Saw the pics repeated endlessly on the TV news this morning. The car had the windscreen stoved in so it was obviously quite high speed. Much more damage than to the car Luna hit.
The father had a bloodied head as did the infant in nappies. How a baby would survive the trauma I don't know. Don't we see adults with helmets and kids without all the time?
Mini-cooper collides with motorbike, father and infant son gravely injured
They don't need a Lexus, they just need a helmet . They can be had for $20 - a lot less than the bike they're riding or the phone in their pocket.
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It's because they're brown, alan, no way the fact that they can't afford a helmet, or a lack of education could come into it. Or the fantastic critical thinking aspect of local school curricula, or the overwhelming care the govt consistently show. Nah.alanclarke72 wrote:Is it genuine lack of education or, as i suspect, merely the fact that they don't care very much?
I can't believe it's the former. You don't need to be educated or told that carrying a baby at 40km on busy roads is idiotic do you? Which leaves the uncomfortable latter as a possible reason. It's frightening.
In fact, it was probably pre-meditated, thanks for your perceptive input.
ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.
Or the mindboggling habit of riding a bike with one hand and holding your baby on your lap with the other....Playboy wrote:The 1,500 Khmer girls in my FaceBook feed are all weepy and outraged by this, they all seem to be hoping the 'killer' is punished and severely.
Not one of them has mentioned crash helmets ...
Meh. Something witty.
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vladimir wrote:It's because they're brown, alan, no way the fact that they can't afford a helmet, or a lack of education could come into it. Or the fantastic critical thinking aspect of local school curricula, or the overwhelming care the govt consistently show. Nah.alanclarke72 wrote:Is it genuine lack of education or, as i suspect, merely the fact that they don't care very much?
I can't believe it's the former. You don't need to be educated or told that carrying a baby at 40km on busy roads is idiotic do you? Which leaves the uncomfortable latter as a possible reason. It's frightening.
In fact, it was probably pre-meditated, thanks for your perceptive input.
This coming from the guy who regularly labels Cambodians as monkeys.
The fact is they show criminal disregard for their children by carrying them on bikes with no protection. You can't blame education or the government for that. It shouldn't be necessary to educate parents about the fucking obvious. As someone else said a helmet costs much less than their mobile phones or they bike they are using to put their child in mortal danger.
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alan, I suggest you find said posts, count them, check the last time it happened, and then do some re-thinking. And maybe check teh meaning of the word 'regularly'.alanclarke72 wrote:This coming from the guy who regularly labels Cambodians as monkeys.
The fact is they show criminal disregard for their children by carrying them on bikes with no protection. You can't blame education or the government for that. It shouldn't be necessary to educate parents about the fucking obvious. As someone else said a helmet costs much less than their mobile phones or they bike they are using to put their child in mortal danger.
You assume that they don't care, you insinuate that maybe they don't give a poop if a child dies. Are you serious? What kind of view must you have of them to even consider that? Perhaps they are just like animals, right?
You attended a school in England, right? What exactly qualifies you to decide what needs educating about wrt the Cambodian public? Do you have any experience of the system? Do you have any academic qualification which prepares/qualifies you to state that?
I suggest you contact Handicap International and read some of the reports detailing the list of reasons they don't wear/buy helmets.
Suggesting they don't care about their children's lives is the kind of colonial mentality we should all rid ourselves of.
I hear that all poor people just like being poor, too.
ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.
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Only one of us has ever referred to Cambodians as animals vlad. Just because you haven't done it for a while doesn't negate the fact that you had a habit of calling them monkeys and only stopped when posters labeled you a racist. It's odd because just this week you have again been labeled a racist by the normally mild-mannered scoffer for your blatant anti-semitism, a trait that curiously only you fail to see in yourself.
But let's put that aside.
What is this nonsense about the education system? It doesn't need an education system - either good or bad - for a parent to know it's dangerous to carry a baby or two on a bike with no protection. There is simply no excuse. It shows complete disregard for their child's safety and nothing assuages that.
Don't give me crap about rationalizing reasons or excuses like poverty. If someone can afford a bike, they can afford a few extra bucks to protect their fucking children. To not bother shows indifference to that child's wellbeing.
But let's put that aside.
What is this nonsense about the education system? It doesn't need an education system - either good or bad - for a parent to know it's dangerous to carry a baby or two on a bike with no protection. There is simply no excuse. It shows complete disregard for their child's safety and nothing assuages that.
Don't give me crap about rationalizing reasons or excuses like poverty. If someone can afford a bike, they can afford a few extra bucks to protect their fucking children. To not bother shows indifference to that child's wellbeing.
It's "MINI". Mini is the original one not the BMW abomination.
Anyhoo. We are in SE Asia. This shit happens a lot.
Don't ask why. It just is.
Anyhoo. We are in SE Asia. This shit happens a lot.
Don't ask why. It just is.
pew, pew, pew, pew!
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alan, you were born and brought up in a system that not only tolerates logic and critical thinking, but actively encourages it. I think you don't realise the manifestations of that. We were taught road safety from before school. afaik it has only recently been introduced here.alanclarke72 wrote:What is this nonsense about the education system? It doesn't need an education system - either good or bad - for a parent to know it's dangerous to carry a baby or two on a bike with no protection. There is simply no excuse. It shows complete disregard for their child's safety and nothing assuages that.
Don't give me crap about rationalizing reasons or excuses like poverty. If someone can afford a bike, they can afford a few extra bucks to protect their fucking children. To not bother shows indifference to that child's wellbeing.
Expats here assume that what we deduce from a cue must be universal, they could not be more wrong.
wrt my ' regularly' calling Khmers monkeys, I called some guys who were laughing at a guy who had committed suicide by jumping from abridge monkeys. I think it was deserved. I also think Donald Trump, (a 'whitey' if ever there was one, LOL) is a monkey and a couple of posters on here, whose colour I have no idea of.
So no, let's not put it aside. I call idiots who act deliberately mischievously monkeys, regardless of race. I think President Zuma is a monkey, I also think Tony Abbott is one. I understand why some might think it's offensive, but I don't live my life or choose my expression based on what other people misinterpret.
YOu may reply that I should understand why it's offensive, but that would mean that you think dark people must look like monkeys to everyone. There are a shit load of honies, rednecks and bogans running round who look more like monkeys, imo. The derivation from physical characteristics doesn't work for me, so..ciao. Mine is based purely on behaviour.
I totally agree that EVERYONE should wear a crash helmet when riding a bike, btw, and I support the police 100% in their efforts to achieve this, regardless of their motive. It's going to take time, you're dealing with a society that deliberately had any thinking person murdered, many are still very poor and very uneducated, and the education system has still not been overhauled to encourage critical thinking/ logic.
ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.
Some bikers don't wear helmets in some states in the USA.
The most modern first world country there is.
The most modern first world country there is.
pew, pew, pew, pew!
Neither bike or moto helmets are compulsory in many US states. It would interfere with some ancient amendment written by old white men a few hundred years ago.
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So it's old white guy's fault for writing laws and following them? Are you opposed to rule of law, or the principle of legal precedent, or the 14th amendment, or just all laws written by whites?ken svay wrote:Neither bike or moto helmets are compulsory in many US states. It would interfere with some ancient amendment written by old white men a few hundred years ago.
Personally, I find rule of law and the 14th amendment kind of important. I am generally in favor of helmet laws and do not think the freedom to ride without a helmet necessarily follows from the 14th amendment, (as the argument usually runs,) but abandoning rule of law, or all laws written by white men, or even just the anti-slavery 14th amendment would be worse.
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