Whew, dodged that bullet by a few years and a few dollars.Mèo Đen wrote:According to new marriage requirements issued on by the Government of Cambodia on March 7, 2011, male barangs wishing to marry Cambodian women must:
Be under 50 years of age, and
Have a monthly income of at least US $2,500
Marrying a Cambodian help
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ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.
Unless you have a specific reason to have a Cambodian wedding cert, it is a waste of time and money to marry here. Why make greedy racist corrupt officials rich for no reason? Go to Hong Kong and get married. Quarter the price and 10 times easier.
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I've heard that many women dream of getting married in the presence of a lot of friends and family.RBD wrote:Unless you have a specific reason to have a Cambodian wedding cert, it is a waste of time and money to marry here. Why make greedy racist corrupt officials rich for no reason? Go to Hong Kong and get married. Quarter the price and 10 times easier.
I wouldn't know, it's just what I heard.
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How does that work though? From what I've read on here I don't think it's too easy for a Cambodian national to get married abroad.RBD wrote:Unless you have a specific reason to have a Cambodian wedding cert, it is a waste of time and money to marry here. Why make greedy racist corrupt officials rich for no reason? Go to Hong Kong and get married. Quarter the price and 10 times easier.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
French Embassies information given to that guy is indeed completely wrong.
I'm not a negative person, I encourage people all the time...it's usually to f**k off! But, whatever.
First of all, you will need to go to the MoFAIC in Phnom Penh and meet and speak to Mr Ung Vantha in the Legal & Consular Department, this man will give you the application forms and lists of required documents, he will not accept any money. Do not deal with anyone else, as they will all ask for ridiculous sums of money. Mr. Ung Vantha's (MoFA) phone number, 016608586.
You will need to present the following to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs;
1. "Application for foreigner to marry Khmer citizen" (provided by MoFAIC)
2. Certificate of non-impediment/single status/divorce certificate (if applicable)/ex-spouses death certificate (if applicable)
3. Criminal record check from your country of citizenship
4. Passport with valid E type (Ordinary MEEV) visa, minimum 6 months validity
5. Letter of employment/proof of salary minimum $2500USD p/m (Male only). Work permit/work book/business license if employed in Cambodia.
6. Letter from your Embassy - permission/consent to marry
7. Pre-nuptial Medical certificate from Calmette Hospital (no older than 3 months)
8. 2x passport photos
NOTE: Foreign males must be under 50 years old to legally marry a Cambodian citizen in Cambodia.
All above documents must be notarised/certified from your nearest Embassy except 1,6 and 7.
Khmer partner will need to present;
1. "Certificate of celibacy, widowhood, divorce" (single status) from Sangkat
2. National ID card
3. Birth Certificate
4. Family Book and/or Carnet de Residence
5. Pre-nuptial Medical certificate from Calmette Hospital (no older than 3 months)
6. 2x passport photos
Note: The blood tests are for HIV, Hepatitis, and a few other diseases, chest x-ray is for TB. Cost from Calmette for the blood tests, x-ray and medical certificate is $120 per couple ($60 each). You will need to take your passport/national ID card, as well as 1x passport photo per person.
Once the MoFA processes the documents which takes about 1-2 weeks, you will be issued a letter which you must submit with all of your documents to the Ministry of Interior. You will both be interviewed by someone in the MoI, and if they are satisfied it will take approximately another 2+ months for them to issue an authorisation to marry letter, which you will then need to submit to your partners Sangkat, who will then issue you with your marriage certificate.
MoFAIC:
I'm not great at explaining directions, but I hope this helps...
When you go to the MoFA, enter the compound via the side entrance, do not go to the large main entrance on the riverside. There is a guard hut where you and your partner will have to show ID, and they will give you a visitors pass. Walk straight ahead to the large building straight ahead and to the right, and enter via the first side entrance.
