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Re: Starting up a small English language school

Postby Alex » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:08 pm

erictheking wrote:I suppose we can put it down to a bad day at the office, but I was as amazed as you are shocked. Despite the fact that they are advertised all over Bangkok, it was a truly amateurish gig from the moment I walked in the door (3 times, in fact). This would be 5 years ago now, but I've honestly never heard a good word said about them since then.

Knowing some of the quality teachers they have chosen to employ in Bangkok personally, I cannot help but think that you're right. The best thing about Wallstreet in Thailand is their marketing.
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Re: Starting up a small English language school

Postby cambod » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:55 am

Alex wrote:
erictheking wrote:I suppose we can put it down to a bad day at the office, but I was as amazed as you are shocked. Despite the fact that they are advertised all over Bangkok, it was a truly amateurish gig from the moment I walked in the door (3 times, in fact). This would be 5 years ago now, but I've honestly never heard a good word said about them since then.

Knowing some of the quality teachers they have chosen to employ in Bangkok personally, I cannot help but think that you're right. The best thing about Wallstreet in Thailand is their marketing.


Fair enough, but he definitely didn't interview with a DoS.
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Re: Starting up a small English language school

Postby erictheking » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:34 pm

cambod wrote:
Alex wrote:
erictheking wrote:I suppose we can put it down to a bad day at the office, but I was as amazed as you are shocked. Despite the fact that they are advertised all over Bangkok, it was a truly amateurish gig from the moment I walked in the door (3 times, in fact). This would be 5 years ago now, but I've honestly never heard a good word said about them since then.

Knowing some of the quality teachers they have chosen to employ in Bangkok personally, I cannot help but think that you're right. The best thing about Wallstreet in Thailand is their marketing.


Fair enough, but he definitely didn't interview with a DoS.


No, I'm pretty sure I didn't either.
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Re: Starting up a small English language school

Postby Canberra » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:38 pm

I've gone Bus Reg'n via Cambodian Ministry of Commerce (MOC) as a Sole Proprietor Company. Got there 17.15 yesterday and was nevertheless seen to immediately (Note - I did look the part with collar, tie, suit pants, polished shoes, haircut etc.). Step 1: Account balance to prove necessary balance of 4M KHR not required (I was ready with a bribe coz I don't have that kind of coin!). Step 2: Newspaper ad of intent to register not required. Step 3: Total combined costs of over $1100 quoted by one legal firm not required. The guy at MOC filled out the forms for me (activities: 1. School and 2. Publishing [English Movie Lesson Plans in a book, eventually]) and said total cost would be just $300.

Went back in today and signed the forms, paid $300 (no receipt, but) and was told I'd get a SMS with the Bus Reg No on Monday (when I will print business cards and stationery) and the Cert in a week.

Thus, the new English Movie Club Cambodia (EMCC) is ready to fling open its stylish ground floor doors (near Russian Market, i.e. Toul Thompoung II) very shortly. Anybody enthused about teaching a 3 hr lesson (inc. screening of a 90-100 minute feature film - your choice) on my 50" plasma is welcome to come and work for me. Don't worry, I have a Lesson Plan template for you to use but ability with PowerPoint is very desirable.

Remuneration; to be negotiated, but up to $100 paid for a top quality English Movie Lesson Plan pertaining to a popular movie that I gain publishing rights to (Normal rates for just teaching).

Teaching English via the movies: What could be more fun - and more relevant to conversational English improvement! Cheers to my new EMCC!
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Re: Starting up a small English language school

Postby ken svay » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:25 pm

Good on you Canberra for having a go.
Not too many entrepreneurs or lateral thinkers amongst alleged teachers here.
Actually that is a universal trait of teachers methinks.
A bunch of bloody pedants all of them.
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Re: Starting up a small English language school

Postby Lucky Lucan » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:42 pm

Funnily enough, before it became a negative term, pedant actually meant "teacher".
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Re: Starting up a small English language school

Postby cambod » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:59 pm

ken svay wrote:Good on you Canberra for having a go.
Not too many entrepreneurs or lateral thinkers amongst alleged teachers here.
Actually that is a universal trait of teachers methinks.
A bunch of bloody pedants all of them.


Or amongst anyone, really.
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Re: Starting up a small English language school

Postby LaudJohn » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:37 am

I agree with ken Svay, well done.

It is good to see some lateral thinking and you do have a point of difference and will have until it is successful when it will be badly copied and you will be undercut.

I am however perturbed that you say you do not have 4 milion riel to put in a bank account, that is just $1,000.

Most business fail world wide and especially in Cambodia from being undercapitalised.

They spend all their money on the set up and do not leave enough to meet expenses whislt the business establishes.

Only rarely does a business open it's doors and have the customers and money flow in right away.

Good luck with the business!

Useful info an registering a company yourself; thanks for that and well done for doing it.
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Re: Starting up a small English language school

Postby Canberra » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:14 pm

Yeah, I know, I made a mistake re currency conversion: thought I needed $100K. Still a bit of a newbie, I guess, and thinking in terms of Thai baht (where most of my teaching experience was). Anyway, I am patenting the EMCC syllabus with MOC ($280) which will enable me to order any school offering a similar lesson to desist.

