Sounds great, then it could be cheaper to get the original pieces you need to change, overseas and let them handle to handwork.Spigzy wrote:Sport, no frills. Yes, the Envotech guys (bar one disaster with the Battambang crew) do a decent job. It's not cheap, but also found when things were fixed they stayed fixed - unlike the usual "Yes bong, engine light come on normal, I turn it off now!" with the usual grease monkeys. When I took my first one over (grey market), they sorted out absolutely everything - from my own checks before buying the car was in pretty decent shape, after 1st inspection it was running like a dream. On top of that they gave me a list of things that would need work in 6-12 months, pipes, rubber perishables, etc. & likely pricing, so I could plan a bit ahead on maintenance also.
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Envotech only use OEM parts from my experience of replacing fuel lines & a few bits & bobs. I think if you're haggling over saving a few bucks on parts by sourcing them yourself from overseas & paying import duty & all the hassle, then you probably ought to question whether this is the type of car you really want to own. Whilst cheaper in PP than a damn Audi Q7 by a mile, a RR is still going to come in with repair bills in the hundreds/thousands - and definitely not the smaller bills you get with Toyota/Lexus where parts & labour are super cheap due to the abundance of those vehicles in Cambodia.
Bringing us slightly back on topic, I also own a Porsche 928 back in the UK, but the cost of buying it 20 years ago ($6k) was totally incommensurate with the maintenance & running costs (spent about $40k to date). That car was my first harsh lesson that buying a car you can afford is different from the sale price of the car. Damn that bedroom wall poster & Weird Science!! That's the reason why I'd stick with the older (2004-2009) RR 2.7 diesel & not a 2018 RR Sport Autobiography - I'm doing well, but the latter is totally out of my league, perhaps not to purchase, but certainly to run & repair - and at the end of the day, it's just a car that will potentially become obsolete in the next 10-20 years (as in cars in general, not just old ones!); not sure you could call that a good investment.
Perhaps I should set up a GoFundMe account for this - seems all the rage when you can't plan finances for shit?
Spigzy's Rolls Royce Wraith GoFundMe:
https://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com/co ... WRAITH.jpg
Bringing us slightly back on topic, I also own a Porsche 928 back in the UK, but the cost of buying it 20 years ago ($6k) was totally incommensurate with the maintenance & running costs (spent about $40k to date). That car was my first harsh lesson that buying a car you can afford is different from the sale price of the car. Damn that bedroom wall poster & Weird Science!! That's the reason why I'd stick with the older (2004-2009) RR 2.7 diesel & not a 2018 RR Sport Autobiography - I'm doing well, but the latter is totally out of my league, perhaps not to purchase, but certainly to run & repair - and at the end of the day, it's just a car that will potentially become obsolete in the next 10-20 years (as in cars in general, not just old ones!); not sure you could call that a good investment.
Perhaps I should set up a GoFundMe account for this - seems all the rage when you can't plan finances for shit?
Spigzy's Rolls Royce Wraith GoFundMe:
https://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com/co ... WRAITH.jpg
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Thanks for your insightful reply.Spigzy wrote:Envotech only use OEM parts from my experience of replacing fuel lines & a few bits & bobs. I think if you're haggling over saving a few bucks on parts by sourcing them yourself from overseas & paying import duty & all the hassle, then you probably ought to question whether this is the type of car you really want to own. Whilst cheaper in PP than a damn Audi Q7 by a mile, a RR is still going to come in with repair bills in the hundreds/thousands - and definitely not the smaller bills you get with Toyota/Lexus where parts & labour are super cheap due to the abundance of those vehicles in Cambodia.
Bringing us slightly back on topic, I also own a Porsche 928 back in the UK, but the cost of buying it 20 years ago ($6k) was totally incommensurate with the maintenance & running costs (spent about $40k to date). That car was my first harsh lesson that buying a car you can afford is different from the sale price of the car. Damn that bedroom wall poster & Weird Science!! That's the reason why I'd stick with the older (2004-2009) RR 2.7 diesel & not a 2018 RR Sport Autobiography - I'm doing well, but the latter is totally out of my league, perhaps not to purchase, but certainly to run & repair - and at the end of the day, it's just a car that will potentially become obsolete in the next 10-20 years (as in cars in general, not just old ones!); not sure you could call that a good investment.
Perhaps I should set up a GoFundMe account for this - seems all the rage when you can't plan finances for shit?
Spigzy's Rolls Royce Wraith GoFundMe:
https://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com/co ... WRAITH.jpg
By sourcing them from overseas, I was more thinking like bringing the needed parts in my own luggages on the next trip
Cars are definitively not a good investment especially brand new one
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I have my eyes on a nice 997 turbo.
