Marrying a Cambodian Citizen in Singapore
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so basically ur saying, i can get the application fill it out, both of us sign it, travel to Japan alone, with her passport, id card and single paper translated to English and than get it translated to Japanese;, my single paper from us embassy
go to city hall an marry? How long would that all take?
WOW
go to city hall an marry? How long would that all take?
WOW
"We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer." HST
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Phuket2006,
You don't need her ID card (though it won't hurt). You also need to bring her birth certificate and birth certificate extract. Also no need to translate it into English first. Straight from Khmer to Japanese.
If you have all the necessary documents and the Japanese translations before you come to Japan then you should be able to do it on the same day.
Just go to the city hall, they will check your documents and input the info into the computer. This took about 20 minutes when I did it.
Then wait for them to print your marriage certificates, about another 20 mins or so depending on how busy that particular city hall is.
It took me less than one hour in total.
So to summarize:
Marriage application form filled out and signed by the both of you
For your Cambodian partner
-single certificate
-birth certificate and birth certificate extract
-passport or copy of passport photo page (notarized) to prove nationality
For you (US citizen)
Check with US embassy in Japan about necessary documents
http://japan.usembassy.gov/mobile/e/acs/tacs-7114a.html
-It seems to just be Affadavit of Competency to Marry as far as I can tell
Then get all of the above translated into Japanese (with a certificate of translation if possible)
If you do all of that in Thailand before you come it should just be a matter of handing over the documents.
*I just checked the website for the US Embassy in Japan for you and the Affidavit of Competency to Marry costs $50. Unfortunately it doesn't say how long it takes for them to issue that but it says that since it is a notarial service you have to make an appointment and go in person. It says you have to do this at the embassy or consulate of your home country on Japan so you couldn't do this step before you come to Japan unfortunately. However, I'm sure even waiting for that and translating it into Japanese shouldn't be longer than a week and I'm certain that would still be less hassle than Cambodia.
You don't need her ID card (though it won't hurt). You also need to bring her birth certificate and birth certificate extract. Also no need to translate it into English first. Straight from Khmer to Japanese.
If you have all the necessary documents and the Japanese translations before you come to Japan then you should be able to do it on the same day.
Just go to the city hall, they will check your documents and input the info into the computer. This took about 20 minutes when I did it.
Then wait for them to print your marriage certificates, about another 20 mins or so depending on how busy that particular city hall is.
It took me less than one hour in total.
So to summarize:
Marriage application form filled out and signed by the both of you
For your Cambodian partner
-single certificate
-birth certificate and birth certificate extract
-passport or copy of passport photo page (notarized) to prove nationality
For you (US citizen)
Check with US embassy in Japan about necessary documents
http://japan.usembassy.gov/mobile/e/acs/tacs-7114a.html
-It seems to just be Affadavit of Competency to Marry as far as I can tell
Then get all of the above translated into Japanese (with a certificate of translation if possible)
If you do all of that in Thailand before you come it should just be a matter of handing over the documents.
*I just checked the website for the US Embassy in Japan for you and the Affidavit of Competency to Marry costs $50. Unfortunately it doesn't say how long it takes for them to issue that but it says that since it is a notarial service you have to make an appointment and go in person. It says you have to do this at the embassy or consulate of your home country on Japan so you couldn't do this step before you come to Japan unfortunately. However, I'm sure even waiting for that and translating it into Japanese shouldn't be longer than a week and I'm certain that would still be less hassle than Cambodia.
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".... It says you have to do this at the embassy or consulate of your home country on Japan so you couldn't do this step before you come to Japan unfortunately."
so i couldn't get it in Bangkok?? that sucks
the us consolute sends a rep to phuket 4 times/year and i get affidavits here for my visa from them and Yep $50 /shot
"....and birth certificate extract.... " what is that?
so i couldn't get it in Bangkok?? that sucks
the us consolute sends a rep to phuket 4 times/year and i get affidavits here for my visa from them and Yep $50 /shot
"....and birth certificate extract.... " what is that?
"We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer." HST
When I went back down from Thailand through Malaysia it was a huge culture shock to arrive back in Singapore, where I'd previously flown into six months earlier.
I can imagine taking my wife there (who's never been anywhere) she'd be freaked out, more so than I was.
(Didn't mean to "like" my own post)
I can imagine taking my wife there (who's never been anywhere) she'd be freaked out, more so than I was.
(Didn't mean to "like" my own post)
pew, pew, pew, pew!
I was wondering the same thing, what is a Birth Certificate Extract?
I'm not a negative person, I encourage people all the time...it's usually to f**k off! But, whatever.
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An EXTRACT of birth is just that.
It is an official document EXTRACTING certain information from the actual official record of birth but not showing the same full information as that that which may be shown on the original registration of the birth.
As an official document issued by a national or state Registrar of Births, Deaths or Marriages, or equivalent, it is accepted in lieu of the original birth certificate which may have been lost or destroyed or, indeed, never even applied for.
OML
It is an official document EXTRACTING certain information from the actual official record of birth but not showing the same full information as that that which may be shown on the original registration of the birth.
