Death stalks the Walkabout
Actually, not irate. People have many ways of processing their own fear of death, and kir's reaction is not uncommon. It's a way of convincing himself that it isn't going to happen to him.
I am grateful for the humanity displayed by members of the forum. People in my family have an unfortunate habit of dropping dead completely unexpectedly, so I suppose I should be used to it, but all that practise doesn't make it any easier to cope with it.
There is one thing which I would like to know which somebody may be able to answer; the adverts for the Walkabout Hotel show a pool table. Is it any good? My brother and I played a lot of pool together...
I am grateful for the humanity displayed by members of the forum. People in my family have an unfortunate habit of dropping dead completely unexpectedly, so I suppose I should be used to it, but all that practise doesn't make it any easier to cope with it.
There is one thing which I would like to know which somebody may be able to answer; the adverts for the Walkabout Hotel show a pool table. Is it any good? My brother and I played a lot of pool together...
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Sorry for your loss, Dice. By the way, the mere fact the Cambodian press calls your brother's death a drug overdose doesn't mean it's so. They label all deaths of Westerners as heart attack or drug overdose. He could have just drank himself to death in a respectable manner.
And this will totally happen to KiR. He's already been living in Cambodia for over 10 years. It takes a toll on a guy. I'd say it's a toss up whether KiR lives another ten.
And this will totally happen to KiR. He's already been living in Cambodia for over 10 years. It takes a toll on a guy. I'd say it's a toss up whether KiR lives another ten.
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Maybe.gavinmac wrote:Sorry for your loss, Dice. By the way, the mere fact the Cambodian press calls your brother's death a drug overdose doesn't mean it's so. They label all deaths of Westerners as heart attack or drug overdose. He could have just drank himself to death in a respectable manner.
And this will totally happen to KiR. He's already been living in Cambodia for over 10 years. It takes a toll on a guy. I'd say it's a toss up whether KiR lives another ten.
But I'm drug free these days, only enjoy a tipple at weekends and I don't hang around the Walkabout chasing crack whores. Or whores anywhere else as we're on the subject.
I think that reduces my own risk factors a little, eh?
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three tables...the two upstairs are pretty shit and the one downstairs is ok (as of last year when i last visited)....they've traditionally had a pool comp on tuesdays...Dice wrote:There is one thing which I would like to know which somebody may be able to answer; the adverts for the Walkabout Hotel show a pool table. Is it any good? My brother and I played a lot of pool together...
disregard the cynicism...
rip
He's been in his room 35 years...time to let him out!
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On the subject of death and as I'm home and waiting a few hours for the soccer to start, I'll share a few personal thoughts in no particular order and as a stream of consciousness.
The thoughts btw apply to male expats really so feel free to switch off if you don't have a hairy arse.
1) I feel many of us make a pact when we move here and that is a knowing acceptance that we won't make old bones. It's a trade off. Simply don't move here if you want to live to advanced old age. Khmers don't, and neither do we.
2) Face up to the fact that this is not a nanny state. No one will tell you when to go home and stop drinking or when you can buy or not buy beer or send a social worker around or put you on a rehab or any of that. If you want to get blasted 24 hours a day and you have the money then you can do it indefinitely.
Conversely
4) There is no safety net and no one to catch you when you fall except other expats like you who tend to be non judgmental, freethinkers like yourself and generally won't get involved .
Consequently
5) The biggest danger is what I call 'old boy syndrome' which is the put simply the phenomenon of guys of 40/50/60 being mentally unable to handle the freedoms they have here and boozing, whoring, drugging, staying out all night and every night in a way that teenage bodies can deal with but which middle aged bodies can't. Eventually, their vital organs just conk out being unable to cope with the hammering they are getting. This I've seen again and again and gain here.
So
6) You need some discipline. Let me be candid here and say that if I didn't work, I'd be dead already. Therefore I have a job that gets me out of bed not so long after dawn and necessitates me being in bed before midnight. Call me boring but I don't hit the piss on weekday nights and even on weekend nights when I do some bar hopping, it's rare that I'm out after midnight.