Low mileage, my favorite color, never crashed or abused but I will have a Porsche inspection done anyway.
Actually my main concern is it is a first generation auto (tiptronic) and I fear it will feel numb compare to my modded sti.
Any advice from the forum petrol heads or from Petrolhead himself?
Low mileage, my favorite color, never crashed or abused but I will have a Porsche inspection done anyway.
Actually my main concern is it is a first generation auto (tiptronic) and I fear it will feel numb compare to my modded sti.
Any advice from the forum petrol heads or from Petrolhead himself?
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There's a great 1993 968 for sale here, for the ridiculous price of $20,000 (down from $30,000). The one catch is that it was a diplomat's car, so it is being sold without duty/import tax. I have no idea how hard or expensive that would be to clean up now.Barang_doa_slae wrote:I have my eyes on a nice 997 turbo.
Low mileage, my favorite color, never crashed or abused but I will have a Porsche inspection done anyway.
Actually my main concern is it is a first generation auto (tiptronic) and I fear it will feel numb compare to my modded sti.
Any advice from the forum petrol heads or from Petrolhead himself?
https://finder.porsche.com/kh/en_KH/968-Coupe-2182
You’re getting confused with import/special tax (Cambodia) and vehicle licence (Singapore), neither of which have anything to do with the quality of the road network. Singapore has that system to limit the amount of cars on the road. Cambodia taxes are high because of greed.Marinaris wrote:I'm aware of that, those countries have decent public transportation hence the comprehensible high tax.Miguelito wrote:Malaysia and Thailand as well. For a car such as these the tax comes to about 300% there!YaTingPom wrote:Buying and owning cars in Singapore are more expensive. (Getting a licence for the car to drive it can double the price of the car)
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Is that the Russian one?Barang_doa_slae wrote:I have my eyes on a nice 997 turbo.
Low mileage, my favorite color, never crashed or abused but I will have a Porsche inspection done anyway.
Actually my main concern is it is a first generation auto (tiptronic) and I fear it will feel numb compare to my modded sti.
Any advice from the forum petrol heads or from Petrolhead himself?
I’d be careful of any car that sits around for months/years on end without being used/started especially a Porsche.
Utterly pointless car unless you live at the bottom of Bokor or just ant to pose. Most Khmer wouldn’t even notice it.
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I have been eyeing off 911s lately but not quite packing your budget - mostly 996s for me. The 911 is the most rational vehicle you can buy. They are fuel efficient for a sports car, very reliable and hold their value like no other. You cannot buy one of any age in Australia under $35k.Barang_doa_slae wrote:I have my eyes on a nice 997 turbo.
Low mileage, my favorite color, never crashed or abused but I will have a Porsche inspection done anyway.
Actually my main concern is it is a first generation auto (tiptronic) and I fear it will feel numb compare to my modded sti.
Any advice from the forum petrol heads or from Petrolhead himself?
Biggest problem is that bloody RMS leak which requires the mechanic to drop the engine out. Most who buy a 996 or 997 do this as a preventative maintenance measure if not already indicated in the log book.
I’d avoid convertibles and tiptronic versions if you want to ride the ever increasing Porsche resale value wave - especially strong in turbo variants. Purists chase manual hardtops.
Otherwise you can’t go wrong with a 911 if you can afford to run it.
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Yes it is but it doesn’t belong to the Russians. Funny thing is I have seen this car a few time from the year it was imported. Maintained by Porsche in PP and driven a few thousands km a year since then.YaTingPom wrote:Is that the Russian one?Barang_doa_slae wrote:I have my eyes on a nice 997 turbo.
Low mileage, my favorite color, never crashed or abused but I will have a Porsche inspection done anyway.
Actually my main concern is it is a first generation auto (tiptronic) and I fear it will feel numb compare to my modded sti.
Any advice from the forum petrol heads or from Petrolhead himself?
I’d be careful of any car that sits around for months/years on end without being used/started especially a Porsche.
Utterly pointless car unless you live at the bottom of Bokor or just ant to pose. Most Khmer wouldn’t even notice it.
Regarding its usefulness, don’t you worry it only has 50hp more than my actual car and I do lack a few ponies to my taste (btw I intend on keeping the flat four and transform it into a proper rallye car without any interior comfort).
PAlso being one of the few lighthouse keepers remaining in SHV, I often go to Kampot for some fun with the infamous monsters and prefer to arrive in less than an hour when I feel party mood thirsty.
Now I couldn’t give a fuck to Khmers noticing it but I can’t say the same for my annual trips to LOS where Thais wouldn’t as inconsiderate.
Fair enough.
