Teaching Experts In Cambodia - Help me out please!
Teaching Experts In Cambodia - Help me out please!
Hey all,
I just recently turned 18 and have been wanting to teach in Cambodia for awhile now. Can anyone help me out on how to get started? I read some of the articles here but I need a little more info. Websites, personal advice, anything would be greatly appreciated.
P.S. As of right now I only have a HS Diploma and in the process of of taking the TEFL courses needed for a cert.
Thanks. 8)
I just recently turned 18 and have been wanting to teach in Cambodia for awhile now. Can anyone help me out on how to get started? I read some of the articles here but I need a little more info. Websites, personal advice, anything would be greatly appreciated.
P.S. As of right now I only have a HS Diploma and in the process of of taking the TEFL courses needed for a cert.
Thanks. 8)
Why not? (I'm a guy, what made you think I was a girl?)hanky wrote:No hard feelings, but I`m not sure Cambodia is the greatest place for a (just) 18 year old girl to live, or find teaching work.
I understand that its quite different from the US but I've been wanting to go there for the longest. Someday, I plan on opening a school there and I figure this would be one of the best ways to start experiencing.
If Cambodia isn't the place, where would you suggest then?
Thanks.
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Sorry, I saw a post earlier on TT from a 17/8 year old girl asking a similiar question and guessed wrongly you were the same person. Even if you are a boy, I`d say the same thing.
Anyway, I`ll leave this for one of the Teaching experts on this forum to answer, but you would be well advised to visit the country first and see how you get on first, its a lot different than the States. Good luck.
Anyway, I`ll leave this for one of the Teaching experts on this forum to answer, but you would be well advised to visit the country first and see how you get on first, its a lot different than the States. Good luck.
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There are other things to think about quite apart from teaching. Quite simply, Cambodia is a place that many people go to either get fucked up or because they already are fucked up. Phnom Penh particularly is a rough city and it's very easy to get into big trouble if you don't have your wits about you or strong survival instincts.
You may find that the people you end up hanging around with and becoming your peer group are jaded, cynical, angry, drunken, drug crazed, twisted and generally fucked up whoremongering old dogs.....and that's just the Christian NGO's. The male sexpats are far worse.
Moving on to teaching, it could be tricky to find a school willing to have you on the staff. Your age will probably count against you. Having said that I do remember a character nicknamed 'Pitt the Even Younger' who was managing a school and marrying a General's daughter before his balls had dropped.
Looking on the bright side however, loads of bargirls will certainly want you to sleep with you for free as an antidote to their usual clientele of fat and bitter old men.
A possible answer might be to try and get some vounteering gig where you get food/accommodation and are looked after and spoon fed a bit. There are various projects of this nature all over Cambodia.
You may find that the people you end up hanging around with and becoming your peer group are jaded, cynical, angry, drunken, drug crazed, twisted and generally fucked up whoremongering old dogs.....and that's just the Christian NGO's. The male sexpats are far worse.
Moving on to teaching, it could be tricky to find a school willing to have you on the staff. Your age will probably count against you. Having said that I do remember a character nicknamed 'Pitt the Even Younger' who was managing a school and marrying a General's daughter before his balls had dropped.
Looking on the bright side however, loads of bargirls will certainly want you to sleep with you for free as an antidote to their usual clientele of fat and bitter old men.
A possible answer might be to try and get some vounteering gig where you get food/accommodation and are looked after and spoon fed a bit. There are various projects of this nature all over Cambodia.
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Hmmm that sounds like a good idea..keeping_it_riel wrote:There are other things to think about quite apart from teaching. Quite simply, Cambodia is a place that many people go to either get fucked up or because they already are fucked up. Phnom Penh particularly is a rough city and it's very easy to get into big trouble if you don't have your wits about you or strong survival instincts.
You may find that the people you end up hanging around with and becoming your peer group are jaded, cynical, angry, drunken, drug crazed, twisted and generally fucked up whoremongering old dogs.....and that's just the Christian NGO's. The male sexpats are far worse.
Moving on to teaching, it could be tricky to find a school willing to have you on the staff. Your age will probably count against you. Having said that I do remember a character nicknamed 'Pitt the Even Younger' who was managing a school and marrying a General's daughter before his balls had dropped.
