Perhaps perhaps maybe maybe. Sometimes.violet wrote:yeah, 'cos really most suicidal people are so outward looking and concerned about everyone around them. The amount of empathy residing in a person determines how they view a person who does something like this. Some see a selfish person, some see a person not worthy of respect, and some have compassion and empathy and see a person in pain (or having a drug-induced experience).LoneStar wrote:Khmers are fascinated by death. If that is bothersome, you might consider living someplace else. No reason to let cultural differences get under your skin.
It appears this guy chose to take his life in a public setting without regard for anyone else. I don't think he deserves any respect.
By the nature of a suicidal mind, a suicidal individual is fighting to keep a grip and is focussed inward. That can be thought of as selfish, but that isn't looking at the full picture.
What drives a person to do this in a public place that may harm others? Perhaps the suicidal person is making a last desperate attempt to be seen by the world. Perhaps they felt alone in their darkness, cut off from everyone around them, and that people weren't seeing their pain. It could also be that he felt anger at not being seen/heard, but the emotion behind anger is pain. So, personally, I don't see selfishness as the core element here, but desperate pain.
Sometimes, all that keeps a person from actually committing suicide is the very fact they are not selfish.... they don't want to bring pain to someone left behind. I think another word should be used in the place of selfish to describe the state of mind of a person who is in such a painful place that they choose to go against the human instinct to survive at all costs, and kill themselves. maybe such a word exists, maybe we could do with coming up with a word for it.
Maybe this guy was making a last attempt to be seen by the world he felt cut off from, or maybe he was just freaking out on drugs and thought he could fly or that he had to flee some unknown pursuer.
either way. RIP
At the end of the day, if you want to kill yourself, fine kill yourself.
But f**cking kill yourself! If you can't even end your own life, what can you do???
All those people with half-ass attempts supposedly are not wanting to kill themselves, they supposedly are crying out for help. How socially retarded and dysfunctional must one be to communicate in this way? And what is the answer to a request formulated in this way? For those that want to help, it could end up in a game of emotional blackmail. Nice...
If you can't run with the pack, find a place for yourself. If not, enter Darwin.
And yes, killing yourself and taking others with you/ letting your friends or family find you to clean up your mess after you, is extremely selfish. Because you have a problem, but your solution is to end your problem and create a problem for those you love, or innocent bystanders.
Harsh, yes. Cynical, yes. Realistic, yes. Tough love. That is me.