Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

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Postby keeping_it_riel » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:44 pm

barangdave wrote:No, very true. However, I don't think we should take a small town human interest story too seriously. No doubt it was prompted by a call for help from his partner, and there probably weren't enough lost dogs to fill the available space this week.

http://www.lodinews.com/classifieds/community/announcements/lost/


Do you think she'll be any less of a biased, unobjective libtard when she eventually gets a break and finds a bigger audience?

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Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby barangdave » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:45 pm

I think it's tough on the kids, but I don't understand why he's dossing around in the village and not trying to get an job as an English teacher. Most other countries would do the same, Clifford Tucker springs to mind http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13125362 sent back to the UK after 40 yrs in Oz. The UK has looked to strip high profile criminals of citizenship before now- Anna Chapman & Abu Hamza (failed) spring to mind. He should just get a job, do some charity work in his spare time and get ready to beg for his passport back in a few years time.
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Re: Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby barangdave » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:56 pm

keeping_it_riel wrote:Do you think she'll be any less of a biased, unobjective libtard when she eventually gets a break and finds a bigger audience?


Maybe when she hasn't got a gangbanger's common law wife and kids who shop at the same stores as her coming to the office asking for her help.

Isn't journalism all about bias rather than objectivity? It seems to be if you want to make real money- it certainly works for Rush Limbaugh! Ignoring the rights of the family and going for the throat of the perp seems pretty biased as well to me.
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Re: Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby LTO » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:04 pm

barangdave wrote:...Isn't journalism all about bias rather than objectivity? It seems to be if you want to make real money- it certainly works for Rush Limbaugh! Ignoring the rights of the family and going for the throat of the perp seems pretty biased as well to me.

No. Editorializing is. Granted, no journalism is without bias, even if unintentional. But objectivity is still the ideal, even if its perfect realization is impossible. Yes, some journalists are more biased than others, but I don't think that Limbaugh ever even pretended to be an unbiased journalist. Perhaps FOX 'News' would have been a better example of an editorial department pretending to be a news department.

And in this particular case, she didn't just add some personal slant of her own for the home town paper, but hit on many of the same points, in much the same way as other articles in the MSM over the past several years. She clearly did her research.
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Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby giblet » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:13 pm

Do you guys feel more sympathetic to those who have been deported for relatively low-level offenses as opposed to gang-related offenses?
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Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby jm » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:25 pm

Everybody's got a story.

Unfortunately the Cambodian community still has more than its share of thugs. Elder abuse?

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?secti ... id=8312518
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Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby LTO » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:47 pm

giblet wrote:Do you guys feel more sympathetic to those who have been deported for relatively low-level offenses as opposed to gang-related offenses?

What's a "low level offense"? Examples please.
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Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby SunSan » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:54 pm

Cry me a river...
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Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby giblet » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:10 pm

LTO wrote:
giblet wrote:Do you guys feel more sympathetic to those who have been deported for relatively low-level offenses as opposed to gang-related offenses?

What's a "low level offense"? Examples please.


I read about one guy who was deported for urinating at the construction site that he was working at. I also consider possession of marijuana a low-level offense, but I am sure some would disagree.
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Re: Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby keeping_it_riel » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:15 pm

giblet wrote:
LTO wrote:
giblet wrote:Do you guys feel more sympathetic to those who have been deported for relatively low-level offenses as opposed to gang-related offenses?

What's a "low level offense"? Examples please.


I read about one guy who was deported for urinating at the construction site. I also consider possession of marijuana a low-level offense, but I am sure some would disagree.


The 'deported for pissing at the site' thing sounds like a liberal folk myth to me. Do you have proof?

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Re: Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby giblet » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:24 pm

keeping_it_riel wrote:The 'deported for pissing at the site' thing sounds like a liberal folk myth to me. Do you have proof?


Like, was I there with a camcorder? No. But it was widely reported. His name is Sor Vann and he was living in Houston.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/09/world ... rican.html
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Re: Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby barangdave » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:40 pm

LTO wrote:
barangdave wrote:...Isn't journalism all about bias rather than objectivity? It seems to be if you want to make real money- it certainly works for Rush Limbaugh! Ignoring the rights of the family and going for the throat of the perp seems pretty biased as well to me.

No. Editorializing is. Granted, no journalism is without bias, even if unintentional. But objectivity is still the ideal, even if its perfect realization is impossible. Yes, some journalists are more biased than others, but I don't think that Limbaugh ever even pretended to be an unbiased journalist. Perhaps FOX 'News' would have been a better example of an editorial department pretending to be a news department.

And in this particular case, she didn't just add some personal slant of her own for the home town paper, but hit on many of the same points, in much the same way as other articles in the MSM over the past several years. She clearly did her research.


I think we've moved a long way from attempting objectivity in journalism, especially in the States. People expect to pick up their paper or turn on their news station and read/watch a story written from their point of view. It's not a good thing, but it's the way of the world, and it's getting worse. I can't think of a single paper in the UK which doesn't have a world-view running though the narrative of at least most of the articles.

Hypocrisy in the right wing always amuses me. Limbaugh, for example, attacks the decay of traditional values, but has been married four times and was addicted to drugs. How many users of this site would have been extradited to their countries of origin long ago if Cambodia had an effective criminal justice system and could tackle, for example, the users of drugs and prostitutes?
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Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby BirdBrain » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:43 pm

How many users of this site would have been extradited to their countries of origin long ago if Cambodia had an effective criminal justice system and could tackle, for example, the users of drugs and prostitutes?
Well, Vladimir would have been long gone...
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Re: Re: Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby keeping_it_riel » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:43 pm

giblet wrote:
keeping_it_riel wrote:The 'deported for pissing at the site' thing sounds like a liberal folk myth to me. Do you have proof?


Like, was I there with a camcorder? No. But it was widely reported. His name is Sor Vann and he was living in Houston.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/09/world ... rican.html


The only thing I'd trust the NYT to get right is the date on the front page.

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Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby Visser » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:47 pm

From that link:

Some, like Touch Rin Svay, 22, a United States Marine in Portland, Me., were born in the refugee camps in Thailand and had never even seen Cambodia. In May, he was convicted of manslaughter for causing an automobile crash, while driving drunk, that killed his younger sister.

Once he completes a term of 18 months in prison, he will join the deportation list. Immigration experts say it is unlikely that he will ever be allowed to re-enter the United States.


So foreigners are allowed to enlist in the marines and fight wars but they still have the chance to be kicked out o the country for stealing a candybar?

Pretty fucked up if you ask me.
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