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Re: Where to start becoming an English Teacher

Postby Alexandra » Wed May 16, 2018 11:23 am

violet wrote:^asking that question of one school in isolation gives a skewed insight. Why not go poll all schools of interest and report back findings?


There's history here and here.

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Re: Where to start becoming an English Teacher

Postby ReasonstobefearfulP3 » Wed May 16, 2018 11:32 am

violet wrote:It can, yes. However knowing what a school does and doesn't do...drug testing, background checks ,etc. in the context of the environment - comparing and contrasting with others - is more useful. Don't you agree?


Yes, would be hard not to agree with that statement.

However, whilst I don't know epidemiks and have never knowingly met him, I think I am safe in presuming that he is not going to poll every school in Cambodia on their hiring policies.

With that in mind I would say, as is almost entirely the case, that some information is better than no information
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Re: Where to start becoming an English Teacher

Postby Miguelito » Wed May 16, 2018 11:43 am

violet wrote:^asking that question of one school in isolation gives a skewed insight. Why not go poll all schools of interest and report back findings?


I think that it's a fair question, especially considering that based on this this thread all schools may be required to do this.

He's asking Home of English because someone posted from there on this thread, and because of their past history. It's a pretty straight forward question, what's the issue?

If a restaurateur were asked "do you ensure that all of your shellfish are properly handled?", you wouldn't say "whoa, this is Cambodia, let's check with all other restaurants as well as this is an unfair question without context." No, you would want to know if that oyster they're serving has been dead for the last two days or not, regardless of what other places are doing.
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Re: Where to start becoming an English Teacher

Postby epidemiks » Wed May 16, 2018 11:46 am

ReasonstobefearfulP3 wrote:
violet wrote:It can, yes. However knowing what a school does and doesn't do...drug testing, background checks ,etc. in the context of the environment - comparing and contrasting with others - is more useful. Don't you agree?


Yes, would be hard not to agree with that statement.

However, whilst I don't know epidemiks and have never knowingly met him, I think I am safe in presuming that he is not going to poll every school in Cambodia on their hiring policies.

With that in mind I would say, as is almost entirely the case, that some information is better than no information


Its nothing personal against the poster, or the school, and there is no other context needed besides his post.

He chimed in to defend the rigour of their no rif raff policy. Presumably they do this to protect students.

Requiring criminal record checks is notably absent from his reply, given its effectiveness in rooting out riff raff that have no place being given duty of care of other people's children.

Current climate or otherwise, there's no good reason to not develop and phase in a policy which requires it for the protection of children. It's really quite simple.

I haven't done a detailed audit of all international schools that require criminal record checks here.

There is no point: there are none*


* if there are any, none I have seen publish the requirement in job listings.
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Re: Where to start becoming an English Teacher

Postby violet » Wed May 16, 2018 12:14 pm

No 'issue' Migs. A different stance/perspective/whatever does not equal issue.
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Re: Where to start becoming an English Teacher

Postby Lucky Lucan » Wed May 16, 2018 12:15 pm

Michael_Ekans wrote:On behalf of Home of English International, we don't accept riff raff, I don't know where Lucan gets his information, and I have no clue why he wishes to slander us as I've only been friendly to him. For the record, we only accept people with experience and relevant credentials. Not only that but all applicants must teach a demo class to demonstrate competent teaching abilities. I hope that clears things up.


It was just a joke referring to some of the members here who worked at Home of English years ago.
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Re: Where to start becoming an English Teacher

Postby epidemiks » Wed May 16, 2018 12:34 pm

So I did a 15 minute audit, and here are the schools found that publish a CRC requirement as of May 2018:

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Northbridge

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Footprints

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HOPE (for parent volunteers)

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HOPE (for teachers)

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CISPP

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Learning Jungle

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No check required, or requirement not published online:

BISPP

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iCan - nothing published

Home of English - nothing published
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Re: Where to start becoming an English Teacher

Postby violet » Wed May 16, 2018 12:35 pm

^ top work
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Re: Where to start becoming an English Teacher

Postby Hot_Pink_Urinal_Mint » Wed May 16, 2018 12:49 pm

epidemiks wrote:iCan - nothing published




David Hunt, Vice Principal of iCAN British International School said:

The safety of our young people, both online and in the real world is a priority for us and we were delighted to twice host the CEOP ‘International Child Protection Network Safeguarding Children Training’. This has enabled our staff and other key professionals here in Cambodia working with children, to equip young people with the skills necessary to ensure they are safe.

At iCAN we require all our teachers to have a current criminal records clearance, or equivalent for non-UK nationals. The introduction of the new International Child Protection Certificate (ICPC) here in Cambodia, and around the world, will enable prospective British teachers who are not holding current clearances to request an ICPC to provide for prospective employers. This is a great step towards making all organisations working with children, much safer places.


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Re: Where to start becoming an English Teacher

Postby gavinmac » Wed May 16, 2018 12:53 pm

So is it fair to say that Home of English, the school that hired convicted fugitive child pornography aficionado Eric Erdmann, is one of the few schools that does not perform or require criminal background checks of all teachers it hires?
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Re: Where to start becoming an English Teacher

Postby violet » Wed May 16, 2018 1:00 pm

gavinmac wrote:So is it fair to say that Home of English, the school that hired convicted fugitive child pornography aficionado Eric Erdmann, is one of the few schools that does not perform or require criminal background checks of all teachers it hires?


Haha. No, it isn't fair to say it is one of the few schools. The list of schools foreigners in PP are working at is very long, and not anything near what epidemiks posted.
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Re: Where to start becoming an English Teacher

Postby epidemiks » Wed May 16, 2018 1:01 pm

Hot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote:
epidemiks wrote:iCan - nothing published




David Hunt, Vice Principal of iCAN British International School said:

The safety of our young people, both online and in the real world is a priority for us and we were delighted to twice host the CEOP ‘International Child Protection Network Safeguarding Children Training’. This has enabled our staff and other key professionals here in Cambodia working with children, to equip young people with the skills necessary to ensure they are safe.

At iCAN we require all our teachers to have a current criminal records clearance, or equivalent for non-UK nationals. The introduction of the new International Child Protection Certificate (ICPC) here in Cambodia, and around the world, will enable prospective British teachers who are not holding current clearances to request an ICPC to provide for prospective employers. This is a great step towards making all organisations working with children, much safer places.


https://www.gov.uk/government/news/inte ... itation--2


Good find. They don't state anything on their website or any of the job ads I found.
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Re: Where to start becoming an English Teacher

Postby violet » Wed May 16, 2018 1:04 pm

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Re: Where to start becoming an English Teacher

Postby pedros » Wed May 16, 2018 1:12 pm

epidemiks wrote:So I did a 15 minute audit, and here are the schools found that publish a CRC requirement as of May 2018:





HOPE (for parent volunteers)

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HOPE (for teachers)

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http://www.khmer440.com/k/2015/10/convi ... hnom-penh/
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Re: Where to start becoming an English Teacher

Postby ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ » Wed May 16, 2018 1:15 pm

pedros wrote:
epidemiks wrote:So I did a 15 minute audit, and here are the schools found that publish a CRC requirement as of May 2018:





HOPE (for parent volunteers)

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HOPE (for teachers)

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Locking the stable door after the horse has bolted there...

http://www.khmer440.com/k/2015/10/convi ... hnom-penh/

TBF at least it is now being locked.
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