Looking on the bright side however, loads of bargirls will certainly want you to sleep with you for free as an antidote to their usual clientele of fat and bitter old men.
A possible answer might be to try and get some vounteering gig where you get food/accommodation and are looked after and spoon fed a bit. There are various projects of this nature all over Cambodia.
Where are these organizations?
Do you think getting tons of TEFL experience would matter in the hiring decision or would my age still be a factor..
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I say go for it, what have you got to loose, when you get here just lie about your age, tell them you are 21, if you were the freaky kid at school that started shaving when he was 10 this will also be a bonus.I read some of the articles here but I need a little more info. Websites, personal advice, anything would be greatly appreciated.
In Asia apperance counts for more than substance, so as long as you know how to do up your own shoe lases and you don't look 12 years old I think you should give it a try, I mean if it all goes wrong you can just go home, as I'm guessing this move won't involve you having to sell your house, divorse your wife or hand your kids over to social services, so the door will be wide open for you if you choose to go back, and I think you said you were American, in which case you have already left it too long, if I was raised there I would've been off as soon as I learned how to swim.
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Okay, I'm curious. You just turned 18, but you've wanted to teach in Cambodia for a while. Why? For how long? I'm curious why an 18 year old picks Cambodia. Did you live in an area with Khmer/Americans?
If you've never traveled abroad before, I'd probably recommend a visit to SE Asia before deciding to pack up and teach here. There are lots of young British and Australian backpackers your age who travel around the area.
Did you just finish high school in June or are you a year out? Do you live at home with your parents? Are you working anywhere now? Are you trying to torment your mother by moving as far way as possible and to a country with a bad reputation? Seriously, have you mentioned it to your mom? I'd love to know her response. I'm over 30 and my mom still gets freaked out when I travel to developing countries. In fact, I still remember, three years ago, having the following conversation with my mom before my first trip to the region:
Me: "Mom, I've decided to take a vacation next month."
Mom: "Where are you going?"
Me: "Cambodia."
Mom: [After long pause] "Isn't that where they go to have sex with little boys?"
Anyway, I fully support this. Not that I think it's a great idea. I just like the idea of dropping a totally green Western teenager into Phnom Penh and seeing if he can fend for himself. Especially if you've never been on your own before. It'll be interesting. Seeing how you respond to a lawless society with cheap beer, cheap drugs, cheap women, etc. will be interesting. I never could have handled it.
Lastly, for websites, this is your best source of info, but also see the thread under "Questions and Answers" titled "Another Asian website FAQ" where links to some other sites are provided. Good luck. Keep us posted on what you decide and how you get on.
If you've never traveled abroad before, I'd probably recommend a visit to SE Asia before deciding to pack up and teach here. There are lots of young British and Australian backpackers your age who travel around the area.
Did you just finish high school in June or are you a year out? Do you live at home with your parents? Are you working anywhere now? Are you trying to torment your mother by moving as far way as possible and to a country with a bad reputation? Seriously, have you mentioned it to your mom? I'd love to know her response. I'm over 30 and my mom still gets freaked out when I travel to developing countries. In fact, I still remember, three years ago, having the following conversation with my mom before my first trip to the region:
Me: "Mom, I've decided to take a vacation next month."
Mom: "Where are you going?"
Me: "Cambodia."
Mom: [After long pause] "Isn't that where they go to have sex with little boys?"
Anyway, I fully support this. Not that I think it's a great idea. I just like the idea of dropping a totally green Western teenager into Phnom Penh and seeing if he can fend for himself. Especially if you've never been on your own before. It'll be interesting. Seeing how you respond to a lawless society with cheap beer, cheap drugs, cheap women, etc. will be interesting. I never could have handled it.
Lastly, for websites, this is your best source of info, but also see the thread under "Questions and Answers" titled "Another Asian website FAQ" where links to some other sites are provided. Good luck. Keep us posted on what you decide and how you get on.
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Yes. I use to live in Long Beach and when I was younger I would go over friends house and learn everything I could about Khmer culture. It fascinated me very much. when I was 17 I learned about teaching but at the time I was too busy to pursue. Now that i'm done with everything, I figure this would be the perfect time to seize the opportinity.Okay, I'm curious. You just turned 18, but you've wanted to teach in Cambodia for a while. Why? For how long? I'm curious why an 18 year old picks Cambodia. Did you live in an area with Khmer/Americans?
