A Canadian, Abby Gail Amisola, and a British Woman, Natalie Jade Seymour, Dead in Kampot Monkey Republic
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It's ridiculous how many wild ideas are being floated around, I suspect just because they were young, attractive women. It's likely they took a bunch of tranquilizers/ painkillers with alcohol.
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Wasn’t being a sleuth....just posted the thought that popped into my head.gavinmac wrote:Since when do crappy Kampot hostels have air conditioning (and run it in November)?
I will say what I find weird is comments about how beautiful they are followed in the same sentence with ‘what a waste’ (not a different sentence), as though only the death of beautiful women is a waste. People will defend those sentences to themselves and to others but they provide insight into what is most valued.
Ask a woman if she would rather be stupid and beautiful or intelligent and plain..... or ask a guy which he would rather.... a stupid beautiful woman or a clever plain one.
Ask parents which they will miss more and ache over not being there....their daughter, plain or beautiful, stupid or clever.
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violet wrote:
I will say what I find weird is comments about how beautiful they are followed in the same sentence with ‘what a waste’ (not a different sentence), as though only the death of beautiful women is a waste. People will defend those sentences to themselves and to others but they provide insight into what is most valued.
The UK papers covering this are certainly including a lot of photos of Ms. Seymour in tight shirts accentuating her bosom.
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agree that the info from the policeman is sadly lacking. we want photos of the medicine packaging, and the place where they were bought. why being so vague when peoples lives are at stake. sure it may not be the cause but why risk the public not knowing well about any real possibilitiesStramash wrote:No idea if it actually reflects any information re the medications taken, but the Khmer Times story shows a picture of tramadol tablets. A senior police officer is quoted as saying “We found pills for headaches and dizziness at the scene,”
Even so, it would take a combination with something else (such as SSRIs) to normally lead to a fatal od unless they took a fairly large dose. If, to try and get a quicker effect, they had chewed, crushed, or snored tramadol, that could also offer an explanation. Tramadol OD can cause breathing issues, to the point that it can stop altogether.
http://www.khmertimeskh.com/5090584/for ... -overdose/
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Regardless of whether this turns out to be a drug overdose or not, I think it would be a good idea for this forum to have a sticky about how lethal heroin is here. But in an informative way, not a preachy way.
This site does pretty well in the search engine rankings for subjects on Cambodia, I think there is a high likelihood that a page on this site with some information about heroin use here could save the lives of the next people that score and are on Google as they aren't quite sure what to do with it.
Just a picture of a toothpick with a caption saying that for some people this is enough to kill. Then links to the news stories of the dozens of foreigners who OD here every year. If people want to do it, they are going to do it, but it might be enough to make them do some homework about dosing.
This site does pretty well in the search engine rankings for subjects on Cambodia, I think there is a high likelihood that a page on this site with some information about heroin use here could save the lives of the next people that score and are on Google as they aren't quite sure what to do with it.
Just a picture of a toothpick with a caption saying that for some people this is enough to kill. Then links to the news stories of the dozens of foreigners who OD here every year. If people want to do it, they are going to do it, but it might be enough to make them do some homework about dosing.
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Wasn't Kampot home to that merry band of barang synthetic peddlers. All those weird fringe drugs like GHB, passed off to tourists as ecstasy..?
Haha - my money’s on Playboy
Though this is a wonderful idea in practice, the Khmer authorities do not understand the concept of 'harm reduction'. When there were the two deaths last year, I wrote a lengthy harm reduction guide for both social media and for guesthouses. Within 2 days of it being published, the local police chief contacted the page admin and ordered them to take it down as they saw it as promoting drug use, despite it quite clearly doing the opposite.starkmonster wrote:Regardless of whether this turns out to be a drug overdose or not, I think it would be a good idea for this forum to have a sticky about how lethal heroin is here. But in an informative way, not a preachy way.
This site does pretty well in the search engine rankings for subjects on Cambodia, I think there is a high likelihood that a page on this site with some information about heroin use here could save the lives of the next people that score and are on Google as they aren't quite sure what to do with it.
Just a picture of a toothpick with a caption saying that for some people this is enough to kill. Then links to the news stories of the dozens of foreigners who OD here every year. If people want to do it, they are going to do it, but it might be enough to make them do some homework about dosing.
