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Yeah, I think learning to drive 16 ton trucks helped me be a better driver. Had to do defensive driving course and when driving anything big, you're always looking 1-2 sets of lights ahead and learn to anticipate accidents rather than react to them. After a while of doing that, motorcycles and cars suddenly feel like they can stop on a dime.
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Yes definitely must help. Except that locals can spend their entire life driving pieces of junk for very little result. If it was that easy I would petition the authorities to swap powerful cars from local drivers during a few months for beat up Camerys...
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I can totally relate to that as well. It’s also a good tropo marker when you hear yourself swearing exclusively in Khmer language.ricecakes wrote: Also.....be able to swear like a miner helps alot too.
Yes.LexusSchmexus wrote:Yeah, I think learning to drive 16 ton trucks helped me be a better driver. Had to do defensive driving course and when driving anything big, you're always looking 1-2 sets of lights ahead and learn to anticipate accidents rather than react to them. After a while of doing that, motorcycles and cars suddenly feel like they can stop on a dime.
I passed my C+E (semi truck) licence in the 90s and you do have a different perspective on driving. I also have my A big bike license too and that’s also a different driving perspective.
I do like riding here. It’s chaotic but fun. Much like London but there’s less chance of me being stabbed here.
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When I first moved here I had a car and driver for at least a year. It was certainly conviennent enough, and it is nice to be able to get work done in the back or sleep, etc. One of the biggest pluses is to not have to worry about parking wherever you go, as you just get dropped off in front of wherever you go and then get picked up from there.
But then I started driving myself, and am glad I did. Of course not a day goes by where you don’t find yourself going “what the fuckkkkkkk” or screaming whatever curse word in whatever language pops into your head first. But actually, I quite enjoy driving here, not having to worry about things like lanes or stop lights or the such. It’s really quite a freedom. I drive all around the city every day, and enjoy the air con and my Spotify playlists. Of course it’s slower than a moto, but you get to know which ways to go to best avoid traffic, and driving techniques to get your way through. I like the freedom of having my own car and being able to pop all around, and of course it’s great for weekend trips. I hardly use the driver anymore, except for certain dinners out, airport drop offs, and when I’m feeling particularly lazy.
But then I started driving myself, and am glad I did. Of course not a day goes by where you don’t find yourself going “what the fuckkkkkkk” or screaming whatever curse word in whatever language pops into your head first. But actually, I quite enjoy driving here, not having to worry about things like lanes or stop lights or the such. It’s really quite a freedom. I drive all around the city every day, and enjoy the air con and my Spotify playlists. Of course it’s slower than a moto, but you get to know which ways to go to best avoid traffic, and driving techniques to get your way through. I like the freedom of having my own car and being able to pop all around, and of course it’s great for weekend trips. I hardly use the driver anymore, except for certain dinners out, airport drop offs, and when I’m feeling particularly lazy.
There’s the problem right there!Miguelito wrote: ....Of course not a day goes by where you don’t find yourself going “what the fuckkkkkkk” or screaming whatever curse word in whatever language pops into your head first.....
....But actually, I quite enjoy driving here, not having to worry about things like lanes or stop lights or the such....
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Yea, it’s a bit of a double edged sword. It’s normally the motos or Tuk tuks that barre into oncoming traffic or do a sudden u-turn in the middle of the street without looking that boggles my mind.YaTingPom wrote:There’s the problem right there!Miguelito wrote: ....Of course not a day goes by where you don’t find yourself going “what the fuckkkkkkk” or screaming whatever curse word in whatever language pops into your head first.....
....But actually, I quite enjoy driving here, not having to worry about things like lanes or stop lights or the such....
Going through traffic in a decent car with aircon, stereo etc isn't as bad as I think non-car-drivers imagine it. Being stuck at a junction in the midday sun on a moto breathing in fumes isn't very nice, it's not as bad in a car.
Agree with a lot of Spigzy's comment, but why not do it on a decent bicycle, it's more fun and good exercise? Although I suppose you'd need a shower at work to freshen up on arrival.
Agree with a lot of Spigzy's comment, but why not do it on a decent bicycle, it's more fun and good exercise? Although I suppose you'd need a shower at work to freshen up on arrival.
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Also depends what you drive.