As an official document issued by a national or state Registrar of Births, Deaths or Marriages, or equivalent, it is accepted in lieu of the original birth certificate which may have been lost or destroyed or, indeed, never even applied for.
OML
There's an Extract birth certificate and Full birth certificate.
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YaTingPom wrote:There's an Extract birth certificate and Full birth certificate.
she says needed;
why would u need both? if this is true.birth certificate and birth certificate extract
It is an official document EXTRACTING certain information from the actual official record of birth but not showing the same full information as that that which may be shown on the original registration of the birth.
i have never heard of one,
My Khmer gf LOVED Singapore an wasn't shocked at all.
Sentosa thrilled her
"We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer." HST
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Phuket2006,
Regarding the Affidavit to Marry check with the US Embassy in Japan whether you can get it in Bangkok.
The way it was worded on their website made it seem like you had to do it in Japan though. One side of the form is in English and the other side is left blank to be translated into Japanese which I think is included in the $50 fee, that's what I could gather from the website.
About the birth certificate and birth certificate extract more specifically, the city hall was given sample documents necessary to complete a marriage in Japan from the Cambodian Embassy in Japan 8 years ago so they just care about following protocol and whether what you hand in looks the same as what they've been told to accept or is acceptable.
I don't know why but the Cambodian Embassy in Japan seems to think that the birth certificate extract is necessary.
My partner was able to get his parents to get one from the local commune on his behalf as he works in SR and his hometown is nowhere near.
I have photos of all the sample documents but I don't know if there's a way to attach photos on this site. It's probably really obvious and I'm just being a dunce. So, if someone could explain how to do that or if you're comfortable with direct messaging me with your email address I can attach the sample document photos and send them to you by email.
Unfortunately, I wrote in English on top "Birth certificate in Khmer" on both the birth certificate and birth certificate extract samples as the lady at the city hall and myself didn't know which one is which but if you show your partner she will know immediately what we are talking about as they are in Khmer.
When I sent my partner the sample photos written in Khmer he understood straight away
Regarding the Affidavit to Marry check with the US Embassy in Japan whether you can get it in Bangkok.
The way it was worded on their website made it seem like you had to do it in Japan though. One side of the form is in English and the other side is left blank to be translated into Japanese which I think is included in the $50 fee, that's what I could gather from the website.
About the birth certificate and birth certificate extract more specifically, the city hall was given sample documents necessary to complete a marriage in Japan from the Cambodian Embassy in Japan 8 years ago so they just care about following protocol and whether what you hand in looks the same as what they've been told to accept or is acceptable.
I don't know why but the Cambodian Embassy in Japan seems to think that the birth certificate extract is necessary.
My partner was able to get his parents to get one from the local commune on his behalf as he works in SR and his hometown is nowhere near.
I have photos of all the sample documents but I don't know if there's a way to attach photos on this site. It's probably really obvious and I'm just being a dunce. So, if someone could explain how to do that or if you're comfortable with direct messaging me with your email address I can attach the sample document photos and send them to you by email.
Unfortunately, I wrote in English on top "Birth certificate in Khmer" on both the birth certificate and birth certificate extract samples as the lady at the city hall and myself didn't know which one is which but if you show your partner she will know immediately what we are talking about as they are in Khmer.
When I sent my partner the sample photos written in Khmer he understood straight away
Thanks for the information everyone. So you can get married outside of Cambodia to a Cambodian women (I am over 55) but it will not be recognized in Cambodia which is not a problem personally. But now if you -both return to your respective countries, for me it would be the US and the lady to Cambodia how do you now process the the I-130 for her to immigrate to the US? I suspect you would not need the paper work from the Cambodian government proving she is single or eligible to be married because she already married? Thanks.
I'm not sure how the US law works, but if you're both legally married in another country, the US should recognize the marriage. This is how it works in the UK.csosdny wrote:Thanks for the information everyone. So you can get married outside of Cambodia to a Cambodian women (I am over 55) but it will not be recognized in Cambodia which is not a problem personally. But now if you -both return to your respective countries, for me it would be the US and the lady to Cambodia how do you now process the the I-130 for her to immigrate to the US? I suspect you would not need the paper work from the Cambodian government proving she is single or eligible to be married because she already married? Thanks.
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Oz has a "Try Before You Buy" visa.
I thought USA has too.
I thought USA has too.
Go to the US embassy where they will inform you IMHO that you are not legally married.
They will do all they can to stop you from bringing her into the country if she is younger (child bearing age) to stop you from having children that can collect SS payments upon your demise.
Doesn't sound right for a country that exposes all the freedom and democracy. Go and ask I think you'll be surprised to find that out It's BS, of coarse they won't come right out and say that but you'll get the hint after some time.
Unless you wealthy.
They will do all they can to stop you from bringing her into the country if she is younger (child bearing age) to stop you from having children that can collect SS payments upon your demise.
Doesn't sound right for a country that exposes all the freedom and democracy. Go and ask I think you'll be surprised to find that out It's BS, of coarse they won't come right out and say that but you'll get the hint after some time.
Unless you wealthy.
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