Meanwhile, my man at MOC says I can still be a Sole Proprietor Company and sell shares to the value of 49%. Interesting ...
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Re: Starting up a small English language school

Postby LaudJohn » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:37 pm

Canberra wrote:Y Anyway, I am patenting the EMCC syllabus with MOC ($280) which will enable me to order any school offering a similar lesson to desist.

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LOL

You really are wet behind the ears in regard to Cambodia if you think that will work.
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Re: Starting up a small English language school

Postby andyinasia » Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:20 pm

Just saw your hughmungous fizziog on the back of a tuktuk!
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Re: Starting up a small English language school

Postby Loz » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:54 pm

That is a really cool idea. Maybe the film could also become interactive with the students involved in the future? Maybe? Great idea though. The information on starting a business was really helpful.
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Re: Starting up a small English language school

Postby vladimir » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:51 pm

LaudJohn wrote:
Canberra wrote:Y Anyway, I am patenting the EMCC syllabus with MOC ($280) which will enable me to order any school offering a similar lesson to desist.

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LOL

You really are wet behind the ears in regard to Cambodia if you think that will work.


Trust me, just because they want to copy it doesn't mean they can. Delivery also comes into it.I'm pretty sure Canberra is going to score with this one.
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Re: Starting up a small English language school

Postby LaudJohn » Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:51 pm

vladimir wrote:
LaudJohn wrote:
Canberra wrote:Y Anyway, I am patenting the EMCC syllabus with MOC ($280) which will enable me to order any school offering a similar lesson to desist.

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LOL

You really are wet behind the ears in regard to Cambodia if you think that will work.


Trust me, just because they want to copy it doesn't mean they can. Delivery also comes into it.I'm pretty sure Canberra is going to score with this one.



I agree.

But if it is successful, copy they will and charge a lower price.

He may still do well, even after he gets copied, with those that perfer quality over price, if he can find both of those clients.

"Never mind the quality, feel the width"
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Re: Starting up a small English language school

Postby Canberra » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:18 am

OK, folks, it's CRUNCH!time. Tomorrow night (6-11pm, Mon 13 July 2012)the English Movie Club Cambodia (EMCC) will legally fling its doors open for 'business' at 40 B Eo / St. 454 (nearest crossing: St. 163, i.e. near the Russian Markets), Toul Tompoung II, Phnom Penh.

Note, the EMCC is unlike any ESL School I've seen in all my years and tears teaching in China, Korea, Indonesia, Thailand or my home country of Australia. It's more like an English learning social club.

For example, the EMCC is an association with a formally accepted Constitution specifying things like Annual Membership Fees ($5), EMCC MEMBER's BENEFITS (e.g. free beer for each new member on the night of joining and regular free ESL Group Workshops) and legal obligations.

The following is a summary of the 5 Unique Modes of ESL education EMCC aims to deliver to its MEMBERS:

- MON-SAT: Free drop-in EMCC CHAT CAFÉ over a coffee or beer with other EMCC MEMBERS and EMCC Staff in the EMCC Front Courtyard, 6-11 pm (EMCC MEMBERS can practice their English conversation skills talking about … the movies!).

- MON-WED: Free drop-in EMCC HOSPITALITY Group Workshops with other EMCC MEMBERS and EMCC Staff in the EMCC Kitchen, 7-9 pm (EMCC MEMBERS learn to read, cook and serve English recipes popular with movie-goers!).

- THURS ONLY: Free drop-in EMCC CRITIC Group Workshops involving movie review reading and writing with other EMCC MEMBERS and EMCC Staff in the EMCC Foyer, 7-9 pm (EMCC MEMBERS could end up getting their movie reviews published!).

- FRI-SAT: The $10 EMCC SPECIAL LESSON PLAN (Patent Pending) movie study with other EMCC MEMBERS and the EMCC Staff in the EMCC Auditorium, 7-10 pm (This week: “Australia” [Baz Luhrmann 2008] – Part One, both nights) using the EMCC SPECIAL LESSON PLAN. Note: The EMCC SPECIAL can be pre-purchased at $70 for 10 tickets (redeemable at any time).

- ANYTIME: The $20/Hr EMCC INDIE is individual tuition (By appointment only, with EMCC DIRECTOR Dr. Bruno Starrs).


I hope to get a website up and running soon at which you can inspect the EMCC AGM Minutes, EMCC Constitution, EMCC Articles of Association, EMCC MEMBERSHIP Forms, sample EMCC SPECIAL LESSON PLANS,the Cambodian Ministry of Commerce Company Registration Certificate and a forum for EMCC MEMBER'S Discussion.

Please promote the EMCC to your brightests students (but no children, sorry),

Cheers, Dr. Bruno Starrs,
EMCC DIRECTOR.
Tel: 088 4322145.
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