I'm out of HS now. I got out June. I'm currently working at a bookstore. My mother already knows about this and wasnt too thrilled at first but she has decided to be open minded about the whole thing and let me go for it.Did you just finish high school in June or are you a year out? Do you live at home with your parents? Are you working anywhere now? Are you trying to torment your mother by moving as far way as possible and to a country with a bad reputation? Seriously, have you mentioned it to your mom? I'd love to know her response. I'm over 30 and my mom still gets freaked out when I travel to developing countries. In fact, I still remember, three years ago, having the following conversation with my mom before my first trip to the region:
I really appreciate these responses so far. Are any of you guys certified or anything like that? Can you tell me how you got on down there? Thats my biggest concern right now. I wanna be sure I can secure a job before I do anything else.
That was actually part of the appeal for me when I came to Asia at 20 years old. I had a brutal introduction, and wouldn't enjoy watching anyone come here and go that way. Now that I'm in my 50s, and one of the people you describe, I know why you look at them with such contempt.keeping_it_riel wrote:You may find that the people you end up hanging around with and becoming your peer group are jaded, cynical, angry, drunken, drug crazed, twisted and generally fucked up whoremongering old dogs.
In one of my family's very rare e-mails, I was told recently that I'd been "brainwashed." Sometimes, I wish they'd just stick to the weather, who's has what operation, and what they've been watching on the telly.Gavinmac wrote:I'm over 30 and my mom still gets freaked out when I travel to developing countries. In fact, I still remember, three years ago, having the following conversation with my mom before my first trip to the region.
Get certified by taking a course. Come here, and go to SITC. Trust me, someone will give you work. Despite the free shagging, expatriate life requires a certain psychological makeup. You probably will have trouble making friends who are even close to your own age. And being treated like everyone's kid brother can be quite annoying. And trying to prove yourself can be quite damaging physically and mentally. And the sense of isolation, I'm sure, will be one of the first things to crush you, particularly if you start thinking of bargirls as your "friends" or latch onto one in an intense solypsistic relationship in order to ward off the devatstating existential crises.Kemphai wrote:Are any of you guys certified or anything like that? Can you tell me how you got on down there? Thats my biggest concern right now. I wanna be sure I can secure a job before I do anything else.
Just make sure you come here with money. Do not, under any circumstances, come with a couple grand in the bank and plan to live off what you earn. Live conservatively. Personally, I'd work the bookshop thing a bit longer, save some money, do a lot more research (your vague questions suggest you don't know that much about the region), and then come over as a backpacker. See a bit of Thailand, maybe Loas and Vietnam, and then spend some time in Siem Reap, Battambang, Kampot, Kompong Som, and Phnom Penh. Talk to some expatriates, as well as other travellers, and keep your eyes open for opportunities teaching and volunteering. Have a return ticket, which you can cancel, and look at it as a learning experience. Not the start of your career.
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After reading your reply to this kid, I definitely disagree with your last paragraph. Why shouldn't he come here with $2,000 and plan to live off what he earns? I've done that (in Thailand) starting with only 7,000 baht.
And I think that there is nothing worse than not doing what you want when you know in your heart what you need to do. How better to learn about Cambodia than to just come here?!
In fact, I am coming to Cambodia with $2,000 and am planning to live off of what I earn (although I have a few years of teaching experience and master's degree, etc.).
And I think that there is nothing worse than not doing what you want when you know in your heart what you need to do. How better to learn about Cambodia than to just come here?!
In fact, I am coming to Cambodia with $2,000 and am planning to live off of what I earn (although I have a few years of teaching experience and master's degree, etc.).
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Kemphai, it is good you want to go out and see the world at your age. I put my money on following Mac's suggestions for a rewarding experience. Better to be thoroughly prepared than sorry once you're there...
You can learn something new every day. "solypsistic experience" never heard that one before...Dictionary.com's definition of solipsism is: 1) The theory that the self is the only thing that can be known and verified. 2) The theory or view that the self is the only reality. That's it right? Mac, you and your twelve letter words...
You can learn something new every day. "solypsistic experience" never heard that one before...Dictionary.com's definition of solipsism is: 1) The theory that the self is the only thing that can be known and verified. 2) The theory or view that the self is the only reality. That's it right? Mac, you and your twelve letter words...
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