Wholesale cheating blocked: mass fails
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If this was South Korea they would have prepared.prahocalypse now wrote:If this was South Korea, there would be mass suicides.
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If this was South Korea they would be able to answer the question about locating Cambodia on a world map
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oops, unfortunate timing ...
http://thediplomat.com/2014/10/korean-e ... an-report/
http://thediplomat.com/2014/10/korean-e ... an-report/
Korean Exchange Accused of Plagiarizing Cambodian Report
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andy, to be fair, they have been conditioned, and even encouraged, by said government for 12 years to cheat to pass.andyinasia wrote:Absolutely no sympathy with any student who was given a second chance and still tried to rely on cheating instead of study - i.e. the vast majority.
Expecting them to learn a lesson after one failed exam is a bit much
ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.
Yes , definitely ham fisted. It's as though that wasn't the point in the first place but something else entirely. But wasn't the new edu chief the planner? So maybe just ham fisted , hard to comprehend really.vladimir wrote:andy, to be fair, they have been conditioned, and even encouraged, by said government for 12 years to cheat to pass.andyinasia wrote:Absolutely no sympathy with any student who was given a second chance and still tried to rely on cheating instead of study - i.e. the vast majority.
Expecting them to learn a lesson after one failed exam is a bit much
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K440 : Lucky cheese for the gentry; poultry and death for the peasants.
"Reading made Don Quixote a gentleman. Believing what he read made him mad."
"Reading made Don Quixote a gentleman. Believing what he read made him mad."
I fail to see how "one failed exam, one more last chance" doesn't send a perfectly clear message..vladimir wrote:Expecting them to learn a lesson after one failed exam is a bit much
I mean what the heck were they counting on
A clear but cheap message. A whole year of students! More expensive but fairer way may have been to run a mid year exam under the same conditions to let them know what to expect.metaleap wrote:I fail to see how "one failed exam, one more last chance" doesn't send a perfectly clear message..vladimir wrote:Expecting them to learn a lesson after one failed exam is a bit much
I mean what the heck were they counting on
I don't like my students cheating and I am glad it may be changing but its the system at fault remember, not just the students. They learn as preteens to hand in their money to school everyday or risk not making their grades, as does the teacher who doesn't past some of the graft on-wards and upwards.
K440 : Lucky cheese for the gentry; poultry and death for the peasants.
"Reading made Don Quixote a gentleman. Believing what he read made him mad."
"Reading made Don Quixote a gentleman. Believing what he read made him mad."
What I find it rather amusing is how you seem to seize every opportunity to drag the CNRP into this.andyinasia wrote: I'm waiting for the CNRP's response to this - are they going to curry favour with their youth electorate by condemning this clamp-down on corruption?
Didn't Ron Chhun, the teacher's union leader (who is close to CNRP) say this?
http://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/secon ... rms-71592/
You must have such a low opinion of the CNRP for you to writeCD wrote:Rong Chhun, president of the Cambodian Independent Teachers’ Association, said the reforms exposed urgent gaps in the country’s education system—particularly in primary schools, where he claimed many children are still unable to read or write—and came decades too late.
“They should have improved this 10 years ago…but although it is late, it is better than not making chances, since we do not want to continue this old way,” he said.
Did this contempt for the CNRP start with their leaders' anti-Yuon rhetoric at the last election?andyinasia wrote:are they going to curry favour with their youth electorate by condemning this clamp-down on corruption?
andyinasia wrote:Absolutely no sympathy with any student who was given a second chance and still tried to rely on cheating instead of study - i.e. the vast majority.
It's likely that many of the students who failed did study but they have such an inadequate grasp of certain subjects (e.g. Maths, Physics) that take years of solid and disciplined study and effort that they had no chance of passing, anyway.vladimir wrote:andy, to be fair, they have been conditioned, and even encouraged, by said government for 12 years to cheat to pass.
Expecting them to learn a lesson after one failed exam is a bit much
These subjects carry the most weight in the exam.
The culture of corruption encouraged (or at least tolerated) by the government until now is responsible for the poor attitude/ study habits and calibre of these students.
Add to that unqualified teachers and class sizes of 40-60 kids...Cambodian wrote:andyinasia wrote:Absolutely no sympathy with any student who was given a second chance and still tried to rely on cheating instead of study - i.e. the vast majority.It's likely that many of the students who failed did study but they have such an inadequate grasp of certain subjects (e.g. Maths, Physics) that take years of solid and disciplined study and effort that they had no chance of passing, anyway.vladimir wrote:andy, to be fair, they have been conditioned, and even encouraged, by said government for 12 years to cheat to pass.
Expecting them to learn a lesson after one failed exam is a bit much
These subjects carry the most weight in the exam.
The culture of corruption encouraged (or at least tolerated) by the government until now is responsible for the poor attitude/ study habits and calibre of these students.
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As today's PPP points out, even in the capital where students had easy access to tutors, few bothered.
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/f ... igh-future
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/f ... igh-future
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Ha! Typical Cambodia, they can carry on without it by doing a 2 year Associate's degree, what joke!
So just different people getting the money, LOL(LY)
So just different people getting the money, LOL(LY)
ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.
Phew! Thank Buddha for that! For a moment I thought there was a loophole in the Khmer graft constitution, haven't seen one of those in quite a few years.vladimir wrote:Ha! Typical Cambodia, they can carry on without it by doing a 2 year Associate's degree, what joke!
So just different people getting the money, LOL(LY)
K440 : Lucky cheese for the gentry; poultry and death for the peasants.
"Reading made Don Quixote a gentleman. Believing what he read made him mad."
"Reading made Don Quixote a gentleman. Believing what he read made him mad."
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