As you enter, immediately on your left you should see a sign for e-visa on your right hand side, continue walking straight down the corridor. The 3rd or 4th door on the right hand side is Vanthas office. As you look at his office door, there should be a small alcove with a Buddhist statue to the left of his door, this is how you will know which office is his. Remember that this is a Cambodian Ministry, and they keep strange working hours...I think they take lunch from about 1100 - 1400.
MOI:
Do not go to the Main MoI compound. You need to go to an office called “National Committee to Lead the Suppression of Human Trafficking, Smuggling, Labour Exploitation and Sexual Exploitation in Woman and Children” (S.T.S.L.S), which is at the General dept of Identification building at this location…
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Gen ... ation+(GDI )/@11.5344525,104.9511904,17z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x4d2d71f75dee8eb6!8m2!3d11.5343962!4d104.9550942
Take all of your completed documentation and letter from the MoFAIC with you and try to arrive early (by 0900hrs at the latest). There all of your documentation will be checked, and if anything is not in order they will inform you of what you need to fix.
Once everything is in order, you will pay the official $200 fee, which you will receive a receipt for, and then be interviewed by several people, mostly regarding things like how you met your partner, how long you’ve been together, have you travelled together on holiday, how long have you lived/been travelling to Cambodia, what is your job, family members names and contact details, what are your plans, do you plan to take her overseas and exploit her, etc…Its not as daunting as you may think. Your partner will be near you the entire time, so if there any language barriers, ask her to translate for you.
Once everything is in order, it can take anywhere up to 4 months before you receive the letter of permission to marry from the MoI, which you then take to your partner's Sangkat in order to be issued your official marriage certificate. There is no requirement for a wedding ceremony in order to be issued a marriage certificate.
For foreigners marrying a Cambodian citizen, the only official fees payable are;
- $200 fee paid to the 'National Committe to Lead the Suppression of Human Trafficking, Smuggling, Labour Exploitation and Sexual Exploitation in Woman and Children (S.T.S.L.S)' , which is a department of the MoI. The fee covers admin, interviews and background check costs. An official receipt is issued.
- 20,000 Riel fee paid to the Sangkat which issues the official Marriage Certificate. An official receipt is issued.
(Note: The interviewers at the MoI expect a small "donation" each, about $5 each covers it...probably a good idea to just pay this to ensure your application is approved)
Many people no doubt end up dealing with the wrong people and/or fixers and end up getting fleeced purely because the information on the whole process is not readily available and can be confusing.
You will need to present the following to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs;
1. "Application for foreigner to marry Khmer citizen" (provided by MoFAIC)
2. Certificate of non-impediment/single status/divorce certificate (if applicable)/ex-spouses death certificate (if applicable)
3. Criminal record check from your country of citizenship
4. Passport with valid E type (Ordinary MEEV) visa, minimum 6 months validity
5. Letter of employment/proof of salary minimum $2500USD p/m (Male only). Work permit/work book/business license if employed in Cambodia.
6. Letter from your Embassy - permission/consent to marry
7. Pre-nuptial Medical certificate from Calmette Hospital (no older than 3 months)
8. 2x passport photos
NOTE: Foreign males must be under 50 years old to legally marry a Cambodian citizen in Cambodia.
All above documents must be notarised/certified from your nearest Embassy except 1,6 and 7.
Khmer partner will need to present;
1. "Certificate of celibacy, widowhood, divorce" (single status) from Sangkat
2. National ID card
3. Birth Certificate
4. Family Book and/or Carnet de Residence
5. Pre-nuptial Medical certificate from Calmette Hospital (no older than 3 months)
6. 2x passport photos
Note: The blood tests are for HIV, Hepatitis, and a few other diseases, chest x-ray is for TB. Cost from Calmette for the blood tests, x-ray and medical certificate is $120 per couple ($60 each). You will need to take your passport/national ID card, as well as 1x passport photo per person.
Once the MoFA processes the documents which takes about 1-2 weeks, you will be issued a letter which you must submit with all of your documents to the Ministry of Interior. You will both be interviewed by someone in the MoI, and if they are satisfied it will take approximately another 2+ months for them to issue an authorisation to marry letter, which you will then need to submit to your partners Sangkat, who will then issue you with your marriage certificate.
