Decent third tier school
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To be honest, if I had kids here then I'd probably look at homeschooling. There are several homeschooling networks around in PP.
The big schools are horrifically expensive and I don't think I would trust the quality of education / continuity of teacher elsewhere.
This is just my relatively uninformed opinion from casual observations and conversations with others.
The big schools are horrifically expensive and I don't think I would trust the quality of education / continuity of teacher elsewhere.
This is just my relatively uninformed opinion from casual observations and conversations with others.
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That makes perfect sense.LexusSchmexus wrote:I think they dropped the English program. They still teach English and all that, but don't have the option of one or the other as far as I know. I would pick it because it's internationally recognised, but also there happens to be a Lycée in my home city (they are all over the world), so the transition back to a western country/education system would be easy. No gap years to "catch up" and so on. An easy transition, in my case anyways.lordofmisrule wrote:Why the lycee? I agree it is a good school but feel it may be mostly appropriate for children that would like to filter back into a school in France, maybe I'm wrongLexusSchmexus wrote:I'd be interested in hearing some responses. I know I would personally send my kids (if/when I get some) to Lycée Descartes, but you have to speak French yourself for the kids to get in plus I believe it would be just barely out of your budget, which rules it out. How much is CIA? Footprints? I've heard good things about both. I'd be interested in learning about options as well.
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Well to be fair, Alexandra's whole point is that it is not the free market. If the embassies and NGOs paid free market rates than the top tier schools will be a lower price. The schools know exactly how much embassies are willing to pay, so they prop up their tuition to reach that level. There is no reason the top schools have to charge that much tuition, other than that embassies set the rates, and the schools are businesses looking to maximize profits so they take advantage those rates but making them the standard.ali baba wrote:Yeah, free market outcomes are disgusting. That's why I vote libertarian so that we can get some gov't regulation up in here.Alexandra wrote:The fees are outrageous thanks to the NGOs and embassies that will pay anything as part of relocation packages.
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Homeschooling means the child doesn't get any social interaction which I consider to be very important.ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ wrote:To be honest, if I had kids here then I'd probably look at homeschooling. There are several homeschooling networks around in PP.
The big schools are horrifically expensive and I don't think I would trust the quality of education / continuity of teacher elsewhere.
This is just my relatively uninformed opinion from casual observations and conversations with others.
My problem with the schools I have come across here here is that students are basically not allowed to fail...at least when it comes to English. This is partly for financial reasons and partly to avoid loss of face.If students do fail,parents are likely to move them to a different school where they can effortlessly move up a grade and eventually graduate, however poor their English. Education is big business in this country and there is serious competition for students, whereas 'teachers' are a dime a dozen.
Maybe I am 'old school', but I would like to find a reasonably priced school where students were properly assessed and graded accordingly.
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Not necessarily.ullobonggottanewmoto wrote:Homeschooling means the child doesn't get any social interaction which I consider to be very important.ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ wrote:To be honest, if I had kids here then I'd probably look at homeschooling. There are several homeschooling networks around in PP.
The big schools are horrifically expensive and I don't think I would trust the quality of education / continuity of teacher elsewhere.
This is just my relatively uninformed opinion from casual observations and conversations with others.
It's certainly different but it doesn't mean 'no social interaction'.
There are plenty of sports clubs, special interest groups which can be used to boost social interaction.
With the kind of 'social interaction' we've seen kids getting at some schools lately, I think homeschooling would be much better.
I think for a 12 year old....you are looking at 7-8k per year for any kind of quality education in Cambodia.
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Does anyone know how good CIA is? They seem to be WASC certified for the junior years, aiming for full certification.ullobonggottanewmoto wrote:If you had a Khmer child or children and couldn't afford the $5000 plus for East West/CIA, let alone the $10000 - $20000 for Northbridge/ISPP, where would be your best options in Phnom Penh? Or are the others all much of a muchness...?
Hos good is WASC if You want to be accepted into an EU/UK senior high or university?
Or is East/West a better school?
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I think they have to charge high fees to pay the higher wages of proper teachers from overseas including flights etc rather than someone who has a tefl certificate and spends his nights in sorya mall. Look at the likes of northbridge and ispp and their students get into top international universities. You pay for that kind of shit if you want your kid to get a head start in life. Plus if you look at regional or further afield international schools then rates here don't seem that extortionate. Top ngos, UN, etc have fiscal responsibility to check they are not being ripped off. They check the stuff out. They know how much costs in comparable institutions worldwide.Miguelito wrote:Well to be fair, Alexandra's whole point is that it is not the free market. If the embassies and NGOs paid free market rates than the top tier schools will be a lower price. The schools know exactly how much embassies are willing to pay, so they prop up their tuition to reach that level. There is no reason the top schools have to charge that much tuition, other than that embassies set the rates, and the schools are businesses looking to maximize profits so they take advantage those rates but making them the standard.ali baba wrote:Yeah, free market outcomes are disgusting. That's why I vote libertarian so that we can get some gov't regulation up in here.Alexandra wrote:The fees are outrageous thanks to the NGOs and embassies that will pay anything as part of relocation packages.
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If serious, that's one of the funniest statements I've ever heard. Well, this week anyways.Just Robbed wrote:Top ngos, UN, etc have fiscal responsibility to check they are not being ripped off. They check the stuff out. They know how much costs in comparable institutions worldwide.
Christ's sake, even the US embassy pads salaries with a thousand per month because it's such a high risk and oh so dangerous to live here. The price of education literally went up by around heaps this year and will go up at least another heap next year because of, wait for it, civil war.
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batshitcrazyweirdo wrote:There isn't a decent third tier school. In my personal opinion ... if you bring your kids here to have education you get nothing.
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Dumb asses. Home school them or are you fucking ignorant stupid fucking moron imbecilic idiots? Just askin.
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CIA seem to have their act together these days. I've heard very mixed reports about East/West. I don't think either qualify students for top overseas universities, but I could be wrong. They are both 2nd. tier, not 3rd. tier schools.
Both are definitely 2nd tier. I'd like to add British International to the list of 2nd tier schools, but all things considered they would still have to be judged as a 3rd tier school, and I'm pretty confident an international schools accreditation body would find them to be at that level too.Gilmore wrote:CIA seem to have their act together these days. I've heard very mixed reports about East/West. I don't think either qualify students for top overseas universities, but I could be wrong. They are both 2nd. tier, not 3rd. tier schools.
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