What do you do in Australia that allows you to make 10X would you would make teaching English in Cambodia?
The whole idea of quitting your well paying job and moving to Cambodia and working for peanuts just so that you can see your wife 4x a year instead of 2x a year seems ill-conceived.
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At best only 4 x a year would make it difficult to conceive.gavinmac wrote:The whole idea of quitting your well paying job and moving to Cambodia and working for peanuts just so that you can see your wife 4x a year instead of 2x a year seems ill-conceived.
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If done in the back of an SUV it would be a 4x4 conceived.vladimir wrote:At best only 4 x a year would make it difficult to conceive.gavinmac wrote:The whole idea of quitting your well paying job and moving to Cambodia and working for peanuts just so that you can see your wife 4x a year instead of 2x a year seems ill-conceived.
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Do the CELTA part time in Australia before you leave. Much less intense than the month, more likely a guaranteed pass if PT and at 38 you still have a few years left to gain a decent wage.
Online degree from the Open University etc in your chosen subject, which for teaching purposes should be in education.
You then have the possibility of pulling in over 3000 US per month.
It could take you a while to build up to as eventually the degree will give you more respectability, stability and wealth.
Don't teach in Cambodia though, do it in Vietnam. HCM or Hanoi depending on your decision. Plenty of work paying 18 to 30$ p h without a degree or CELTA. Someone I know that hasn't got either is in Hanoi on $35 ph at the moment. There is also private teaching @ $25 p h.
If your dead set on Cambodia though, you should maybe just come for a holiday and get a job for 6 months teaching in somewhere like BELTEI/ ELT/ Panasastra (all online in English) to see how the lower end is and also see if you like teaching or not. Or if you do the CELTA before you leave try some of the better schools like ACE.
Vietnam visa should be no problem for you if you intend to go to Thailand a lot. Take the plane to BKK and take a taxi, hell you will be able to afford it on Vietnam's wages. One thing about Vietnam though is they don't really have that many holidays. Mainly just 2 weeks at TET. So, that could be a problem unless your GF wants to travel to Vietnam. She gets a free 2 week visa because of the agreement between Cambodia, Vietnam and Thailand (also ASEAN I think). If you work for a government school they take about 2 -3 months off per year in the wet season, though you will only get 15-22$ ph depending on the school/ agency.
When you get to Cambodia be sure to get an E Visa or business visa (30$) for a month. This you can extend for 1, 3, 6,or 12 months at a time from any travel agent. Only the 6 and 12 month ones are multiple - entry. Don't get trapped in Cambodia if you try it!
The CELTA will only help, whether you do the degree or not.
Teaching can be a quite a lucrative trade when you have all the right pieces of paper and are around the right age. 38 is not too old, Still got another 17 + years in the business at least.
Plenty of flights to Thailand from Hanoi/ HCM and you get enough in wages to be able to afford them. If I was 38 that's probably the direction I would go in.
Otherwise, get her over to Australia and marry her there if you can swing it. Maybe even get her to sign a pre nup . Well, just in case..
Online degree from the Open University etc in your chosen subject, which for teaching purposes should be in education.
You then have the possibility of pulling in over 3000 US per month.
It could take you a while to build up to as eventually the degree will give you more respectability, stability and wealth.
Don't teach in Cambodia though, do it in Vietnam. HCM or Hanoi depending on your decision. Plenty of work paying 18 to 30$ p h without a degree or CELTA. Someone I know that hasn't got either is in Hanoi on $35 ph at the moment. There is also private teaching @ $25 p h.
If your dead set on Cambodia though, you should maybe just come for a holiday and get a job for 6 months teaching in somewhere like BELTEI/ ELT/ Panasastra (all online in English) to see how the lower end is and also see if you like teaching or not. Or if you do the CELTA before you leave try some of the better schools like ACE.
Vietnam visa should be no problem for you if you intend to go to Thailand a lot. Take the plane to BKK and take a taxi, hell you will be able to afford it on Vietnam's wages. One thing about Vietnam though is they don't really have that many holidays. Mainly just 2 weeks at TET. So, that could be a problem unless your GF wants to travel to Vietnam. She gets a free 2 week visa because of the agreement between Cambodia, Vietnam and Thailand (also ASEAN I think). If you work for a government school they take about 2 -3 months off per year in the wet season, though you will only get 15-22$ ph depending on the school/ agency.