MoFAIC:
I'm not great at explaining directions, but I hope this helps...
When you go to the MoFA, enter the compound via the side entrance, do not go to the large main entrance on the riverside. There is a guard hut where you and your partner will have to show ID, and they will give you a visitors pass. Walk straight ahead to the large building straight ahead and to the right, and enter via the first side entrance.
As you enter, immediately on your left you should see a sign for e-visa on your right hand side, continue walking straight down the corridor. The 3rd or 4th door on the right hand side is Vanthas office. As you look at his office door, there should be a small alcove with a Buddhist statue to the left of his door, this is how you will know which office is his. Remember that this is a Cambodian Ministry, and they keep strange working hours...I think they take lunch from about 1100 - 1400.
MOI:
Do not go to the Main MoI compound. You need to go to an office called “National Committee to Lead the Suppression of Human Trafficking, Smuggling, Labour Exploitation and Sexual Exploitation in Woman and Children” (S.T.S.L.S), which is at the General dept of Identification building at this location…
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Gen ... ation+(GDI )/@11.5344525,104.9511904,17z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x4d2d71f75dee8eb6!8m2!3d11.5343962!4d104.9550942
Take all of your completed documentation and letter from the MoFAIC with you and try to arrive early (by 0900hrs at the latest). There all of your documentation will be checked, and if anything is not in order they will inform you of what you need to fix.
Once everything is in order, you will pay the official $200 fee, which you will receive a receipt for, and then be interviewed by several people, mostly regarding things like how you met your partner, how long you’ve been together, have you travelled together on holiday, how long have you lived/been travelling to Cambodia, what is your job, family members names and contact details, what are your plans, do you plan to take her overseas and exploit her, etc…Its not as daunting as you may think. Your partner will be near you the entire time, so if there any language barriers, ask her to translate for you.
Once everything is in order, it can take anywhere up to 4 months before you receive the letter of permission to marry from the MoI, which you then take to your partner's Sangkat in order to be issued your official marriage certificate. There is no requirement for a wedding ceremony in order to be issued a marriage certificate.
For foreigners marrying a Cambodian citizen, the only official fees payable are;
- $200 fee paid to the 'National Committe to Lead the Suppression of Human Trafficking, Smuggling, Labour Exploitation and Sexual Exploitation in Woman and Children (S.T.S.L.S)' , which is a department of the MoI. The fee covers admin, interviews and background check costs. An official receipt is issued.
- 20,000 Riel fee paid to the Sangkat which issues the official Marriage Certificate. An official receipt is issued.
(Note: The interviewers at the MoI expect a small "donation" each, about $5 each covers it...probably a good idea to just pay this to ensure your application is approved)
Many people no doubt end up dealing with the wrong people and/or fixers and end up getting fleeced purely because the information on the whole process is not readily available and can be confusing.
I'm not a negative person, I encourage people all the time...it's usually to f**k off! But, whatever.
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Yes here in Cambodia everyone has to know every one else's business. Going to the doctor here, lady friend has to tell everyone what is wrong with me !!! WTF.gavinmac wrote:I agree, it's weird to sit there in the waiting room and listen to "interviews" through the glass about how applicants met their fiancees and what not.DanCooper wrote:Yeah and the US embassy here in Phnom Penh is perfectly set up to conduct interviews of a sensitive and private nature, NOT. The waiting area and service windows are all in the same large room. It reminds me of a bank with little teller windows. Absolutely no privacy.DetroitMuscle wrote: The US officials are very strict in her interview and this alone will probably be as stressful and as costly as us trying to get a Cambodian marriage license. Needless to say, we are not looking forward to trying to make her a permanent resident of the US, and eventually a citizen.
I was there one time to get more pages added into my passport and as I am sitting there waiting for my number to be called, I can hear this poor guy and his lawyer discussing very, very personal child custody issues though bullet proof glass via a microphone to the embassy lady and the whole room could hear it all.