I’d prefer a Mazda MX5 for Bokor, but then I’ve never really liked Porsche...apart from that Turbo one for sale!
I’ve seen a few people advertising it. Is it owned by a German guy who fixes bikes?
I’d prefer a Mazda MX5 for Bokor, but then I’ve never really liked Porsche...apart from that Turbo one for sale!
I’ve seen a few people advertising it. Is it owned by a German guy who fixes bikes?
pew, pew, pew, pew!
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I read somewhere that the RMS leak issue wasn’t concerning turbos models but if it is it must indeed be addressed preventively as aIt can lead to a catastrophic engine failure.Petrol Head wrote:I have been eyeing off 911s lately but not quite packing your budget - mostly 996s for me. The 911 is the most rational vehicle you can buy. They are fuel efficient for a sports car, very reliable and hold their value like no other. You cannot buy one of any age in Australia under $35k.Barang_doa_slae wrote:I have my eyes on a nice 997 turbo.
Low mileage, my favorite color, never crashed or abused but I will have a Porsche inspection done anyway.
Actually my main concern is it is a first generation auto (tiptronic) and I fear it will feel numb compare to my modded sti.
Any advice from the forum petrol heads or from Petrolhead himself?
Biggest problem is that bloody RMS leak which requires the mechanic to drop the engine out. Most who buy a 996 or 997 do this as a preventative maintenance measure if not already indicated in the log book.
I’d avoid convertibles and tiptronic versions if you want to ride the ever increasing Porsche resale value wave - especially strong in turbo variants. Purists chase manual hardtops.
Otherwise you can’t go wrong with a 911 if you can afford to run it.
As you said I really wished it was a manual or a second gen PDK. On the other hand price is the same as in the US, my wife will be able to drive it (or not ) and one can do a mod to add newer palet to replace the stupids + and - wheel buttons.
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He is French and not the owner, his cousin in PP is.YaTingPom wrote:Fair enough.
I’d prefer a Mazda MX5 for Bokor, but then I’ve never really liked Porsche...apart from that Turbo one for sale!
I’ve seen a few people advertising it. Is it owned by a German guy who fixes bikes?
As I said many times I would never drive anything but an AWD sport car in Cambodia.
AWD are good (had a AWD 300hp Nissan and a Audi S4) but not as much fun as RWD. Now a RWD Porsche I’d avoid.Barang_doa_slae wrote:He is French and not the owner, his cousin in PP is.YaTingPom wrote:Fair enough.
I’d prefer a Mazda MX5 for Bokor, but then I’ve never really liked Porsche...apart from that Turbo one for sale!
I’ve seen a few people advertising it. Is it owned by a German guy who fixes bikes?
As I said many times I would never drive anything but an AWD sport car in Cambodia.
RWD are controllable if you know the car.
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You might be right about RMS and turbos.Barang_doa_slae wrote:I read somewhere that the RMS leak issue wasn’t concerning turbos models but if it is it must indeed be addressed preventively as aIt can lead to a catastrophic engine failure.Petrol Head wrote:I have been eyeing off 911s lately but not quite packing your budget - mostly 996s for me. The 911 is the most rational vehicle you can buy. They are fuel efficient for a sports car, very reliable and hold their value like no other. You cannot buy one of any age in Australia under $35k.Barang_doa_slae wrote:I have my eyes on a nice 997 turbo.
Low mileage, my favorite color, never crashed or abused but I will have a Porsche inspection done anyway.
Actually my main concern is it is a first generation auto (tiptronic) and I fear it will feel numb compare to my modded sti.
Any advice from the forum petrol heads or from Petrolhead himself?
Biggest problem is that bloody RMS leak which requires the mechanic to drop the engine out. Most who buy a 996 or 997 do this as a preventative maintenance measure if not already indicated in the log book.
I’d avoid convertibles and tiptronic versions if you want to ride the ever increasing Porsche resale value wave - especially strong in turbo variants. Purists chase manual hardtops.
Otherwise you can’t go wrong with a 911 if you can afford to run it.
As you said I really wished it was a manual or a second gen PDK. On the other hand price is the same as in the US, my wife will be able to drive it (or not ) and one can do a mod to add newer palet to replace the stupids + and - wheel buttons.
I’m actually working with an ex Porsche mechanic at the moment and he concurrs that the RMS issues aside, 997s are sturdy.
Cayennes on the other hand... unexplained fires were common in Mk1s apparently. So too, sudden losses of power on the highway. All the German brands (probably all brands) have secret black ops dudes they fly over to investigate catastrophic failures like the above on the downlow. The grease monkey reckons it got so bad that orders came down from on high to collect affected Cayennes in closed trailers, exclusively.
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