There is also no such thing as a specific lethal dose with heroin. It can affect every user differently, and OD risk can come from anything from the H being adulterated to the individual's own tolerance (or lack thereof)
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Well said.violet wrote:Wasn’t being a sleuth....just posted the thought that popped into my head.gavinmac wrote:Since when do crappy Kampot hostels have air conditioning (and run it in November)?
I will say what I find weird is comments about how beautiful they are followed in the same sentence with ‘what a waste’ (not a different sentence), as though only the death of beautiful women is a waste. People will defend those sentences to themselves and to others but they provide insight into what is most valued.
Ask a woman if she would rather be stupid and beautiful or intelligent and plain..... or ask a guy which he would rather.... a stupid beautiful woman or a clever plain one.
Ask parents which they will miss more and ache over not being there....their daughter, plain or beautiful, stupid or clever.
<grateful that my lack of beauty stops me from forming mindless sentences when people die>
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Fentanyl is added to it.crazyjohn wrote:I used to use heroin in Thailand. Snorted and smoked it, I think it was called number four. It was a white powder but I do remember seeing rocks. The deaths in Thailand were almost certainly from the insecticide.
Without autopsies in Cambodia we will never know. In the US huge numbers die from heroin, some imported Afghan but mostly Oxycotin. Why does it kill so many?
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I think you would have to be careful with a “harm reduction guide” if it instructs someone how to take drugs - this isn’t Portugal.Stramash wrote:Though this is a wonderful idea in practice, the Khmer authorities do not understand the concept of 'harm reduction'. When there were the two deaths last year, I wrote a lengthy harm reduction guide for both social media and for guesthouses. Within 2 days of it being published, the local police chief contacted the page admin and ordered them to take it down as they saw it as promoting drug use, despite it quite clearly doing the opposite.starkmonster wrote:Regardless of whether this turns out to be a drug overdose or not, I think it would be a good idea for this forum to have a sticky about how lethal heroin is here. But in an informative way, not a preachy way.
This site does pretty well in the search engine rankings for subjects on Cambodia, I think there is a high likelihood that a page on this site with some information about heroin use here could save the lives of the next people that score and are on Google as they aren't quite sure what to do with it.
Just a picture of a toothpick with a caption saying that for some people this is enough to kill. Then links to the news stories of the dozens of foreigners who OD here every year. If people want to do it, they are going to do it, but it might be enough to make them do some homework about dosing.
There is also no such thing as a specific lethal dose with heroin. It can affect every user differently, and OD risk can come from anything from the H being adulterated to the individual's own tolerance (or lack thereof)
But I’m not opposed to Starkmoster’s idea in theory. If he wished to write something up I’d be willing to take a look and consider posting it. PM if you’re interested.
That's the same uninformed view the local police took. Harm reduction does not have to mean instructing someone how to take drugs, nor is it something only done in Portugal *facepalm*.Miguelito wrote:I think you would have to be careful with a “harm reduction guide” if it instructs someone how to take drugs - this isn’t Portugal.Stramash wrote:Though this is a wonderful idea in practice, the Khmer authorities do not understand the concept of 'harm reduction'. When there were the two deaths last year, I wrote a lengthy harm reduction guide for both social media and for guesthouses. Within 2 days of it being published, the local police chief contacted the page admin and ordered them to take it down as they saw it as promoting drug use, despite it quite clearly doing the opposite.starkmonster wrote:Regardless of whether this turns out to be a drug overdose or not, I think it would be a good idea for this forum to have a sticky about how lethal heroin is here. But in an informative way, not a preachy way.
This site does pretty well in the search engine rankings for subjects on Cambodia, I think there is a high likelihood that a page on this site with some information about heroin use here could save the lives of the next people that score and are on Google as they aren't quite sure what to do with it.
Just a picture of a toothpick with a caption saying that for some people this is enough to kill. Then links to the news stories of the dozens of foreigners who OD here every year. If people want to do it, they are going to do it, but it might be enough to make them do some homework about dosing.
There is also no such thing as a specific lethal dose with heroin. It can affect every user differently, and OD risk can come from anything from the H being adulterated to the individual's own tolerance (or lack thereof)
“The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent.”
And just an fyi, what SM is proposing IS harm reduction advice *facepalm again*
“The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent.”
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