Ha! Aren't you moving to Vietnam? Vietnamese "sangkat" require permission before you want to move out of and move into a place. Dealing with Cambodian "officials" is way easier than the Vietnamese, imho.ricecakes wrote:I have no idea why the Sangkat needs to get involved with a property owners dealings with their tenant anyway. It's none of their god danged business.
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Not where I am living they won'tchkwoot wrote: Vietnamese "sangkat" require permission before you want to move out of and move into a place.
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Cool! That makes things a whole lot easier!ricecakes wrote:Not where I am living they won'tchkwoot wrote: Vietnamese "sangkat" require permission before you want to move out of and move into a place.
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Has anyone done this since alanclarke72 or ricecakes did theirs? Are the steps still the same as PSD_Kiwi posted on page 5 http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/view ... 48#p623642and does anyone have samples of what the different bits of paper are supposed to look like?alanclarke72 wrote:This thread has been invaluable. I've just gone through this process and it made the process very very simple indeed.
A quick summary.
Key to this is getting your Residency Certificate from the local Sangkat. I had the girl who manages my apartment do this for me. It cost $25 and I got it back in a day. I presume the $25 was split between the sangkat guys and the girl, but that's fine.
I dropped in to the MoJ yesterday to get an application form and was guided through it by Ms Kimluch, who was very helpful. I had a friend do the form last night (yes, it needs to be written in Khmer) and I went to submit it with:
1) a photo 4x6
2) a copy of first entry visa
3) a copy of last entry visa
4) a copy of the photo page of passport
And that was that. Ms Kimluch sorted it out this morning. I paid 500k for the fast track option and $15 for a translation and I have a receipt that I can claim back, together with a date to go and collect it.
Simple as that.
What's the process for a Khmer national? From the pic in post 2 http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/view ... ck#p188798 it looks like she'd have to apply at the Sangkat police station?
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The process has not changed since gongsta's 31/03/2011 post on page 1 or PSD-Kiwi's on 21/01/2015.
Collect the forms from the Ministry of Justice. Adding to gongsta's instructions enter here
Immediately turn right, walk down the gap between the building and the fence
Turn left at the end of the building into a bit of a courtyard
You want the ground floor door in the building at the back left of the courtyard, this one
Apparently the women in the office immediately inside will fill in forms for Khmers for a fee. Ms.Kimluch is is the office at the back left of this one, just inside the door on the left side.
The sample residence letter looks like this
The 3 lines at the bottom middle of the page are instructions to the Sangkat to provide something looking like this template. My missus took the sample and our lease to the Sangkat and asked them to create something similar. The dragon lady guarding the inner sanctum (where the people who actually do the work hide) said they can't do anything with English in it and they were too busy to do it anyway. Missus went to a nearby print shop and got them to create something from the template with the details and dates we wanted on it. Got it stamped by the village/commune guy (bottom right corner). Took it back to the Sangkat when dragon lady wasn't there and got it stamped by the Sangkat guy (bottom left corner). It cost about $40 in total for the residence certificate.
The criminal check application is 2 pages long, must be completed in Khmer and looks like this
Page 1 contains your personal details, address, parents' details, spouse details. The checklist at the bottom asks for "CV" (page 2 of the application), ID (card or passport), birth certificate, residence certificate. It's the same form for Khmers and barangs. Khmers need to provide all the checklist, barangs apparently don't need the birth certificate. The "CV" on page 2 contains the same information as page 1 plus a travel history section.
Collect the forms from the Ministry of Justice. Adding to gongsta's instructions enter here
Immediately turn right, walk down the gap between the building and the fence
Turn left at the end of the building into a bit of a courtyard
You want the ground floor door in the building at the back left of the courtyard, this one
Apparently the women in the office immediately inside will fill in forms for Khmers for a fee. Ms.Kimluch is is the office at the back left of this one, just inside the door on the left side.
The sample residence letter looks like this
The 3 lines at the bottom middle of the page are instructions to the Sangkat to provide something looking like this template. My missus took the sample and our lease to the Sangkat and asked them to create something similar. The dragon lady guarding the inner sanctum (where the people who actually do the work hide) said they can't do anything with English in it and they were too busy to do it anyway. Missus went to a nearby print shop and got them to create something from the template with the details and dates we wanted on it. Got it stamped by the village/commune guy (bottom right corner). Took it back to the Sangkat when dragon lady wasn't there and got it stamped by the Sangkat guy (bottom left corner). It cost about $40 in total for the residence certificate.
The criminal check application is 2 pages long, must be completed in Khmer and looks like this
Page 1 contains your personal details, address, parents' details, spouse details. The checklist at the bottom asks for "CV" (page 2 of the application), ID (card or passport), birth certificate, residence certificate. It's the same form for Khmers and barangs. Khmers need to provide all the checklist, barangs apparently don't need the birth certificate. The "CV" on page 2 contains the same information as page 1 plus a travel history section.
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Well done. Although i think you are missing the formal rental lease he needs before he can get the Residency Letter.walkjivefly wrote:The process has not changed since gongsta's 31/03/2011 post on page 1 or PSD-Kiwi's on 21/01/2015.
