Decent third tier school
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Changed from 'they' to 'we' halfway through. Has Gilmore just told us which school he works in?Gilmore wrote:Nice to see you displaying your total ignorance. BISPP was the first school in Cambodia to receive Cambrifge accreditation, in 1998, long before the likes of Northbridge, ICAN or Logos. Do I detect a theme of underlying resentment?
Sorry I don't have the link, but I was recently shown a website that rates international schools worldwide. In Cambodia, BISPP was rated 3rd. behind ISPP and Northbridge.
Of course, white kids don't go there and they even employ a lot of highly qualified Asian teachers and pay them the same salaries as Westerners, so they must be bad. We get applicants from CIA and East/West. Many don't meet our requirements and those we do employ comment on how the standards and salaries are much higher.
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I believe you are on the money, though they also offer generous leave allowances and pay for work permits and visas.LexusSchmexus wrote:Is East West really second tier? I was surprised at the cost vs what they paid teachers. Something like 4k per year for tuition, but only paid teachers $1500 or so? I'm only going off distant memory here, so could be way off.
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CIA have an American curriculum and East-West offer Cambridge A Levels...likewise, Footprints, so yes,achieving students would qualify for universities overseas. Correct me if I'm wrong.Gilmore wrote:CIA seem to have their act together these days. I've heard very mixed reports about East/West. I don't think either qualify students for top overseas universities, but I could be wrong. They are both 2nd. tier, not 3rd. tier schools.
CIA have superior sports facilities, but their location sucks, whereas East-West is pretty central.
It would appear to be the case that, as with most things, you get what you pay for. A $10k-$$20k school is superior to a $5k school,albeit with an elitist, 'gangster' tag attached. A $5k school in turn is better than a $2.5 k school. Is a $2.5k school better than a $500 school though...? I guess by the laws of logic, it must be.
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I think they get a "hardship allowance" of 20% (could be 35%, I forget), so that's a few grand extra a month for having to endure the difficulties of living here. It's really heartwarming to know there are such dedicated individuals willing to suffer through the hardships of Cambodia for 2-3 years, being away from life in DC and proper, civilized people/government. Sad.Alexandra wrote:Christ's sake, even the US embassy pads salaries with a thousand per month because it's such a high risk and oh so dangerous to live here. The price of education literally went up by around heaps this year and will go up at least another heap next year because of, wait for it, civil war.
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I feel _really_ hurt by Your insensitive remarks! Here in Beijing, I have A 5 MIN DRIVE to the nearest Golden Arches! I am that isolated from Western civilization. OfMiguelito wrote:I think they get a "hardship allowance" of 20% (could be 35%, I forget), so that's a few grand extra a month for having to endure the difficulties of living here. It's really heartwarming to know there are such dedicated individuals willing to suffer through the hardships of Cambodia for 2-3 years, being away from life in DC and proper, civilized people/government. Sad.Alexandra wrote:Christ's sake, even the US embassy pads salaries with a thousand per month because it's such a high risk and oh so dangerous to live here. The price of education literally went up by around heaps this year and will go up at least another heap next year because of, wait for it, civil war.
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course my company gives me a hardship allowance. Apart from that, no one speaks English and the nearest pizza shop (15 minutes walking) charges CNY85 for a large pizza
(which is excellent since the shop is run by an Italian who imports everything including the water).
If it's any consolation, here is a link to what Nordanglia charges in Beijing:
http://www.nordangliaeducation.com/our- ... of-beijing
$28k-$40k per year from K to senior high. PP schools still have some headroom in their fee structure
So I can understand the prices in PP even though they stink. In China the situation is compunded by recent shrinking market due to Western
companies scaling back the number of expats
Cambodia - tickets booked, moved on to mission planning DONE
Mission completed, reported to Col Braddock. DONE
Now ranting about the experience ONGOING
Mission completed, reported to Col Braddock. DONE
Now ranting about the experience ONGOING
I hope BISPP have updated their accreditation since 1998 with a slightly more stringent accreditation board?Gilmore wrote:Nice to see you displaying your total ignorance. BISPP was the first school in Cambodia to receive Cambrifge accreditation, in 1998, long before the likes of Northbridge, ICAN or Logos. Do I detect a theme of underlying resentment?
Sorry I don't have the link, but I was recently shown a website that rates international schools worldwide. In Cambodia, BISPP was rated 3rd. behind ISPP and Northbridge.
