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Yes, anyone can go. It might be worth checking out the schedule though as it can be incredibly boring. Elizabeth Becker is due to give evidence (or maybe she did already), she'd be interesting to see.
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It's out past the airport. Try looking on their site here: http://www.eccc.gov.kh/en
The Trial Chamber will hear expert testimony from Philip Short on the week commencing Monday 4 March 2013 and Elisabeth Becker during the week commencing 11 March 2013.Consistent with the Chamber's previous directions, both experts may be questioned on the entirety of Case 002 on areas within the knowledge of the experts, and the parties are encouraged to focus their questions on areas relevant to the facts at issue in Case 002/01.
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In the guardian (UK) this morning
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/a ... d-for-life
This one in the independent
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 53023.html
They'll likely be loads more
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/a ... d-for-life
This one in the independent
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 53023.html
They'll likely be loads more
said Tiggerdog!
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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2014 ... 66317.htmlTiggerdog wrote:In the guardian (UK) this morning
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/a ... d-for-life
This one in the independent
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 53023.html
They'll likely be loads more
Never mind.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 55360.html“Nearly 40 years after some of the 20th century’s most appalling crimes were committed, the victims have seen the perpetrators brought to account before a court of law,” said James Goldston of the Open Society Justice Initiative, which has monitored the tribunal since it was established. Not everyone was impressed. Critics of the tribunal have said the way the cases have been drawn up and the limited time-scale being examined meant the context for the crimes has been largely overlooked. A number of historians, for instance, believe the US bombing campaign in Cambodia and Laos, directed against Khmer Rouge and North Vietnamese forces, had a brutalising effect on the broader population and built support for the rebels.
Similarly, the support given to the regime by China, and the Cold War-era decision of the US and Britain to support the Khmer Rouge in retaining Cambodia’s seat at the UN General Assembly even after they had been defeated, was not examined.
“I think an argument could be made that the very way the tribunal was founded means [these issues] were not looked at,” said Michael Karnavas, a lawyer who represented Ieng Sary before his death.
“Nuon Chea kept saying, ‘You are only looking at the crocodile’s body and not its head and tail’. That is a good analogy. You are only interested in snippets.”
Excuse the ignorance and the very late post, but is this gonna be big news for most people here? Will they feel something has been achieved or not?
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Good news. Bad news. You decide.KR Tribunal to Reduce Scope of Investigations
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BY KUCH NAREN AND GEORGE WRIGHT | JANUARY 17, 2015
The Khmer Rouge tribunal on Friday adopted controversial new provisions that will likely reduce the scope of investigations into crimes committed during the Pol Pot era, by allowing both co-investigating judges and the Trial Chamber to drop accusations against suspects.
At a plenary session of the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia (ECCC) on Friday, the judges adopted new rules allowing co-investigating judges to exclude facts from a submission and the Trial Chamber to omit parts of an indictment, after prosecutors proposed the change in March.
According to a statement released by the ECCC on Friday, the move is aimed at expediting proceedings against former Khmer Rouge leaders Khieu Samphan and Nuon Chea in Case 002, which contains such a vast number of accusations that many are likely to never be heard in the courtroom.
It will also allow the accusations against the four suspects in the government-opposed cases 003 and 004, which have yet to come before the tribunal, to be pared down.
Hong Kimsuon, national co-lawyer for the civil parties, said that any reduction in the scope of investigations could silence the voices of victims of the Pol Pot regime.
“We understand that the accused are getting old and could die soon and will then not have been found guilty,” he said.
“However, if certain facts of the civil parties are not heard, it will mean that not all civil parties reveal all of their suffering and facts from that time will be overlooked,” he added.
Mr. Kimsuon said he believed any omissions from the second phase of Case 002—which is due to restart on Wednesday after Khieu Samphan was rushed to the hospital during the first day of evidentiary hearings on January 8—could have ramifications for investigations in later cases.
“We are so sorry that the ECCC has decided to reduce the scope of investigations…it will have knock-on effects because some facts in Case 002/02 are also key facts in cases 003 and 004,” he said.
In March, the defense teams of Khieu Samphan and former navy chief Meas Muth strongly objected to the proposed rule change in separate internal memorandums, arguing that it could lead to political interference. The government has opposed investigations seen as too close to ex-Khmer Rouge members who currently hold office.
Despite opposition from some quarters, Panhavuth Long, a program officer for the Cambodian Justice Initiative, said he welcomed any move that would hasten the tribunal’s proceedings, which have been slow and costly since its inception.
