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Access to Bokor Hill station

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:00 pm
by Katkando
Tried to get up there last week - no can do (even after offering the guy on the gate $10 to let me through!!).

I was told by 4 different sources that there is heavy construction going on and they don't want the aggro of dealing with tourist who get hurt/killed by the huge lorries ploughing up and down the mountain all day.

At present, the only way up is with a tour.

Please let me know if anyone hears differently.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:10 pm
by drj
Sunday night and we just got backfrom there. We tried a $100.00 "donation" and still couldn't get through. We were told (I think) that there are not even tours going up any more. Had a lovely time on Rabbit Island instead.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:06 pm
by doktor_d
Anyone know if Bokor is accessible for tourists now?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:07 pm
by hanky
Still closed, they let a few people up over Khmer New Year. The good news is that it should be finished in about 15 years.

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Artists impression of Bokor in the near future.



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Thanks to Andy Brouwer. http://www.andybrouwer.co.uk/blog/2009_ ... chive.html

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:20 pm
by doktor_d
What the hell.. They're going to ruin the place :shock:

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:48 pm
by eight
hanky wrote:Still closed, they let a few people up over Khmer New Year. The good news is that it should be finished in about 15 years.

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Artists impression of Bokor in the near future.



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Thanks to Andy Brouwer. http://www.andybrouwer.co.uk/blog/2009_ ... chive.html



And that is just stage one.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:55 pm
by doktor_d
Why would people want something like that in a far away place like bokor? Unless they build an airport with direct connection to mainland China wont the Chinese just go to Macau? There's not even enough tourists in Cambodia to make Phnom Penh look crowded or busy.. How are they going to fill this place?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:12 pm
by SunSan
doktor_d wrote:Why would people want something like that in a far away place like bokor? Unless they build an airport with direct connection to mainland China wont the Chinese just go to Macau? There's not even enough tourists in Cambodia to make Phnom Penh look crowded or busy.. How are they going to fill this place?

You're quite right. It's not for the Chinese. It's more for the people in the region, SEA. Even though some of them too have their own casinos or are building them.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:59 pm
by doktor_d
SunSan wrote:It's more for the people in the region, SEA.


So Thais, Khmers, Vietnamese and Laotians are going to fill up these $200-500 a night hotels and spend hundreds of dollars in the Casinos? What's the minimum bet in the PP Casino? $5? (or was it $2? I don't remember) Last time I was there it was about 100 people there. 99% of which looked and sounded very Chinese. If the "people in the region, SEA" don't gamble much in PP, why is it assumed that they will travel all the way up to Bokor to gamble?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:23 pm
by slov92
hanky wrote:The good news is that it should be finished in about 15 years.


I was up there over Khmer New Year - the only thing that has been constructed as far as I could see was the sign!

It smelt of poo and there was loads of rubbish everywhere.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:02 pm
by Starving Pelican
is this reminding anyone else of that dodgy bokor casino redevelopment in the film City of Ghosts?

does anyone expect to believe this place would fill up its rooms? china has macau, malaysia and indonesia have genting (and now singapore soon), the only patrons would be the viets and the thais who probably wouldnt even bother with bokor unless it was fast and easy to get to.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:58 am
by doktor_d
Starving Pelican wrote:is this reminding anyone else of that dodgy bokor casino redevelopment in the film City of Ghosts?


I was thinking the same thing! :D It even looks slightly similar.

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If only it were just a scheme to swindle some investors out of their money and in the end Bokor remains just the way it is now.. :pissed:

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:59 am
by SunSan
Hey, I didn't say it'd actually fill up! I just said that's the target market.

There'll be more than just the casino. Lots of rides, I think 36 holes of golf, a cable car up the mountain. It'll be a family place.

The investor is Sokha or it's parent company, not sure.

I couldn't care less whether it's successful or not.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:04 pm
by eight
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So Thais, Khmers, Vietnamese and Laotians are going to fill up these $200-500 a night hotels and spend hundreds of dollars /quote]


Wont be hard to do, with the fall of the USA empire, and the USA $ trading at $1 to 1 yuan, and the rest of the world trading in ''Islamic dollars ''




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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:51 pm
by hanky
The casino wasnt that popular when it was originally started up there, too far to drive so people went to the Kep casino instead. There has been talk in the papers about building a new port at Kampot for the million or so cruise visitors someone imagines are going to start arriving and going up there. Dream on. :-D