Then the next guy gets called up, but he didn't give a fuck, he seemed like he was high on something anyway. But the lady says over the mic. 'Can I help you sir?' to which he replies 'Yeah, some fucking ladyboy stole my passport and I need a new one!" I shit you not! My number was called soon after and I really didn't care to hear anymore of his story anyway.
“You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough.”
Or go to Singapore.RBD wrote:Unless you have a specific reason to have a Cambodian wedding cert, it is a waste of time and money to marry here. Why make greedy racist corrupt officials rich for no reason? Go to Hong Kong and get married. Quarter the price and 10 times easier.
pew, pew, pew, pew!
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Them Kep crabs be expensive.Biker wrote:Yes here in Cambodia everyone has to know every one else's business. Going to the doctor here, lady friend has to tell everyone what is wrong with me !!! WTF.
ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.
I think if you read what the OP says you will see that local officials are, as usual, doing their best to make sure it does not happen. I hear that many women dream of getting married rather than not getting married at all.gavinmac wrote:I've heard that many women dream of getting married in the presence of a lot of friends and family.RBD wrote:Unless you have a specific reason to have a Cambodian wedding cert, it is a waste of time and money to marry here. Why make greedy racist corrupt officials rich for no reason? Go to Hong Kong and get married. Quarter the price and 10 times easier.
I wouldn't know, it's just what I heard.
Can't be reading all that but it's generally considered bad form to be tupping the help. Marrying them? Fuck's sake.
Very straight-forward. Have a friend doing it soon in HK with a Khmer girl (due to the normal legal problems faced here, him being foreign etc. etc.). No issues at all so far, I believe. Basic documents sent in advance to legal firm in HK (notarized passport copy, proof of prior divorce if relevant etc); fees paid; trip to HK for signature within a set time period; and it's done, with legal marriage certificate passed over. Of course it won't be recognised here, I presume, but, then, nothing normally is without a large payment or some legal issue.Lucky Lucan wrote:How does that work though? From what I've read on here I don't think it's too easy for a Cambodian national to get married abroad.RBD wrote:Unless you have a specific reason to have a Cambodian wedding cert, it is a waste of time and money to marry here. Why make greedy racist corrupt officials rich for no reason? Go to Hong Kong and get married. Quarter the price and 10 times easier.
And she doesn't want a party and he doesn't want to pay for, or worse sit through, one.
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It's trivially easy for a barang guy to marry a Khmer woman in Hong Kong. Unlike Singapore there is no residency requirement. See http://walkjivefly.com/2017/02/getting- ... hong-kong/Lucky Lucan wrote:How does that work though? From what I've read on here I don't think it's too easy for a Cambodian national to get married abroad.RBD wrote:Unless you have a specific reason to have a Cambodian wedding cert, it is a waste of time and money to marry here. Why make greedy racist corrupt officials rich for no reason? Go to Hong Kong and get married. Quarter the price and 10 times easier.
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There's no need for involvement of a legal firm in Hong Kong. They'll just add costs for no benefit whatsoever.RBD wrote:Very straight-forward. Have a friend doing it soon in HK with a Khmer girl (due to the normal legal problems faced here, him being foreign etc. etc.). No issues at all so far, I believe. Basic documents sent in advance to legal firm in HK (notarized passport copy, proof of prior divorce if relevant etc); fees paid; trip to HK for signature within a set time period; and it's done, with legal marriage certificate passed over. Of course it won't be recognised here, I presume, but, then, nothing normally is without a large payment or some legal issue.Lucky Lucan wrote:How does that work though? From what I've read on here I don't think it's too easy for a Cambodian national to get married abroad.RBD wrote:Unless you have a specific reason to have a Cambodian wedding cert, it is a waste of time and money to marry here. Why make greedy racist corrupt officials rich for no reason? Go to Hong Kong and get married. Quarter the price and 10 times easier.
And she doesn't want a party and he doesn't want to pay for, or worse sit through, one.
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