“I welcome these decisions and I think this is the only way where you can move the investigations faster, and you also can hasten the proceedings when the case is at the hearing,” he said.
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.TheLazyMonk wrote:When / where is it? Anyone know of a schedule?
what;s the Khmer word for schedule. The big man wants this stopped, as it could, potentially effect his lads
Long drawn out stuff with International Lawyers.. A waste of money imo, very happy Duch is behind bars.
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Talking to Cambodians in the Bronx About the Khmer Rouge Genocide Tribunal on vice.com
Talking to Cambodians in the Bronx About the Khmer Rouge Genocide Tribunal on vice.com
prahocalypse now wrote:http://www.vice.com/read/i-talked-to-ca ... ibunal-402
Talking to Cambodians in the Bronx About the Khmer Rouge Genocide Tribunal on vice.com
"They stop listening to, they stop thinking about it, and they hate someone who are talking about it because they suffer so, so much."
Pin is so frustrated with the Cambodian courts' interference in the tribunal that he's stopped following, talking, and thinking about it.
Very interesting. Thanks for posting.Tong questioned the practicality of the tribunal, explaining that the age of the accused obscures the sense of justice within his community.
"They're so old. They will be found guilty," he explained. "That's the end result. But what is the punishment? How do you put punishment on men that are in their 80s? Maybe send them to prison, and hopefully they live another five or ten years."
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Former KR Official Ta Tith Charged With Genocide
by George Wright and Khuon Narim | December 10, 2015
Former Khmer Rouge official Yim Tith, more commonly known as Ta Tith, was on Wednesday charged with crimes including genocide in Case 004 at the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia (ECCC).
Ta Tith, who stands accused of a slew of crimes allegedly committed during his time as acting secretary of the Khmer Rouge’s Northwest Zone, is the first suspect to be charged by International Co-Investigating Judge Michael Bohlander since he took over from Judge Mark Harmon in August.
Along with genocide against the Khmer Krom, an ethnic minority from Southern Vietnam, Ta Tith is accused of a wide range of crimes against humanity including murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation, imprisonment, torture and forced marriage, according to a statement released by the ECCC.
Lars Olsen, a spokesman for the tribunal, said Ta Tith traveled from his home in Battambang province to face charges at the court on Wednesday.
“He was charged in person…at the court,” Mr. Olsen said. “After he was charged, he returned home with his lawyers and they now have full access to the case file and they can participate fully in the case.”
Mr. Olsen said he did not know whether an arrest warrant had been issued for Ta Tith.
The reclusive former cadre is believed to be responsible for crimes at more than 40 sites across the country. The alleged atrocities predominantly took place in the Northwest Zone, but also at sites in the Southwest Zone including the notorious Kraing Ta Chan security center in Takeo province, where an estimated 15,000 people perished.
Ta Tith is the fourth Khmer Rouge official to be charged in the government-opposed cases 003 and 004. Cambodian police have refused to execute arrest warrants issued by Judge Harmon last year for suspect Meas Muth, the Khmer Rouge navy commander, and Im Chaem, a former district chief.
Ta An—a deputy secretary in the regime’s Central Zone who stands accused alongside Ta Tith of running a network of security centers responsible for the deaths of some 140,000 people—has also been charged in Case 004.
Ta Tith made headlines in 2011 when reports emerged that American actress Angelina Jolie-Pitt had purchased land from the former Khmer Rouge official for her charitable foundation in Battambang.
Contacted after the charges were announced, Krom Mong, chief of Ta Tith’s home village of Toek Sap in Ratanak Mondol district’s Phlov Meas commune, said the former Khmer Rouge official rarely socialized with other locals.
“He is very old—he is about 82 or 83 years old—and he has problems with his eyes,” Mr. Mong said. “He is living with his wife and he has about 4 to 5 hectares of land.”
“He often stays at home and does not come outside to visit his neighbors,” he said, adding that Ta Tith moved to the village in 1998 after Khmer Rouge forces laid down their weapons in Samlot district.
“I can’t comment on him because I don’t know and didn’t see what he did in the past,” the village chief added.
Neither Ta Tith nor his lawyers could be reached on Wednesday.
Panhavuth Long, a court monitor with the Cambodian Justice Initiative, applauded the decision to charge Ta Tith, but said the likelihood of arrest or prosecution was low given ongoing government interference at the court.
“I would say that the elephant in the room is that the U.N. and the government need to address as soon as possible, or immediately, the political influence, as well as the non-cooperation from the Cambodian side.”
