Moving on from Thailand - 'decent' teaching jobs in Cambodia?
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Moving on from Thailand - 'decent' teaching jobs in Cambodia?
Perhaps that is not the most appropriate post title
I've been teaching 'Homeroom' (primary grade ESL, Maths, Science etc) and ESL, Maths, Physics (teens, adults, vocational students) in Thailand, Laos and Myanmar for about 10 years, in between building small hotels in Phuket. Also some admin responsibilities (Assistant Principal, Headmaster).
I am NOT a licenced teacher, but do have a couple of non-related Master degrees, plus TEFL and about 10 CPD teaching certiicates in Phonics, IELTS, SEN.
I see quite a few TEFL jobs paying $1,000 pcm, but that is rather low, even for my frugal lifestyle.
Can anyone suggest schools which would offer more than that salary level to an experienced but non-licenced British teacher, and which are not run by funny Turkish religious sects?
I will probably fly over from Bangkok in a few days, if face-to-face interviews are available.
Thanks for any advice
I've been teaching 'Homeroom' (primary grade ESL, Maths, Science etc) and ESL, Maths, Physics (teens, adults, vocational students) in Thailand, Laos and Myanmar for about 10 years, in between building small hotels in Phuket. Also some admin responsibilities (Assistant Principal, Headmaster).
I am NOT a licenced teacher, but do have a couple of non-related Master degrees, plus TEFL and about 10 CPD teaching certiicates in Phonics, IELTS, SEN.
I see quite a few TEFL jobs paying $1,000 pcm, but that is rather low, even for my frugal lifestyle.
Can anyone suggest schools which would offer more than that salary level to an experienced but non-licenced British teacher, and which are not run by funny Turkish religious sects?
I will probably fly over from Bangkok in a few days, if face-to-face interviews are available.
Thanks for any advice
There are only like 3 schools that I know of that pay a decent wage. My advice is go to Vietnam. TEFL in Cambodia isn't what it used to be.
ACE, ISPP, and NISC pay well. There might be one or two more.
ACE, ISPP, and NISC pay well. There might be one or two more.
A friend is prospering in Myanmar for several years.
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Does it have to be Cambodia?
With two Masters you should be able to get a lecturing job at a foreign university in Asia. Check vacancies at RMIT in Vietnam. Nottingham University also has a campus in Malaysia.
There are more, I'm just out of the loop at the moment. Start at the top and work your way down, not the other way around.
Teaching English in Cambodia is not recommended unless you already own assets.
With two Masters you should be able to get a lecturing job at a foreign university in Asia. Check vacancies at RMIT in Vietnam. Nottingham University also has a campus in Malaysia.
There are more, I'm just out of the loop at the moment. Start at the top and work your way down, not the other way around.
Teaching English in Cambodia is not recommended unless you already own assets.
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what happened to your hotels near the ariport in Phuket?
Working in Cambodia, salary wise, will be a step down from Thailand and Burma
Working in Cambodia, salary wise, will be a step down from Thailand and Burma
"We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer." HST
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Thanks for the replies and comments. I only ever had 1 hotel in Phuket at any 1 time - I sold each one in turn (or gave it to my ex-wife at that time!). I have leased out my current resort.
I previously taught in Myanmar some years ago and enjoyed it very much. Right now, I don't see any teaching vacancies and I need a job offer in order to enter Myanmar on a business visa (on arrival).
I have plenty of job offers from mainland China. But being totally racist here, the experience of dealing with mainland Chinese guests at my resort has totally put me off working in China.
Vietnam is a possibility. I've worked in Laos before and enjoyed as much as Myanmar. But few teaching opportunities and low salaries.
I understand what you're saying about teaching in Cambodia - I'll spend a few days checking out options and then decide where my future lies.
I previously taught in Myanmar some years ago and enjoyed it very much. Right now, I don't see any teaching vacancies and I need a job offer in order to enter Myanmar on a business visa (on arrival).
I have plenty of job offers from mainland China. But being totally racist here, the experience of dealing with mainland Chinese guests at my resort has totally put me off working in China.
Vietnam is a possibility. I've worked in Laos before and enjoyed as much as Myanmar. But few teaching opportunities and low salaries.
I understand what you're saying about teaching in Cambodia - I'll spend a few days checking out options and then decide where my future lies.
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I'd echo HPUM's advice to start at the top and work your way down, whilst applying. Let us know how things pan out.
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I've been 'Googling' about teaching in Cambodia, and am now getting a better idea about what is available, what could be available, and what is a non-starter.
What about opening a language/tutoring school? It seems that starting a legal business in Cambodia still involves less paperwork and restrictions than what I had to do in Thailand with my hotel ltd company.
I know that there are many language schools in pp. But what about Sihoukville? My Googling suggests that there are few 'decent' schools in that town, and most seem to be 'we love Jesus' schools, which may put some parents off.