When you get to Cambodia be sure to get an E Visa or business visa (30$) for a month. This you can extend for 1, 3, 6,or 12 months at a time from any travel agent. Only the 6 and 12 month ones are multiple - entry. Don't get trapped in Cambodia if you try it!
The CELTA will only help, whether you do the degree or not.
Teaching can be a quite a lucrative trade when you have all the right pieces of paper and are around the right age. 38 is not too old, Still got another 17 + years in the business at least.
Plenty of flights to Thailand from Hanoi/ HCM and you get enough in wages to be able to afford them. If I was 38 that's probably the direction I would go in.
Otherwise, get her over to Australia and marry her there if you can swing it. Maybe even get her to sign a pre nup . Well, just in case..
it's all if, but or maybe..Mr Lovejuice wrote:Do the CELTA part time in Australia before you leave. Much less intense than the month, more likely a guaranteed pass if PT and at 38 you still have a few years left to gain a decent wage.
Online degree from the Open University etc in your chosen subject, which for teaching purposes should be in education.
You then have the possibility of pulling in over 3000 US per month.
It could take you a while to build up to as eventually the degree will give you more respectability, stability and wealth.
Don't teach in Cambodia though, do it in Vietnam. HCM or Hanoi depending on your decision. Plenty of work paying 18 to 30$ p h without a degree or CELTA. Someone I know that hasn't got either is in Hanoi on $35 ph at the moment. There is also private teaching @ $25 p h.
If your dead set on Cambodia though, you should maybe just come for a holiday and get a job for 6 months teaching in somewhere like BELTEI/ ELT/ Panasastra (all online in English) to see how the lower end is and also see if you like teaching or not. Or if you do the CELTA before you leave try some of the better schools like ACE.
Vietnam visa should be no problem for you if you intend to go to Thailand a lot. Take the plane to BKK and take a taxi, hell you will be able to afford it on Vietnam's wages. One thing about Vietnam though is they don't really have that many holidays. Mainly just 2 weeks at TET. So, that could be a problem unless your GF wants to travel to Vietnam. She gets a free 2 week visa because of the agreement between Cambodia, Vietnam and Thailand (also ASEAN I think). If you work for a government school they take about 2 -3 months off per year in the wet season, though you will only get 15-22$ ph depending on the school/ agency.
When you get to Cambodia be sure to get an E Visa or business visa (30$) for a month. This you can extend for 1, 3, 6,or 12 months at a time from any travel agent. Only the 6 and 12 month ones are multiple - entry. Don't get trapped in Cambodia if you try it!
The CELTA will only help, whether you do the degree or not.
Teaching can be a quite a lucrative trade when you have all the right pieces of paper and are around the right age. 38 is not too old, Still got another 17 + years in the business at least.
Plenty of flights to Thailand from Hanoi/ HCM and you get enough in wages to be able to afford them. If I was 38 that's probably the direction I would go in.
Otherwise, get her over to Australia and marry her there if you can swing it. Maybe even get her to sign a pre nup . Well, just in case..
OP should stop thinking with his cock and get back to work.
MrLovejuice should refrain from wanking when he's near a keyboard.
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Typically, yes, but if they have a seat to fill, chances are, they will take you as long as they think that you have the 'ability' to complete a degree. One of the trainees I went through with in the CELTA had dropped out after only one year studying his Bachelor of Applied Science and he was accepted into the CELTA program. He did pretty well and was one of the few who was awarded a Pass B.Falcon Randwick wrote:Typically if you don't have a degree you won't be accepted into a CELTA course...
"Be careful because Cambodia is the most dangerous place you will ever visit. You will fall in love with it, and eventually it will break your heart." - Joseph Mussomeli, former U.S. ambassador to Cambodia.
I don't have a degree but I did CELTA and I dare say I wasn't any worse than the next guy who didn't get more than Pass. I was possibly accepted because I had a couple of years of experience as a "bottom feeder" as someone in this forum calls English teachers. The fact is, if you are not interested in making lots of money, then you don't even need that CELTA if you are a native speaker. But it helps to gain edge over those that don't have anything, just as TESOL does (I've done that, too).