Why do I regulate my life like this? Because after living here over 10 years I can count about 20 expats I've know personally who are now dead and would still be alive if they'd made different lifestyle choices.
I did all that wild hedonistic stuff (which I admit was thoroughly enjoyable) for 2 or 3 years after arriving here and then again for a full lost year between 06 and 07 and if I hadn't pulled my shit together, I'd definitely be dead now with those 20 lost souls. For sure.
So guys, you make your own decisions but this is my own risk reduction strategy and I'm sticking with it. And one thing is sure, you won't find me dead in a room at the Walkabout.
The thoughts btw apply to male expats really so feel free to switch off if you don't have a hairy arse.
1) I feel many of us make a pact when we move here and that is a knowing acceptance that we won't make old bones. It's a trade off. Simply don't move here if you want to live to advanced old age. Khmers don't, and neither do we.
2) Face up to the fact that this is not a nanny state. No one will tell you when to go home and stop drinking or when you can buy or not buy beer or send a social worker around or put you on a rehab or any of that. If you want to get blasted 24 hours a day and you have the money then you can do it indefinitely.
Conversely
4) There is no safety net and no one to catch you when you fall except other expats like you who tend to be non judgmental, freethinkers like yourself and generally won't get involved .
Consequently
5) The biggest danger is what I call 'old boy syndrome' which is the put simply the phenomenon of guys of 40/50/60 being mentally unable to handle the freedoms they have here and boozing, whoring, drugging, staying out all night and every night in a way that teenage bodies can deal with but which middle aged bodies can't. Eventually, their vital organs just conk out being unable to cope with the hammering they are getting. This I've seen again and again and gain here.
So
6) You need some discipline. Let me be candid here and say that if I didn't work, I'd be dead already. Therefore I have a job that gets me out of bed not so long after dawn and necessitates me being in bed before midnight. Call me boring but I don't hit the piss on weekday nights and even on weekend nights when I do some bar hopping, it's rare that I'm out after midnight.
Why do I regulate my life like this? Because after living here over 10 years I can count about 20 expats I've know personally who are now dead and would still be alive if they'd made different lifestyle choices.
I did all that wild hedonistic stuff (which I admit was thoroughly enjoyable) for 2 or 3 years after arriving here and then again for a full lost year between 06 and 07 and if I hadn't pulled my shit together, I'd definitely be dead now with those 20 lost souls. For sure.
So guys, you make your own decisions but this is my own risk reduction strategy and I'm sticking with it. And one thing is sure, you won't find me dead in a room at the Walkabout.
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Not really, you just increased your chances of dying of boredom...keeping_it_riel wrote:Maybe.gavinmac wrote:Sorry for your loss, Dice. By the way, the mere fact the Cambodian press calls your brother's death a drug overdose doesn't mean it's so. They label all deaths of Westerners as heart attack or drug overdose. He could have just drank himself to death in a respectable manner.
And this will totally happen to KiR. He's already been living in Cambodia for over 10 years. It takes a toll on a guy. I'd say it's a toss up whether KiR lives another ten.
But I'm drug free these days, only enjoy a tipple at weekends and I don't hang around the Walkabout chasing crack whores. Or whores anywhere else as we're on the subject.
I think that reduces my own risk factors a little, eh?
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Where is the god of tits and wine?
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This.keeping_it_riel wrote:On the subject of death and as I'm home and waiting a few hours for the soccer to start, I'll share a few personal thoughts in no particular order and as a stream of consciousness.
The thoughts btw apply to male expats really so feel free to switch off if you don't have a hairy arse.
1) I feel many of us make a pact when we move here and that is a knowing acceptance that we won't make old bones. It's a trade off. Simply don't move here if you want to live to advanced old age. Khmers don't, and neither do we.
2) Face up to the fact that this is not a nanny state. No one will tell you when to go home and stop drinking or when you can buy or not buy beer or send a social worker around or put you on a rehab or any of that. If you want to get blasted 24 hours a day and you have the money then you can do it indefinitely.