A 10 year old Lexus 470 is unlikely to pull out in front of a brand new Porsche or Lexus 570. If you drive a shitbox like I do even cyclists think they have the right of way!
My little moto has a big 120db airhorn hidden away so people tend to think twice, both cars and other motos.
A 10 year old Lexus 470 is unlikely to pull out in front of a brand new Porsche or Lexus 570. If you drive a shitbox like I do even cyclists think they have the right of way!
My little moto has a big 120db airhorn hidden away so people tend to think twice, both cars and other motos.
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I have a 2016 Ford Everest with only 20,000 km on it. Legit from the showroom (not grey market). It's just been depreciating on my books each month, so I can sell it for a very decent price - $40,000 (which is inclusive of all taxes). It is a manual, which I quite like, but might not be for everyone. Send me a PM if you're interested, or post any questions here. I haven't listed it anywhere yet but with the new year starting I was thinking it was time to sell.
I posted in this thread as I think this car is worth a lot more than that (especially when new Everests are going for twice that), but the second hand car market here is so opaque it's hard to tell.
I posted in this thread as I think this car is worth a lot more than that (especially when new Everests are going for twice that), but the second hand car market here is so opaque it's hard to tell.
Aren’t they all made in Thailand or China?
God, isn’t everything made in China. Even my wife is half Chinese!
God, isn’t everything made in China. Even my wife is half Chinese!
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Does that make a difference? My iPhone was made in China.YaTingPom wrote:Aren’t they all made in Thailand or China?
God, isn’t everything made in China. Even my wife is half Chinese!
But I think these cars might be from Turkey, or possibly made elsewhere but assembled in Thailand. Not fully sure but can find out.
Doesn’t make any difference.Karcher Cambodia wrote:Does that make a difference? My iPhone was made in China.YaTingPom wrote:Aren’t they all made in Thailand or China?
God, isn’t everything made in China. Even my wife is half Chinese!
But I think these cars might be from Turkey, or possibly made elsewhere but assembled in Thailand. Not fully sure but can find out.
It was in reference to your “grey market” comment. If someone imported one privately it’d come from the same factory that Ford Cambodia gets them. Grey market to me means a car not officially imported or of a different specification than the officially imported ones.
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There are actually three types of businesses selling cars:YaTingPom wrote:Doesn’t make any difference.Karcher Cambodia wrote:Does that make a difference? My iPhone was made in China.YaTingPom wrote:Aren’t they all made in Thailand or China?
God, isn’t everything made in China. Even my wife is half Chinese!
But I think these cars might be from Turkey, or possibly made elsewhere but assembled in Thailand. Not fully sure but can find out.
It was in reference to your “grey market” comment. If someone imported one privately it’d come from the same factory that Ford Cambodia gets them. Grey market to me means a car not officially imported or of a different specification than the officially imported ones.
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1. Authorized distributors who pay the required import tariffs and VAT and sell only cars that are appropriate for the Cambodian market.
2. Second-hand dealers of legitimately-imported used cars, or cars imported as new and subsequently sold by the original owner. The VAT compliance of these vendors is variable.
3. ‘Grey market’ dealers selling unofficially imported second-hand cars or cars rebuilt from scrap parts. These vendors contribute little if any taxes to the Royal Government and, furthermore, put unsuitable cars onto Cambodian roads.
" (From the Eurocham White book)
I think I heard 83% of automobile imports were "used", which is what grey importers categorize even their brand new cars as. There are several problems here:
1) Cambodia has the weakest standards in all of ASEAN for inspections of used vehicles, with just a superficial vehicle check being all that is required to meet any sort of safety standards.
2) These used cars being imported could be: Insurance write-offs (through such things as being totaled in an accident or flood damage), stolen cars, or cars not suitable for the market (for instance, a car that require Diesel Euro 6 which is unavailable here). Furthermore, grey dealers are notorious for rolling back the odometers on cars.
3) In 2014, passenger cars and commercial vehicles accounted for 23% of the value of all imports into Cambodia and generated over 250 million USD in tax revenues. As a matter of purpose, the grey market is circumventing this, making it more financially difficult for legitimate dealers to make a profit, and driving up costs for everyone. This might not affect your personal choice in purchasing a car, but it is an issue for the country.
In short, I would personally not buy a grey market car, at least not without an extensive (and verified) vehicle history. But you won't get that with a grey market...