People talk about the loss of good income if you go to Cambodia to teach I can see your point, but money isn't everything: otherwise I wouldn't have taken a dip in salary and come to Cambodia: my old country doesn't have "eternal summer" and friendly people, things I value more than cold money. But I also don't have anyone but myself to support and while I don't skimp on things, my needs are not huge - I could live on less if I had to.
Having said that, I agree with the replies here: being able to visit perhaps only four times a year instead of two and earning much lower salary doesn't make sense. And four holidays per year? There are only 3 major holidays in Cambodia that officially last maximum of 3 days, so you would have to have an understanding boss unless you teach in university - which you wouldn't be able to without at least a bachelor degree... It seems that the only long-term solution is to be in the same country really. Can you not study for a degree part-time while you work in Australia a bit longer? In the meanwhile, you could organise your holidays while she is working and fly her over when she has a holiday. That way you could still see her three times a week, which would be at least better than twice.
People talk about the loss of good income if you go to Cambodia to teach I can see your point, but money isn't everything: otherwise I wouldn't have taken a dip in salary and come to Cambodia: my old country doesn't have "eternal summer" and friendly people, things I value more than cold money. But I also don't have anyone but myself to support and while I don't skimp on things, my needs are not huge - I could live on less if I had to.
Having said that, I agree with the replies here: being able to visit perhaps only four times a year instead of two and earning much lower salary doesn't make sense. And four holidays per year? There are only 3 major holidays in Cambodia that officially last maximum of 3 days, so you would have to have an understanding boss unless you teach in university - which you wouldn't be able to without at least a bachelor degree... It seems that the only long-term solution is to be in the same country really. Can you not study for a degree part-time while you work in Australia a bit longer? In the meanwhile, you could organise your holidays while she is working and fly her over when she has a holiday. That way you could still see her three times a week, which would be at least better than twice.
I like the way Mr Super Qualified, But Still Can't Get a Job guy and Mr Pineapple are the pillars of wisdom.
Then again, I work extreme hours, make fuck all, and, would too offer the advice to stay the fuck away.
Then again, I work extreme hours, make fuck all, and, would too offer the advice to stay the fuck away.
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I agree with others to go for the CELTA. Some schools are picky so better to pay a little more and get the most respected 4-week certificate out there.
It is not a requirement that you have a BA to do the CELTA. If schools are asking for that it's because a) they are can pick and choose their candidates and want a convenient way to weed out applicants or b) they use the CELTA as a school recruitment tool and so want their trainees to be fully qualified for work at their schools upon completion of the course.
I lived and worked in both Vietnam and Cambodia. I definitely preferred my life in Cambodia, but there are more options in Vietnam including more schools who pay better and who hire teachers without university degrees.
Good luck to you!
It is not a requirement that you have a BA to do the CELTA. If schools are asking for that it's because a) they are can pick and choose their candidates and want a convenient way to weed out applicants or b) they use the CELTA as a school recruitment tool and so want their trainees to be fully qualified for work at their schools upon completion of the course.
I lived and worked in both Vietnam and Cambodia. I definitely preferred my life in Cambodia, but there are more options in Vietnam including more schools who pay better and who hire teachers without university degrees.
Good luck to you!
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Hey, I just write as I see things. I have experience teaching in both countries. Both countries school admin are notorious for lying to their teachers. No difference there. But there is a huge difference for most teachers. Food's cheaper and the wages are much higher in Vietnam. At least $3 higher and not even half the holidays of Cambodia, so you earn more there which makes a huge difference (unless you work gov schools). Rents about 70% cheaper here if you get a good landlord though.pedros wrote:I like the way Mr Super Qualified, But Still Can't Get a Job guy and Mr Pineapple are the pillars of wisdom.
Then again, I work extreme hours, make fuck all, and, would too offer the advice to stay the fuck away.
I want to make money to save. After all, there is no health care really here and dentists / doctors are way more affordable in Vietnam. I just took a week off to get 6 teeth done. Even with the time off and travel/hotel, it was still cheaper by about a half than what I was quoted here. Apart from that, I think both countries have as much good and bad in them. I personally never get sick from the food in Vietnam either.
Meh...
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