Despite the obstacles facing the court, Youk Chhang, executive director of the Documentation Center of Cambodia, said the charges against Ta Tith show that the tribunal is still seeking justice for the crimes committed during the Democratic Kampuchea period.
“Despite all the storms, the floods, the court still stands and justice still stands, and that is something that perhaps is hopeful for the future of Cambodia.”
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if i were in charge of this kr trial i'd just have all the accused (i know they are all guilty) thrown in centri garbage truck and disposed of at the landfill.
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There are good reasons why you weren't put in charge of the trial. Acting like that makes you no different to them.Master Donut Baker wrote:if i were in charge of this kr trial i'd just have all the accused (i know they are all guilty) thrown in centri garbage truck and disposed of at the landfill.
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https://www.foxnews.com/world/last-khme ... life-termsBy Sopheng Cheang | Associated Press wrote:Last Khmer Rouge leaders guilty of genocide, get life terms
PHNOM PENH, Cambodia — The last surviving leaders of the communist Khmer Rouge regime that brutally ruled Cambodia in the 1970s were convicted of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes Friday by an international tribunal.
Khieu Samphan, left, former Khmer Rouge head of state, and Nuon Chea, who was the Khmer Rouge's chief ideologist and No. 2 leader, were convicted of crimes against humanity Friday by an international tribunal. (Associated Press)
Nuon Chea (NOO'-ahn CHEE'-ah) and Khieu Samphan (KEE'-yoh sahm-PAHN') were sentenced to life in prison, the same punishment they are already serving after earlier convictions at a previous trial for crimes against humanity connected with forced transfers and mass disappearances. Cambodia has no death penalty.
oth men have suggested they were targets of political persecution. Nuon Chea was considered the main ideologist of the Khmer Rouge and the right-hand man of the group's late leader, Pol Pot, while Khieu Samphan served as the head of state, presenting a moderate veneer as the public face for the highly secretive group.
The verdict read aloud in the courtroom by Judge Nil Nonn established that the Khmer Rouge committed genocide against the Vietnamese and Cham minorities. Scholars had debated whether suppression of the Chams, a Muslim ethnic minority whose members had put up a small but futile resistance against the Khmer Rouge, amounted to genocide.
Members of the Cham community were among the large crowd of spectators who attended Friday's session.
The court found Khieu Samphan not guilty of genocide against the Cham, for insuffient evidence, though he was convicted of genocide against the Vietnamese under the principle of joint criminal enterprise, which holds individuals responsible for actions attributed to a group to which they belong.
The Khmer Rouge sought to achieve an agrarian utopia by emptying the cities to establish vast rural communes. Instead their radical policies led to what has been termed "auto-genocide" through starvation, overwork and execution.
The crimes against humanity convictions covered activities at work camps and cooperatives established by the Khmer Rouge. These offenses comprised murder, extermination, deportation, enslavement, imprisonment, torture, persecution on political, religious and racial grounds, attacks on human dignity, enforced disappearances, forced transfers, forced marriages and rape.
The breaches of the Geneva Convention governing war crimes included willful killing, torture or inhumane treatment.
One of the spectators at Friday's hearing was 65-year-old Sum Rithy, who said he had been jailed for nearly two years under the Khmer Rouge, who accused him of being a spy for the CIA. His life was spared only because he was a skilled mechanic who could maintain engines and generators for his captors.
Rithy said three of his siblings were killed by the Khmer Rouge, also accused of being CIA spies, while his father died of starvation.
"Today, I am very happy that the both Khmer Rouge leaders were sentenced to life in prison. The verdict was fair enough for me and other Cambodian victims," he said. "Last night, I could not sleep because I was afraid that Nuon Chea and Khieu Samphan could die before this verdict was announced."
Nuon Chea, 92, was brought by ambulance and Khieu Samphan by van to the courthouse from the nearby prison where they are held. The prison and the courthouse were custom built for the use of the tribunal, which is officially called the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia, or ECCC.
Nuon Chea, who suffers heart problems, was allowed to move from the hearing room to a separate holding room. Khieu Samphan, 87, was present for the entire hearing and with the help of two security guards stood as his sentence was read, showing no obvious emotion.
Lawyers for Nuon Chea said they would appeal, and Khieu Samphan was expected to do the same.
In addition to the two, the tribunal in 2010 convicted Kaing Guek Eav, known as Duch, who as head of the Khmer Rouge prison system ran the infamous Tuol Sleng torture center in Phnom Penh.
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