Of course, white kids don't go there and they even employ a lot of highly qualified Asian teachers and pay them the same salaries as Westerners, so they must be bad. We get applicants from CIA and East/West. Many don't meet our requirements and those we do employ comment on how the standards and salaries are much higher.
I tried to check the school's and teacher's credentials on their website, but they don't appear to have one.
I'm sure the website on which it's ranked as 3rd best based their assessment on first hand evidence, rather than just judging the school by its name.
Last I heard about it the bonus was 5% or so lower than for those in Iraq. For places like that it kind of makes sense, I mean with suicide bombers not uncommonly targeting foreign nations, but here I can only agree with your sarcasm.Miguelito wrote:I think they get a "hardship allowance" of 20% (could be 35%, I forget), so that's a few grand extra a month for having to endure the difficulties of living here. It's really heartwarming to know there are such dedicated individuals willing to suffer through the hardships of Cambodia for 2-3 years, being away from life in DC and proper, civilized people/government. Sad.
Boo hoo, there's no Dunkin Donuts and they rarely have more than 3 cashiers working at Lucky in the daytime! Something something 1975.
UN salaries are even worse. By worse I mean much higher. The most dangerous part of their job is wading through a snake infested swamp on the way to the office. Add to that 24/7 security on call, not uncommonly included rent and education fees and viola, we have what they call the "silent majority".
Great way to spend tax dollars, really. I love taxes.
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If you want to educate your kid on the cheap why don't you just hire a full time khmer Teacher? 250$ a month will get you a pretty decent khmer/math/generic teacher until he is 14years old, if you worry about the lack of friends put him in a large 2 hours a day English or Chinese class in the afternoon for 100$ a month. 250$/month for a private tutor is really cheap and you cannot fire your son teachers at Montessori but your private tutor will have to perform if he wants to keep his job. I would say a private tutor might be much quicker at educating your kid and you can pick the books you want him to work with. Also no school bus annoyances as the guy comes to your house.
After if you want your son to be a doctor you could hire a full time doctor fresh from university studies for 400$ a month(still cheaper than most schools and you even get free doctor consultations anytime), I think that would be quite advantageous for when he goes into university, at the end of the day is your university degree that matter so if your budget is tight better save for that (possibly send him to an university in the West).
After if you want your son to be a doctor you could hire a full time doctor fresh from university studies for 400$ a month(still cheaper than most schools and you even get free doctor consultations anytime), I think that would be quite advantageous for when he goes into university, at the end of the day is your university degree that matter so if your budget is tight better save for that (possibly send him to an university in the West).
A private tutor here ?? Good luck with finding someone attuned to the requirements of a western education. The only locals able to pull it off, with relevant maths and literacy skills, are already working as high flyers somewhere and wouldn't be interested in a low-ball offer.
There are plenty of private tutors available for all academic subjects, but fees vary greatly, according to qualifications and experience. You can hire Western teachers with Ph.Ds, certainly in Maths and Science, if you're prepared to pay $35-40 an hour. Texas International School, in BKK1, offers a home schooling based curriculum, whatever that is, and I think their fees are relatively low. No idea about the quality.
To answer my new buddy, khmer text, you were a little slow on the uptake. A number of regular posters, rightly or wrongly, have already made that assumption; hence the snide, provocative comment from Rama, who should stick to what he knows and does well-Khmer translations.
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I'm not tuned into schools in PP, but I suspect a little detective work could have narrowed the candidates down to 2 or 3. But honestly, I don't really care that much.Gilmore wrote:To answer my new buddy, khmer text, you were a little slow on the uptake. A number of regular posters, rightly or wrongly, have already made that assumption; hence the snide, provocative comment from Rama, who should stick to what he knows and does well-Khmer translations.
TBH though, they made the 'snide' comments and they worked - you certainly bit back!
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There's probably some objective criteria where they measure things like infrastructure, public services and violent crime.Last I heard about it the bonus was 5% or so lower than for those in Iraq. For places like that it kind of makes sense, I mean with suicide bombers not uncommonly targeting foreign nations, but here I can only agree with your sarcasm.
So until recently there was no public transport, streets flood whenever it rains and roads are unwalkable. 2 of those are still the case. Healthcare is inadequate and middle class people won't even consider giving birth in a top tier hospital in PP. And public shootings, muggings and burglaries are a dime a dozen.
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