Dale of Cambodia.
- Lucky Lucan
- K440 Knight Captain
- Reactions: 761
- Posts: 22525
- Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:24 pm
- Location: The Pearl of the Orient
Dale of Cambodia.
This is quite an amazing story with lots of old footage:
1
1
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
-
- Damn, I just saw my Internet Bill !
- Reactions: 3
- Posts: 4420
- Joined: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:04 pm
Great footage, thanks for sharing. Was it him that had the lunch with the prince? He didn't talk about it. I keep thinking I recognise some places especially but then realize I probably don't as things have changed too much. Those smiles at the end are timeless and in my case, remind me in part of why I stayed. I sometimes wonder if urbanization, modernization and globalization will eventually erase those smiles. One of the reasons why I spend so much time in the countryside.
- Lucky Lucan
- K440 Knight Captain
- Reactions: 761
- Posts: 22525
- Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:24 pm
- Location: The Pearl of the Orient
He might have done, but that was James Fenton who wrote about having lunch with Prince Norodom Chantaraingsey.LexusSchmexus wrote: Was it him that had the lunch with the prince?
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
-
- I've got nothing better to do
- Reactions: 0
- Posts: 90
- Joined: Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:45 pm
Thank you for finding this LL.
But god it was heart-breaking.
'I knew at once that they were great people' (Spencer Dale) ... exactly right.
Watching the footage, I could almost smell everything from that time.
And, as LexusShmexus has commented, those smiles, those smiles. Those smiles and faces of people who understood exactly what was going on and who were fighting to save their nation and people from the horrors of the communists only for them all to be stabbed in the back by not just the new Australian Labor government of late 1972 that Spencer Davis alluded to, but also by the entire anti-war movement as exemplified by the despicable Tom Hayden and his followers such as forum member JM.
But god it was heart-breaking.
'I knew at once that they were great people' (Spencer Dale) ... exactly right.
Watching the footage, I could almost smell everything from that time.
And, as LexusShmexus has commented, those smiles, those smiles. Those smiles and faces of people who understood exactly what was going on and who were fighting to save their nation and people from the horrors of the communists only for them all to be stabbed in the back by not just the new Australian Labor government of late 1972 that Spencer Davis alluded to, but also by the entire anti-war movement as exemplified by the despicable Tom Hayden and his followers such as forum member JM.
.
* my 99 cent Kindle memories of 1974 CAMBODIA: http://www.amazon.co.uk/EXPLAINING-CAMB ... B00L0LC8TO *
* my 99 cent Kindle memories of 1974 CAMBODIA: http://www.amazon.co.uk/EXPLAINING-CAMB ... B00L0LC8TO *
karmageddon1 wrote:... that Spencer Davis alluded to...
"Not my circus, not my monkeys" - KiR
I think a few 440 members have lifted this guy's story as their own
Rated R for Ricecakes
You can't realistically ridicule people for being anti-war, can you? I hope nobody is ever pro-war just for the sake of war. Sometimes brutal military action may be the least-worst option in a basket of horrendous other options. Much more often than not, things can somehow get resolved without resorting to such drastic and deadly actions (the US-Soviet Cuban missile crisis comes to mind). Staunchly believing you know which is the correct course of action at the time is the hobgoblin of a foolish mind. You only have opinions. Of course, every swinging dick is a know-it-all expert in hindsight. Super easy to castigate others for making decisions or voicing opinions that later seem incomprehensible when you refuse to fully fathom all the other possible disastrous outcomes.karmageddon1 wrote:Those smiles and faces of people who understood exactly what was going on and who were fighting to save their nation and people from the horrors of the communists only for them all to be stabbed in the back by not just the new Australian Labor government of late 1972 that Spencer Davis alluded to, but also by the entire anti-war movement as exemplified by the despicable Tom Hayden and his followers such as forum member ...
Was Neville Chamberlain wrong for trying to avoid WW2 knowing what we know now?
Were the American isolationists wrong for trying to stay out of WW2 knowing what we know now?
Were anti-war protestors wrong for trying to prevent/end the Vietnam War knowing what we know now?
Were the Americans (and some others) wrong for then ending military support for the Cambodian government in the mid-1970s knowing what we know now?
Were anti-war protestors wrong for trying to prevent the US invasion of Iraq knowing what we know now? (Okay - that is an easy one. We all knew that totally unnecessary war was going to be the ultimate disastrous fuck-story of all time long before it happened).
