Huge Issues with Phnom Penh's biggest expat school ISPP?

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Re: Huge Issues with Phnom Penh's biggest expat school ISPP?

Postby boozyoldman » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:07 pm

Surely the point about apostrophe use/misuse in English is that there are clear and obvious standards:

* It's time to give the dog its food *


But how about "We need more Harold Wilson's coming from the ranks of ordinary people." Well?

Is this acceptable usage or not? I would say not; in any case, it can be far more elegantly phrased.

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Postby Khmerhamster » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:27 pm

boozyoldman wrote:Surely the point about apostrophe use/misuse in English is that there are clear and obvious standards:

* It's time to give the dog its food *


But how about "We need more Harold Wilson's coming from the ranks of ordinary people." Well?

Is this acceptable usage or not? I would say not; in any case, it can be far more elegantly phrased.

One woman said she almost lost the will to live when she saw

50% Off Trouser's and Sweater's


on a carefully-printed poster in Preston market


Have you just copied and pasted this from another website or document.
Odd examples to provide & your spacing is all over the place..
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Re: Huge Issues with Phnom Penh's biggest expat school ISPP?

Postby simon44 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:57 pm

But how about "We need more Harold Wilson's coming from the ranks of ordinary people


I would reply 'Harold Wilson's what?'
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Re: Huge Issues with Phnom Penh's biggest expat school ISPP?

Postby claptrap1 » Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:03 am

My god, What was I doing reading the rant of this Denchao guy? He is obviously insecure as hell with a bee in his bonnet - being that uptight about who is and who is not a teacher is not "normal": I know a couple of people who are very intelligent (one is a genius) and have Asperger's syndrome: this Denchao guy sounds very much like them.

"I won't look down or crap on people with a CELTA. They do their thang and I do mine. But don't diss people who have gone through the QTS mill."

Nobody did, it was your perception. What was said that the skills you learn doing QTS are designed for monolingual school in a western country and don't always apply well in EFL situation, especially where the culture is as different as it is in Asia. You are right in that CELTA is simply an initial training to give some pointers and confidence for someone new to teaching: it is simply an indication that a person has some idea what they are doing and are "safe" to let loose in a classroom where the real, practical learning starts - just like a driving licence. On the other hand, if someone says they have DELTA, I would say that person IS qualified, as it is considered the same level of education as QTS/PGCE. But I don't think you understand / know the difference, even when the person in the thread tried to explain to you.

"It takes skills, man. Come in my classroom and then try to teach literacy, numeracy, art, science, geography, history, art, PE and more to a bunch of hyperactive 8 years old. You can't do that unless you had a hell of a training under your belt."

I have my utmost respect for those who have got a proper teacher's qualification but I think your statement of not being able to do it unless you have had "a hell of a training under your belt" shows deep ignorance of the situation in Cambodia. I have CELTA and another TEFL qualification equal to that but I don't think myself as qualified. As CELTA is designed exclusively for adults and teenagers, it is also pretty irrelevant for teaching kids as it is: in other words, most of us have had no guidance and get no support, which means that in some respect we efl teachers have even more difficult job in teaching hyperactive kids who are given books that are way beyond their comprehension of the language they contain, usually including at least one SEN kid thrown in - just like so many other teflers - and without the resources and support from psychologists, speech therapists, doctors etc that teachers in western countries have. The physical resources can be also non-existent in comparison unless you work in the most expensive international schools. In cheaper institutions the parents are often also ignorant about their child's issues or child development in general and many also but leave their child with relatives that don't care or cannot cope. Yet it is exactly those parents who never turn up to parents meetings and show no interest in their child otherwise are the ones most likely to complain that their 3-year old who has been to school already 6 months doesn't know the alphabet - kids who are hardly spoken to at home so their Khmer vocabulary and general comprehension would raise concern if they were raised in the west!

The other point I would like to point out is that the definition of a teacher is "someone whose job is to teach in a school or college" (Cambridge dictionary) or "some who teaches (especially in a school) - note that the word qualification or degree is not mentioned... So, so much for demanding efl teachers dropping the word "teacher" from their title! Sorry to burst your bubble... By the way, in my opinion, in some ways that disdain for teachers is nothing to do with teflers but because of Pol Pot: after the war was over, schools had to be filled with semi-literate, half-educated teachers. Don't know if education was respected before but I feel that there is still disdain and mistrust of educated people, possibly a hangover from Pol Pot times. Today the only thing that people respect is money and power.

