David Miller and Hannah Witheridge murdered on Koh Tao beach
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I haven't read Thai Visa in a long time, but don't they censor basically everything negative about Thailand? What the hell is this doing up??pdotty wrote:december 2012 there was a similar case on koh phangan.
the israeli women could escape. she bit him into the face.
herself is described as having severe face injuries, too.
arrested was a burmese trash collector - and he didnt have any bite marks in the face.
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/588 ... h-phangan/
i believe, they always know who has done it.
its not only, that they talk too much, its also, that nothing happens, without someone watching it.
ppl have a lot of time, not necessarily 90% of the population sleeps here at night, compared to the west.
perhaps... the employees get told to move on, after working for a free 6 months or so.
in return that the owner keeps quiet.
nobody wants to have their guesthouse name linked to employing a rapist/killer.
then they start over at another island/place - with the same sort of crime.
could imagine such a thing happening...
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they released a "picture" of a "suspect", who happened to manage his way onto a cctv cam that night...
its the person on the right pic.
the pic seems from 15-09-2014 / 01:51 am
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(thai TV reported)
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means, he was wearing jeans at the time of the assault.
its the person on the right pic.
the pic seems from 15-09-2014 / 01:51 am
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no, wait... its just another "rumour" - though, even comes with a pic in the dailymailMr Miller's blood-soaked jeans 'were found in home of one of the suspects'
(thai TV reported)
Evidence: This pair of blood-soaked jeans reportedly belonging to Mr Miller were allegedly found in one of the suspects' apartments, although police have not confirmed the reports
Clues: Another picture shows an iPhone allegedly belonging to one of the victims which was reportedly found in a suspect's home
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... beach.htmlPolice said Miss Witheridge and Mr Miller could be seen on CCTV leaving a bar together at around 1am before walking onto the beach.
Their bodies were discovered just a few yards apart at around 6.30am yesterday and some of their clothing was found nearby.
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means, he was wearing jeans at the time of the assault.
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meantime, after it became unavoidable, also thailisa runs the story...
from another media-source:
sounds, as if there is more cctv of suspects ? (from the nation, afp)
in the DM was also said, the girl was hit multiple times into the face with the thing.
thats very unusual.
on thaivisa someone wrote
from another media-source:
the crime scene is (according to someone on TV) 50 meters from the next police station.The police confiscated four mobile phones from the suspects, one of which was a broken iPhone, and will examine them to determine if any of the phones belonged to the murdered victims.
The suspects' clothes were also seized, while police have been questioning them to look for any signs pointing that they had a hand in the murders.
sounds, as if there is more cctv of suspects ? (from the nation, afp)
they stayed at the " Ocean Ville resort"However, Kiattiphong said surveillance camera footage also showed an Asian man fleeing the scene at 3am, which prompted investigators to initially believe there might be a sole attacker. Police believed he could possibly have been a migrant worker or fishing-trawler crewman.
in the DM was also said, the girl was hit multiple times into the face with the thing.
thats very unusual.
on thaivisa someone wrote
This is not your average rape murder case. Whoever did this needs apprehending asap as they are either deranged or full of rage.
This is based on seeing the uncensored pictures of the female victim. Horrific
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it seems there is reported, that there was a struggle before the murder.
google translate:
google translate:
original:The scene at the beach, the pointed rocks. Paid online.'s Sairee village 2., Koh Tao found dead tourists. Nation's First European style 2 dead woman's name. Sector. Hannah naked 24 year old British national, was hit in the face with a sharp, solid and well screwed. And there are signs of being raped at 20 meters the rocks are dead men lying naked face down in the water. Later the name was Mr David, 24 years old from England. State was hit with a sharp wounds to the neck and neck until the skull is broken. And about 5 meters away from the body for signs of fighting and blood on the sand. Including slippers, pink and gray shorts. Shirt White Underwear Fall And next up on the beach about 20 meters across and a spade a bloody red sack and leave them under the pines. Condom use and found one piece officials kept as evidence.
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It's the girlfriend of the guy in question. She paid a Thai hitman who dressed up as a Burmese then planted the bloody jeans and broken iPhone in a Burmese dudes place. Same guy did Glenn in Cambodia, he's very much in demand...pdotty wrote:Police said Miss Witheridge and Mr Miller could be seen on CCTV leaving a bar together at around 1am before walking onto the beach.
Their bodies were discovered just a few yards apart at around 6.30am yesterday and some of their clothing was found nearby.
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That woman on the right looks like she has pretty dark hair for a blonde, and the "suspect" on the right looks like a Thai woman in a white dress.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
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i also have trouble to see this cctv pic as the victims.
apart from the hair color and appearance.
just guessing, i wouldnt have thought, she was wearing her hair that blunt to a party.
also, western women are not "pulled behind" that way... they are used to keep pace.
the guy even seems to have somewhat a belly?
the victim was VERY slim.
suspect - yes, like a women with the full hair (style).
think, they just tried to find a pic that doesnt look like a thai male...
apart from the hair color and appearance.
just guessing, i wouldnt have thought, she was wearing her hair that blunt to a party.
also, western women are not "pulled behind" that way... they are used to keep pace.
the guy even seems to have somewhat a belly?
the victim was VERY slim.
suspect - yes, like a women with the full hair (style).
think, they just tried to find a pic that doesnt look like a thai male...