Conversely
4) There is no safety net and no one to catch you when you fall except other expats like you who tend to be non judgmental, freethinkers like yourself and generally won't get involved .
Consequently
5) The biggest danger is what I call 'old boy syndrome' which is the put simply the phenomenon of guys of 40/50/60 being mentally unable to handle the freedoms they have here and boozing, whoring, drugging, staying out all night and every night in a way that teenage bodies can deal with but which middle aged bodies can't. Eventually, their vital organs just conk out being unable to cope with the hammering they are getting. This I've seen again and again and gain here.
So
6) You need some discipline. Let me be candid here and say that if I didn't work, I'd be dead already. Therefore I have a job that gets me out of bed not so long after dawn and necessitates me being in bed before midnight. Call me boring but I don't hit the piss on weekday nights and even on weekend nights when I do some bar hopping, it's rare that I'm out after midnight.
Why do I regulate my life like this? Because after living here over 10 years I can count about 20 expats I've know personally who are now dead and would still be alive if they'd made different lifestyle choices.
I did all that wild hedonistic stuff (which I admit was thoroughly enjoyable) for 2 or 3 years after arriving here and then again for a full lost year between 06 and 07 and if I hadn't pulled my shit together, I'd definitely be dead now with those 20 lost souls. For sure.
So guys, you make your own decisions but this is my own risk reduction strategy and I'm sticking with it. And one thing is sure, you won't find me dead in a room at the Walkabout.
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An uncanny reflection of my experiences and lifestyle too.
I came, I argued, I'm out
Thanks Gavinmac and badboybubby. I'm grateful for your kindness, and I'm going to have a gin and tonic in honour of it!
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----well expressed, KiR... make it a sticky perhaps and add a few thoughts for tourists re night-time robbery?
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Hi
Having had the gin and tonic, plus dinner, I wanted to add that we are being told that my brother had a heart attack. Presumably the Consulate didn't feel that he fitted into the overdose plus crack whores demographic, and as Gavinmac has kindly explained those are the only two options available.
Our mother died in a doctor's waiting room, waiting for a lift home with a friend, five minutes after the gp had assured her that the pains in her chest and arm were psychological in origin.
By comparison his heart attack in a somewhat dodgy hotel in Cambodia seems positively normal, and I am comforted by the fact that there was a decent pool table in the vic inity; it's exactly the sort of thing which Mike would have thought a great deal more important than the presence, or absence, of whores of whatever variety.
After all, everybody dies but crappy pool tables are a cruel and unusual punishment; should I ever make it across the 6,000 miles between London and Cambodia I will check with you on which hotel I should book. And thank you once again; I very much hope that you will all avoid the pitfalls of expat life and have a great time...
Having had the gin and tonic, plus dinner, I wanted to add that we are being told that my brother had a heart attack. Presumably the Consulate didn't feel that he fitted into the overdose plus crack whores demographic, and as Gavinmac has kindly explained those are the only two options available.
Our mother died in a doctor's waiting room, waiting for a lift home with a friend, five minutes after the gp had assured her that the pains in her chest and arm were psychological in origin.
By comparison his heart attack in a somewhat dodgy hotel in Cambodia seems positively normal, and I am comforted by the fact that there was a decent pool table in the vic inity; it's exactly the sort of thing which Mike would have thought a great deal more important than the presence, or absence, of whores of whatever variety.
After all, everybody dies but crappy pool tables are a cruel and unusual punishment; should I ever make it across the 6,000 miles between London and Cambodia I will check with you on which hotel I should book. And thank you once again; I very much hope that you will all avoid the pitfalls of expat life and have a great time...
keeping_it_riel wrote:....
1) I feel many of us make a pact when we move here and that is a knowing acceptance that we won't make old bones. It's a trade off. Simply don't move here if you want to live to advanced old age. Khmers don't, and neither do we.
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Amen. Live young, die young!
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