If you like, you can call yourself a "registered teacher" if you want to distinguish yourself from lay teachers like me. I had to do the same when I was doing massage gigs*, to differentiate myself from the prostitutes and hobbyists /unqualified alternative therapists. But of course the uninitiated could never appreciate the hard work and over 600 hours of practical training with two weeks of observations from external bodies during the exam period. And why should they? It is enough for them to be able to trust that I know what I am doing and why - just like your employer and parents/students should be able to trust that you know what you're doing in the classroom. There's no need to make a song and dance about it at every possible opportunity. (The proper title in my country is "Trained Masseuse": only those with that title can be registered in the same database as qualified nurses and are bound by oath of patient confidentiality - but I used "registered" simply because it is more descriptive.)

That's enough of rant from me to this ancient and very silly thread. I hope Dengchao has woken up to the reality and mellowed a bit.
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Postby LexusSchmexus » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:37 pm

claptrap1 wrote:That's enough of rant from me to this ancient and very silly thread. I hope Dengchao has woken up to the reality and mellowed a bit.

Yeah, why did you even bring reply to an old thread anyways? Especially an overly long reply that myself and others won't bother reading.
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Re: Huge Issues with Phnom Penh's biggest expat school ISPP?

Postby Mongoose » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:25 pm

Fast forward to 2018

I’m curious to know what’s the latest on ???
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Re: Huge Issues with Phnom Penh's biggest expat school ISPP?

Postby Mongoose » Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:25 am

Tracy France is Barry Sutherland’s current wife, the same person who had an inappropriate relationship with Barry ( had an affair and ruined two families as they were both already married) and was forced to leave ISPP because of that and having a conflict of interest. Tracy is also thehead of school st South bridge international school. Rumour has it that Tracy has fired 5khmer teachers, forced 3 Khmer teachers to resign, threatened 3 foreign teachers to resign and they did, and recently forced another foreign teacher to leave [4:16 PM, 9/13/2018] ****: Tracy doesn't like him..She said it to ***** privately
[4:16 PM, 9/13/2018] *****: She said she doesn't want his teaching style. A few months ago tried to bully another foreign teacher to resign but that teacher challenged back, and returned to school but not to her contracted position so Tracy had rallied staff in the school to create an unhealthy environment to fire the staff member without evidence and now that former staff member is suing Tracy in court for employment breaches as well as being sued by 5 local Khmer teachers.
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Re: Huge Issues with Phnom Penh's biggest expat school ISPP?

Postby Rama » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:23 pm

She's off at the end of this academic year.
https://www.sisc.edu.kh/index.php/work-with-us/
The school is hardly top tier anyway and she'll be paid far more elsewhere.
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Re: Huge Issues with Phnom Penh's biggest expat school ISPP?

Postby crazyjohn » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:52 am

I only read the original rant but liked the expression “ lassie faire”. Shouldn’t Lassie have a capital letter? It was a great TV series when we were kids.
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Postby Playboy » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:03 am

crazyjohn wrote:I only read the original rant but liked the expression “ lassie faire”. Shouldn’t Lassie have a capital letter? It was a great TV series when we were kids.
I always assumed that Lassie was a Septic, never realised until this thread that she was either Asturian or PorridgeWog ??

Fairé or Fàire ??
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Postby Jep » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:10 am

crazyjohn wrote:I only read the original rant but liked the expression “ lassie faire”. Shouldn’t Lassie have a capital letter? It was a great TV series when we were kids.

Mate, I also loved Lassie, once a week on black and white TV( id cry when Lassie got hurt) and the Flying Nun, i think i got my first erection watching that then the unforgettable 6 Million dollar Man showed up. I had a bionic penis at aged 14.
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Re: Huge Issues with Phnom Penh's biggest expat school ISPP?

Postby Mongoose » Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:32 am

Rama wrote:She's off at the end of this academic year.
https://www.sisc.edu.kh/index.php/work-with-us/
The school is hardly top tier anyway and she'll be paid far more elsewhere.


Haha awwwww is she running away so she doesn’t have to pay the khmers or the expat teacher compensation for being a dick to them and breaching the Cambodian employment laws? Well, if I were those teachers I’d be applying to the courts to prevent her from leaving the country and taking her passport off her! She’s going to leave Southbridge in financial ruin.
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Re: Huge Issues with Phnom Penh's biggest expat school ISPP?

Postby simon44 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:49 pm

Mate, I also loved Lassie, once a week on black and white TV( id cry when Lassie got hurt) and the Flying Nun, i think i got my first erection watching that then the unforgettable 6 Million dollar Man showed up. I had a bionic penis at aged 14.


Getting your first erection when watching a big fluffy dog is maybe cause for concern.... :)
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Re: Huge Issues with Phnom Penh's biggest expat school ISPP?

Postby Spigzy » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:30 pm

I think he means Sally Field. Although if you're dyslexic I can see the Sally/Lassie confusion! :-)
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