of your time doing and everywhere there are Khmers who can fix punctures and other stuff on these bikes.
Everyone keeps saying no big bike licence no problem but for how long? No one knows - least of all the traffic police or our almighty overlords.
I second these thoughts. So the question is which one? Cub, Dream, Wave, sth else? Does it matter really or should I just get any of these as soon as I can find a good deal? And is having a new one worth exploring the possibility of paying installments?
First decide if you want a simple twist and go scooter or a semi-auto where you kick it thru the gears.
If semi-auto then I would go for a Wave as the Dreams are inexplicably overpriced IMO.
I bought a Yamaha Mio scooter 6 years ago new ($1100) and have never had a problem with.
Make sure what you buy has a registration plate and matching ID card - not worth the problems buying one without (and could well be stolen).
Also go for a bike with a front disc brake not a drum brake. No smoke or rattles. When you test ride take your hands (just) of the handle bars and if starts wobbling it has probably been in a frontal collision. I could go on and you can search google for info on what to check when buying a used moto. I would get a good 'un for $600. Pretty much anything is fixable for less than $100.
If semi-auto then I would go for a Wave as the Dreams are inexplicably overpriced IMO.
I bought a Yamaha Mio scooter 6 years ago new ($1100) and have never had a problem with.
Make sure what you buy has a registration plate and matching ID card - not worth the problems buying one without (and could well be stolen).
Also go for a bike with a front disc brake not a drum brake. No smoke or rattles. When you test ride take your hands (just) of the handle bars and if starts wobbling it has probably been in a frontal collision. I could go on and you can search google for info on what to check when buying a used moto. I would get a good 'un for $600. Pretty much anything is fixable for less than $100.
I went to two wheels only today and asked for the owners advice. He said that there is an area west of Mao Tse Toung that has a couple of Warehouses filled with imported bikes from South Korea which come at a fair price and are usually in a good condition.
Has anyone been there before and can point out the exact location? My guess is that he was referring to this street and its surroundings: https://www.google.com.kh/maps/place/Ca ... 7534?hl=en
Cheers
Has anyone been there before and can point out the exact location? My guess is that he was referring to this street and its surroundings: https://www.google.com.kh/maps/place/Ca ... 7534?hl=en
Cheers
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Map.location is right. Warehouses opposite Mondial. By the Caltex.
But they all seem to have same fixed price for same type bikes - Daelims Super Cubs etc. Few years ago there were several shops selling water damaged Super Cubs and the like. Quite badly corroded and guessing due to seawater after last major tsunami Japs had. Friend of mine bought an old Shitty Daelim for 550 from memory. Same crap that tuck tuck drivers use to haul their junk.
You can buy cheaper bikes on the various Facebook buy and sell groups. There was one saw posted earlier for 290 dollars - an older Suzuki Step or similar. No bargains at the warehouses.
But they all seem to have same fixed price for same type bikes - Daelims Super Cubs etc. Few years ago there were several shops selling water damaged Super Cubs and the like. Quite badly corroded and guessing due to seawater after last major tsunami Japs had. Friend of mine bought an old Shitty Daelim for 550 from memory. Same crap that tuck tuck drivers use to haul their junk.
You can buy cheaper bikes on the various Facebook buy and sell groups. There was one saw posted earlier for 290 dollars - an older Suzuki Step or similar. No bargains at the warehouses.
Keeway are selling brand new scooters with 2 year warranty for $900. Getting favourable reviews in other countries.
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