I have run my own tutoring school in Thailand, with reasonable success. Sihoukville could appeal to me to tutor:
- Khmer kids whose parents can afford/are willing to pay my tutor fees (ESL, Maths, Science)
- Foreign kids
- Adult locals who need tutoring exam preparation (IELTS/TOEFL) or general ESL.
- Adult locals who are working/want to work in the hotel sector, and need tutoring in Hospitality or English for Hospitality (my hotel background and previous teaching of Edexcel Hospitality courses means that I can teach this subject).
This is just an idea of course, and I need to investigate further when I'm in town. But my financial needs are not great and I always like the challenge to start up in a new town.
I think I'll fly over in the next day or two, relax in Sihoukville and do some initial research as to whether there could be demand for a NES tutor/tutoring school
What about opening a language/tutoring school? It seems that starting a legal business in Cambodia still involves less paperwork and restrictions than what I had to do in Thailand with my hotel ltd company.
I know that there are many language schools in pp. But what about Sihoukville? My Googling suggests that there are few 'decent' schools in that town, and most seem to be 'we love Jesus' schools, which may put some parents off.
I have run my own tutoring school in Thailand, with reasonable success. Sihoukville could appeal to me to tutor:
- Khmer kids whose parents can afford/are willing to pay my tutor fees (ESL, Maths, Science)
- Foreign kids
- Adult locals who need tutoring exam preparation (IELTS/TOEFL) or general ESL.
- Adult locals who are working/want to work in the hotel sector, and need tutoring in Hospitality or English for Hospitality (my hotel background and previous teaching of Edexcel Hospitality courses means that I can teach this subject).
This is just an idea of course, and I need to investigate further when I'm in town. But my financial needs are not great and I always like the challenge to start up in a new town.
I think I'll fly over in the next day or two, relax in Sihoukville and do some initial research as to whether there could be demand for a NES tutor/tutoring school
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Simon 44 might find it a good idea to downplay his experience as a headmaster/manager in Laos etc., - the
sort of mean shits who own/run language schools in PP have a strong aversion to people demonstrably
smarter / more experienced than they are.
We shall see!
sort of mean shits who own/run language schools in PP have a strong aversion to people demonstrably
smarter / more experienced than they are.
We shall see!
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So, after all the years as hotelier, Simon has decided that he is not much cop at it?
Give teaching a go?
Wow.
Give teaching a go?
Wow.
it seems that some just want to take swipes at the OP instead of trying to give the guy some decent advice.
i too am new here and wonder what is the problem with the language centers, how hard would it be to start one, are the Cambodian parents motivated for their kids to learn, and what could they afford to pay if someone opened a real language center that was actually effective.
i too am new here and wonder what is the problem with the language centers, how hard would it be to start one, are the Cambodian parents motivated for their kids to learn, and what could they afford to pay if someone opened a real language center that was actually effective.
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Having been in PP for just over a week now, I decided to follow up on some of my email applications by calling the school direct, using the phone number given in their adverts for 'We urgently need NES teachers'.
Schools such as Western Int., Golden Gate, ACE, KIS etc.
The phone conversations typically went like this:
Hallo, is that xxx school?
Yes
Are you still looking for NES teachers?
Yes we urgently need to recruit y number of NES teachers.
Last week, I sent my Cv by email two times to your school, and I also dropped a hard copy in at your reception
Oh, the person handling recruitment hasn't looked at any CVs yet. .
LoL, totally useless
Schools such as Western Int., Golden Gate, ACE, KIS etc.
The phone conversations typically went like this:
Hallo, is that xxx school?
Yes
Are you still looking for NES teachers?
Yes we urgently need to recruit y number of NES teachers.
Last week, I sent my Cv by email two times to your school, and I also dropped a hard copy in at your reception
Oh, the person handling recruitment hasn't looked at any CVs yet. .
LoL, totally useless
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Steve - setting up even a very modest learning center will cost several thousand dollars, assuming that one is in a town of any size.
In the poorer and shabbier provinces, it'll cost less but you'd be competing against similar "schools" run in crude shack where the teaching is endless / meaningless repetition done by Cambodians (on $100 - $200/month) who hold some sort of certificate from rinky-dinky schools in provincial cities.
Nobody is "slagging off" the O.P. - the point is that the O.P. is a newbie and hasn't had time to learn what is what
is a grossly-oversupplied market; Cambodia is inundated with bright-eyed kiddies eager to "make a difference" and
work for nothing or perhaps a tiny stipend (insufficient to cover rent and food, let alone beer and sushi.)
In the poorer and shabbier provinces, it'll cost less but you'd be competing against similar "schools" run in crude shack where the teaching is endless / meaningless repetition done by Cambodians (on $100 - $200/month) who hold some sort of certificate from rinky-dinky schools in provincial cities.
Nobody is "slagging off" the O.P. - the point is that the O.P. is a newbie and hasn't had time to learn what is what
is a grossly-oversupplied market; Cambodia is inundated with bright-eyed kiddies eager to "make a difference" and
work for nothing or perhaps a tiny stipend (insufficient to cover rent and food, let alone beer and sushi.)
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