Insane to blame anti-war protestors for anything, ever. Almost all times they're on the right side of history. Although when they do occasionally get it wrong, things can get much more complicated due to delayed response to impending conflict. I think that is a moral trade-off most people can comfortably accept.
"The final straw actually involved my mortal enemy vladimir, who you may or may not know is an insufferable, overposting asshat."
My name is Mike and I'm the producer of the 'Dale of Cambodia' YouTube Video. This is a remarkable Cambodian story that needs to be told in its entirety. Over the past few years Spencer and I have been approaching production companies for expressions of interest in producing a full feature documentary on his unique adventure.
We have now changed our attitude towards following this path as understandably no one wants to take on the financial risk of covering a story that does not appear to have mainstream appeal with little commercial return. Spencer captured several hours of high quality 8mm movie film, none of which has ever been released in over 40 years. Our plan now is to tell his story via YouTube in small bite size chunks and slowly build an audience and awareness of this tragic time in Cambodian history. The story therefore is not profit driven but to ensure it is not forever lost because someone couldn't make a buck from it.
Many young Cambodians have expressed interest in hearing more of what took place during those war years, especially concerning General Chantarangsey who was considered to be a hero figure by many. I think every Cambodian has experienced the lost of a family member or relative and Spencer's motivation in Cambodia was to help a people that he fell in love with rather than just collecting war footage for western media.
Spencer rubbed shoulders with numerous high ranking Generals including Chantarangsey during that time and has detailed information on what actually took place behind the scenes. Much of what will be told is somewhat different to that expressed by the mainstream media. We plan to come back to Cambodia sometime in 2018 to do more filming for this project, so I'm just reaching out to help build momentum towards having Spencer's full story unfold and made freely available to as many people as possible. Any assistance from members of this group would be greatly appreciated.
We have now changed our attitude towards following this path as understandably no one wants to take on the financial risk of covering a story that does not appear to have mainstream appeal with little commercial return. Spencer captured several hours of high quality 8mm movie film, none of which has ever been released in over 40 years. Our plan now is to tell his story via YouTube in small bite size chunks and slowly build an audience and awareness of this tragic time in Cambodian history. The story therefore is not profit driven but to ensure it is not forever lost because someone couldn't make a buck from it.
Many young Cambodians have expressed interest in hearing more of what took place during those war years, especially concerning General Chantarangsey who was considered to be a hero figure by many. I think every Cambodian has experienced the lost of a family member or relative and Spencer's motivation in Cambodia was to help a people that he fell in love with rather than just collecting war footage for western media.
Spencer rubbed shoulders with numerous high ranking Generals including Chantarangsey during that time and has detailed information on what actually took place behind the scenes. Much of what will be told is somewhat different to that expressed by the mainstream media. We plan to come back to Cambodia sometime in 2018 to do more filming for this project, so I'm just reaching out to help build momentum towards having Spencer's full story unfold and made freely available to as many people as possible. Any assistance from members of this group would be greatly appreciated.
- The third man
- 440 Member in Exile
- Reactions: 0
- Posts: 498
- Joined: Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:28 pm
Anti war protesters saved tens of thousands of lives. Most Americans were killed in the last years of the war when there was light at the end of the tunnel and peace was at hand. The whole thing was a fraud and anyone who believes otherwise is a fool.
Many thanks for your support. I will keep the group informed on our progress.Miguelito wrote:Welcome to the forum Mike. I've sent you a private message -- hopefully we can help you promote it in some ways.
Spencer is very keen to start moving on this project and I have many hours of existing interviews with him in addition to the 8mm film dating 1971 to 1975 in Cambodia.
-
- Similar Topics
- Replies
- Views
- Last post
-
-
Immigration checks, Cambodia begins using "Foreigner Presence in Cambodia" system to track foreigners
by Bong Burgundy » Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:11 pm » in Cambodia Speakeasy - 13 Replies
- 16049 Views
-
Last post by telescopic
Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:21 am
-
-
-
How many of you are still in Cambodia?
by MarkinAston » Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:02 pm » in Cambodia Speakeasy - 29 Replies
- 9756 Views
-
Last post by MarkinAston
Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:09 pm
-
-
- 52 Replies
- 16955 Views
-
Last post by TheRaven
Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:58 pm
-
- 97 Replies
- 24570 Views
-
Last post by ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ
Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:07 pm
-
-
G7 Meeting - what's new for us in Cambodia ?
by Expatissimo » Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:25 pm » in Cambodia Speakeasy - 0 Replies
- 611 Views
-
Last post by Expatissimo
Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:25 pm
-