Collect the forms from the Ministry of Justice. Adding to gongsta's instructions enter here
Immediately turn right, walk down the gap between the building and the fence
Turn left at the end of the building into a bit of a courtyard
You want the ground floor door in the building at the back left of the courtyard, this one
Apparently the women in the office immediately inside will fill in forms for Khmers for a fee. Ms.Kimluch is is the office at the back left of this one, just inside the door on the left side.
The sample residence letter looks like this
The 3 lines at the bottom middle of the page are instructions to the Sangkat to provide something looking like this template. My missus took the sample and our lease to the Sangkat and asked them to create something similar. The dragon lady guarding the inner sanctum (where the people who actually do the work hide) said they can't do anything with English in it and they were too busy to do it anyway. Missus went to a nearby print shop and got them to create something from the template with the details and dates we wanted on it. Got it stamped by the village/commune guy (bottom right corner). Took it back to the Sangkat when dragon lady wasn't there and got it stamped by the Sangkat guy (bottom left corner). It cost about $40 in total for the residence certificate.
The criminal check application is 2 pages long, must be completed in Khmer and looks like this
Page 1 contains your personal details, address, parents' details, spouse details. The checklist at the bottom asks for "CV" (page 2 of the application), ID (card or passport), birth certificate, residence certificate. It's the same form for Khmers and barangs. Khmers need to provide all the checklist, barangs apparently don't need the birth certificate. The "CV" on page 2 contains the same information as page 1 plus a travel history section.
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We have our SHV sangkat stamp all of our leases to foreigners but the cost is nowhere near 100$.ricecakes wrote:Ok so I jumped into this yesterday and first hurdle at the Sangkat as previously mentioned here ( which I missed in my haste) is that your lease must have been registered by your landlord at the Sangkat which many don't do as it is over $100.
If the Sangkat lowered the lease registration price to $20 perhaps many more landlords would comply hence boosting their revenues but instead, landlords are shirking the cost. I have no idea why the Sangkat needs to get involved with a property owners dealings with their tenant anyway. It's none of their god danged business.
I can't say how much precisely since a real estate agency runs it for us.
I would however estimate the cost to be around 20/40$ since when we find the new tenants by ourselves the real estate agency charges us 70$ to make the new contract and pay the sangkat.
Khmer owners often can't be bothered indeed but in case the tenant dies on the premises or other problems arise the police is then at liberty to juice them real good.
Good afternoon,
Just a couple follow-up questions;
I understand the MOJ application form is to be completed in Khmer, does this include the names as well? Or like the Sangkat form, they stay in english?
The second page of the MOJ form, the first section, has 4 lines of space to be written on. My colleague who is helping with the form cannot understand properly what the two written lines above are and what are the 4 lines of space to be used for, can anyone assist there?
Thanks a lot.
Just a couple follow-up questions;
I understand the MOJ application form is to be completed in Khmer, does this include the names as well? Or like the Sangkat form, they stay in english?
The second page of the MOJ form, the first section, has 4 lines of space to be written on. My colleague who is helping with the form cannot understand properly what the two written lines above are and what are the 4 lines of space to be used for, can anyone assist there?
Thanks a lot.
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A quick question,
I've been offered a new contract with a government employer in NZ who wants a criminal check from Cambodia as I lived there more than six months.
I need to find a fixer or - more likely - fly out next week to make it happen as it is a time critical process.
It was two years since I left. I don't have a lease or a copy of the agreement. I might not be able to track down my old landlord.
What should I do?
I've been offered a new contract with a government employer in NZ who wants a criminal check from Cambodia as I lived there more than six months.
I need to find a fixer or - more likely - fly out next week to make it happen as it is a time critical process.
It was two years since I left. I don't have a lease or a copy of the agreement. I might not be able to track down my old landlord.
What should I do?
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I have read in the past that you can authorise someone to do it on your behalf. I don't know if this is still true. I also can't remember the process to authorise someone. You can totally get someone reliable to do this for a reasonable price...and save 2hat must be close to $1000 on flights. Plus the checks don't happen instantly, so you would need to pay for one or two weeks of accommodation. I am not an expert. I may be wrong... But if you get to the next step and you don't know who to trust ...
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You probably won't be able to get one as per this thread. I had the issue where I needed one for a job, landlord had registered the lease initially, but didn't extend it beyond the first six months. Sangkat would not supply the letter required for the Police Report no matter how hard the wife tried. I submitted a statutory declaration explaining the situation and that was accepted by my government employer in Australia.KOTARE wrote:A quick question,
I've been offered a new contract with a government employer in NZ who wants a criminal check from Cambodia as I lived there more than six months.
I need to find a fixer or - more likely - fly out next week to make it happen as it is a time critical process.
It was two years since I left. I don't have a lease or a copy of the agreement. I might not be able to track down my old landlord.
What should I do?
There is no way you can get a quickie from Kim Luch ( although she does rate as a MILF )
There is an express 2 week application for extra $$
Last time we did one she fucked it up and it took months.
Cansata is correct. If you push hard enough on the things that are impossible, usually the a stat dec will suffice. Australian Govt will certainly allow this.
There is an express 2 week application for extra $$
Last time we did one she fucked it up and it took months.
Cansata is correct. If you push hard enough on the things that are impossible, usually the a stat dec will suffice. Australian Govt will certainly allow this.
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