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ok, i came to my conclusion.
it was someone from the ocean resort, where she stayed.
definitely, someone who has met her before.
you probably dont really know how that guys are.
they get obsessed. yes, they do wait and lure. hours and hours and hours - with this, they are really tireless.
whatever you do or dont do, they will believe you have waited all your life for them. she might have not known this and perhaps, how easily, someone got into high hopes.
he was hanging around for her that night, hoping she was drunk enough and he would have the chance.
the crime scene was very close to their bungalows.
when the two came back, he watched them.
thats why she got that many hits into the face.
yes, this was a crime out of jealousy/passion.
it was someone from the ocean resort, where she stayed.
definitely, someone who has met her before.
you probably dont really know how that guys are.
they get obsessed. yes, they do wait and lure. hours and hours and hours - with this, they are really tireless.
whatever you do or dont do, they will believe you have waited all your life for them. she might have not known this and perhaps, how easily, someone got into high hopes.
he was hanging around for her that night, hoping she was drunk enough and he would have the chance.
the crime scene was very close to their bungalows.
when the two came back, he watched them.
thats why she got that many hits into the face.
yes, this was a crime out of jealousy/passion.
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the colleagues on thaivisa who saw the crime scene pics commented the following..
- the body of the male victim was "intact"
- the girls face was completely destroyed and she was clearly the center of the attack
- none of them had defense wounds (hands etc)
- it looked, as someone walking in, killing them with big force
- the cctv picture doesnt show the victims. the male on the pic has a tattoo on the arm and those who saw the crime scene pics confirm, the victim didnt have any tatoos. also, the cctv guy has a beard.
so, thai police deliberately circulates false cctv pics.
the three burmese workers have been ruled out, meantime.
perhaps, it werent three perpetrators. possibly just another deliberate false lead by the thai police.
the video seems to show at the end, that the bungalows (they stayed in K8 and A5) are really just a very few meters away. from the veranda you can watch the crime scene (so it looks to me).
- the body of the male victim was "intact"
- the girls face was completely destroyed and she was clearly the center of the attack
- none of them had defense wounds (hands etc)
- it looked, as someone walking in, killing them with big force
- the cctv picture doesnt show the victims. the male on the pic has a tattoo on the arm and those who saw the crime scene pics confirm, the victim didnt have any tatoos. also, the cctv guy has a beard.
so, thai police deliberately circulates false cctv pics.
the three burmese workers have been ruled out, meantime.
perhaps, it werent three perpetrators. possibly just another deliberate false lead by the thai police.
the video seems to show at the end, that the bungalows (they stayed in K8 and A5) are really just a very few meters away. from the veranda you can watch the crime scene (so it looks to me).
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the pictures have been removed, but when you google https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=reddi ... CAYQ_AUoAQ, you will see two censored pics.
they were removed from here http://www.phoenixism.net/?p=16389
apparently on reddit, there were more uncensored pics.
this could be the owner of the ocean view guesthouse, where they stayed
they were removed from here http://www.phoenixism.net/?p=16389
apparently on reddit, there were more uncensored pics.
this could be the owner of the ocean view guesthouse, where they stayed
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\ahh now here we go;Hunt for killers of British pair goes on after Thai police free Myanmar suspects
BANGKOK, September 17, 2014 (AFP) - Thai police Tuesday ruled out three Myanmar workers in connection with the murder of two young British tourists, as Thailand's military ruler appeared to call into question the "behaviour" of the victims themselves.
The bodies of David Miller, 24, and Hannah Witheridge, 23, arrived in Bangkok late Tuesday for forensic examination.
They were found naked and beaten to death early Monday near a beachside bungalow on the island, a diving hot-spot near Koh Phangan in the Gulf of Thailand.
A bloodied hoe was discovered 35 metres (yards) from the murder scene.
Three male Myanmar migrant workers were held for questioning but ruled out of the probe later on Tuesday, southern regional police commander Panya Maman told AFP.
its was THEIR FAULT they were attacked an killed, no way would "happy" thais do this ..
WTF
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http://www.nationmultimedia.com/nationa ... 43457.htmln Tuesday, Thai junta chief and prime minister Prayut Chan-O-Cha appeared to call into question the victims' conduct in addition to the perpetrators of the attack.
"We have to look into the behaviour of the other party too because this kind of incident should not happen to anybody and it has affected our image," he told reporters, referring to the two tourists
Yesterday, Prime Minister General Prayuth Chan-ocha said "We have to look into the behaviour of the other party too, because this kind of incident should not happen to anybody and it has affected our image," he told reporters, adding the authorities were working "swiftly" to find the killers.
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"We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer." HST
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yeaahhh... they really "did wrong"...
...they crossed the way of a violent birdbrain in thailand.
the thai prime minister:
...they crossed the way of a violent birdbrain in thailand.
the thai prime minister:
http://news.uk.msn.com/thai-police-sear ... d-on-beachBut what you (the media) need to help do is to explain to them (foreigners). Sometimes, they don't know that it is not always safe everywhere. They think it's safe like in their home country, everywhere and at any time, while our country still has problems."
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i would like to know, if they have taken DNA samples of ALL employees at the ocean view guesthouse PLUS the whole and extended family of the owner - by any chance even before the burma-workers were tested.
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