Advice on crossing Street 274 on foot?
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Do the APSARA dance the next time you cross the street. I can assure the traffic will come to a complete stand still.
Not only forwards...but over...and out.Playboy wrote:Forget walking accross the road - Zorbing is the way forwards !
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That was pretty stupid.ricecakes wrote:Not only forwards...but over...and out.Playboy wrote:Forget walking accross the road - Zorbing is the way forwards !
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Maybe in Vietnam, Thailand, etc.No one will stop for you but once you start walk out they will slow down/drive around you. They know you have to go or you never get past. Just need to have nerves of steel, bikes will aim behind you, they see you. If you get nervous and step back again you might get hit.
IMHO this is actually specific to Cambodia. Nowhere else have I had motos try to squeeze into the diminishing space between me and opposite side of the road as happens consistently in Cambodia. To be fair, I've noticed in the last couple of years, more and more riders are starting to think a little, and aim behind, but the obvious hicks will 100% still play this game, however sternly you keep moving, wave them back etc.other places around SEA were they seem to aim for the barangs and never help by driving behind you even if you just have 2 meters to go.
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I spent most of my time on the road, the way I see how the locals crossing the road they just cross without any fear into the oncoming traffic and the 2 wheels or 4 wheels vehicles either stop or swerve around them. lol
My experience is the opposite. Ho chi minh was a nightmare. Never seen as aggressive driving as there. Felt like some sort of death-race in the taxi and when i wanted to cross roads ppl maxed the gas and drove as close infront of me as they could. When i came back to Phnom penh i felt so relaxed walking in traffic after what i just experienced.electron wrote:Maybe in Vietnam, Thailand, etc.No one will stop for you but once you start walk out they will slow down/drive around you. They know you have to go or you never get past. Just need to have nerves of steel, bikes will aim behind you, they see you. If you get nervous and step back again you might get hit.
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Yeah Hanoi is pretty fucked up. There is a very different pace and flow to the traffic here than Phnom Penh. Hard to put my finger on it.
Best way i cant think to describe it is in Phnom Penh for the most part it is a bit slower and people are "kind of" looking ahead to see what is happening whereas in Hanoi it is a faster pace and people do not seem to give a fuck about anyone around them. They think nothing of drifting straight across your path from the LHS lane to turn right for example and at intersections it is basically a free for all to see who can get through first. I much prefer scooting in PP.
Best way i cant think to describe it is in Phnom Penh for the most part it is a bit slower and people are "kind of" looking ahead to see what is happening whereas in Hanoi it is a faster pace and people do not seem to give a fuck about anyone around them. They think nothing of drifting straight across your path from the LHS lane to turn right for example and at intersections it is basically a free for all to see who can get through first. I much prefer scooting in PP.
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Yes, but people get clobbered plenty, too.the chicken wrote:I spent most of my time on the road, the way I see how the locals crossing the road they just cross without any fear into the oncoming traffic and the 2 wheels or 4 wheels vehicles either stop or swerve around them. lol
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I think the only reason it is more "relaxed" in PP is because all the streets are clogged by huge SUV's and nothing moves. But take Sisowath: I'd rather take any road in Vietnam than that road; full with drunks, freshie boys playing chicken, and assorted idiots.
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Exactly, there are a lot of pedestrians getting hit. Unsurprisingly drivers speeding and drunk driving being the major causes. In 2013 the annual mortality rate for pedestrians was 5.5766 per 100,000, an increase of 33.4% since 1990, an average of 1.5% a year. Pedestrian Road Injuries in Cambodia http://global-disease-burden.healthgrov ... n-CambodiaHanno wrote:Yes, but people get clobbered plenty, too.the chicken wrote:I spent most of my time on the road, the way I see how the locals crossing the road they just cross without any fear into the oncoming traffic and the 2 wheels or 4 wheels vehicles either stop or swerve around them. lol
Some data from the 2010 report
In 2010,25% of pedestrian were killed on Saturday.42% of pedestrians were killed between 5pm and 9pm, compared
to 40% in 2009.A peak was observed between 7pm to 8pm in 2010.
In 2010,pedestrian presented 8% of total casualties but 12% of total fatalities. Among total pedestrian casualties, 15% were fatalities and 36% were severely injured. The number of pedestrian fatalities has increased since 2006.
Compared to 2009, pedestrian fatalities increased by 1% in 2010. https://wpqr4.adb.org/lotusquickr/cop-m ... mbodia.pdf
From the Annual Road Safety Report 2015 It is estimated that unless additional road safety actions are taken, the number of fatalities in Cambodia will increase up to 3 200 by 2020. The target is therefore to reduce the
number of fatalities to less than 1 600. If the targets is achieved progressively, 7 350 lives will be saved.
http://ticambodia.org/library/wp-conten ... 58road.pdf
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