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I thought Black Bambu was owned by Al who owned Fatboy Sub and shares in Sharky's. Did it get sold to Scott?
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Hello ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ »
Yes, CCF and Scott Neeson are/is the elephant in the room. But looking after close to 3,000 kids. mostly females, means just that.
Who comes even close to that?
Personalities sell and raise funds.
Where do you rate in the fund raising and providing for disadvantaged kids?
But is the success of Scott Nesson and the number of children under care any reason to attack this person?
Where do you stand in comparison?
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Yes, CCF and Scott Neeson are/is the elephant in the room. But looking after close to 3,000 kids. mostly females, means just that.
Who comes even close to that?
Personalities sell and raise funds.
Where do you rate in the fund raising and providing for disadvantaged kids?
But is the success of Scott Nesson and the number of children under care any reason to attack this person?
Where do you stand in comparison?
OML
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That isn’t the reason he is being criticised (criticised rather than attacked).Ot Mean Loi wrote:Hello ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ »
But is the success of Scott Nesson and the number of children under care any reason to attack this person?
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I’ve praised the organisation many times, it the apparent self promotion that grates with me.
My organisation compares very well - we measure up. Thanks for asking
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]Facebook post suggests that CCF owns the Black Bambu/House of Scott.
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I too find it strange about all of the self promotion. I get sponsored posts on my FB that aren’t about CCF, but are about Scott Neeson as an individual. I find it very strange that a person (with his own money, or worse, the money of an NGO) is paying to spread propaganda about oneself.ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ wrote:It does irk me that there is such a focus on the celebrity. It does seem narcissistic. The Neeson-Cripps academy, Scott’s Restaurant. Look at their Facebook page, his face is on every other post.Ot Mean Loi wrote:Exactly scoffer.
It's very easy to be a detractor but being a contributor to alleviating the hardship of others takes commitment.
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They are doing good stuff - and some very good stuff, just the self promotion is pretty irritating (to me).
Maybe it’s an American cultural thing. I don’t know, I just find it unnecessary.
It’s no secret here that I am involved in NGO work. I had a media company want to do a promo video about me a couple of years back. I found it cringeworthy and turned them down, I would much rather the focus be on the cause than on the individual. Again, maybe that’s a cultural thing.
Maybe it’s because CCF is a behemoth of an organisation with a massive budget & I’m just jealous. That’s also a possibility.
I’m sure CCF has and does good work. I’ve never met Scott and my comments are simply what they are, that I think all of the self promotion of an individual is abnormal and makes me suspicious on a whole.
I'm guessing some NGOs and other charitable institutions have found that having one person being the official face and therefore focus point of the organization increases donorship, and serves to differentiate their group from other groups who compete for the same funding sources.
For example, if I wanted to donate specifically to the "save the wild chimpanzee" cause, I'd probably give to The Jane Goodall Institute as opposed to one of the dozens of other organizations that have the words "save" and "chimpanzee" in their titles, which could easily be scams for all I know. The Jane Goodall Institute could misuse my donation too, but it's my perception that they won't due to her well-established background in the cause, even if the reality is that Jane Goodall herself has little or no input on how the donated money is spent.
For example, if I wanted to donate specifically to the "save the wild chimpanzee" cause, I'd probably give to The Jane Goodall Institute as opposed to one of the dozens of other organizations that have the words "save" and "chimpanzee" in their titles, which could easily be scams for all I know. The Jane Goodall Institute could misuse my donation too, but it's my perception that they won't due to her well-established background in the cause, even if the reality is that Jane Goodall herself has little or no input on how the donated money is spent.
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Gavin. You’ve changed. Cracking jokes and all. Nice one!gavinmac wrote:Hey, speaking of Scott Neeson, has anyone been to the restaurant Black Bambu? I guess it's a CCF training restaurant, I actually didn't know that when I went there.0zirC wrote:
Try saying that to Scott Neeson and Matt Dillon.
I walked in and saw a photo on one wall of Scott Neeson with some CCF kids. Then on another wall, another bigger photo of Scott Nesson with some kids.
Then another really huge photo on one wall of just Scott Neeson, or maybe there were some kids in the background in the photo, but I'm not sure there were.
Then I saw and heard Scott Neeson himself holding court at one of the tables behind me.
Maybe they should have just named the place "Scott Neeson's Scott Neeson Restaurant," it has a nice ring to it.
Speaking on big pictures.
My new landlord has a temporary room on site and occasionally stays - we actually rented his original place which is much bigger - anyway I looked inside (it’s 4 x 10) and he’s got this huge framed picture of him and a guy both in military uniform. I asked if it was his dad “No, my boss, that’s my dad” and pointed to a tiny photo of him and dad also in uniform!
I laughed.
pew, pew, pew, pew!
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But we live in an age of personalities.
Personalities promote in every sense of the term, especially - Issues - Causes - Organizations etc
Personalities attract - Interest - Donors and Sponsors - Multi Media Interest.
And the bigger the personality the better. It's a fact of life in this day and age.
I spent years working in a large international organization that uses personalities to very good effect as "Goodwill Ambassadors". Some are from cultures well known to me others far less so. But their standing and value as "attention magnets" within their own cultures and language streams is beyond question. So don't knock personalities if trying to build and sustain an organization. CCF is small fry by global standards but an Elephant in the Room in Cambodia.
I was fortunate to spend time with some of these Goodwill Ambassadors and each and every one of them was a very impressive advocate for the organization. Some of whom included: The late Audrey HEPBURN, the late Peter USTINOV, Harry BELAFONTE, Richard ATTENBOROUGH, Roger MOORE, Judy COLLINS, Mia FARROW, Jacki CHAN, Nana MOUSCOURI, etc. etc.
Never underestimate Personality and Personalities. Organizations need them. It matters not if they are the Pope or the Dalai Lama or Fred Hollows etc.
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Personalities promote in every sense of the term, especially - Issues - Causes - Organizations etc
Personalities attract - Interest - Donors and Sponsors - Multi Media Interest.
And the bigger the personality the better. It's a fact of life in this day and age.
I spent years working in a large international organization that uses personalities to very good effect as "Goodwill Ambassadors". Some are from cultures well known to me others far less so. But their standing and value as "attention magnets" within their own cultures and language streams is beyond question. So don't knock personalities if trying to build and sustain an organization. CCF is small fry by global standards but an Elephant in the Room in Cambodia.
I was fortunate to spend time with some of these Goodwill Ambassadors and each and every one of them was a very impressive advocate for the organization. Some of whom included: The late Audrey HEPBURN, the late Peter USTINOV, Harry BELAFONTE, Richard ATTENBOROUGH, Roger MOORE, Judy COLLINS, Mia FARROW, Jacki CHAN, Nana MOUSCOURI, etc. etc.
Never underestimate Personality and Personalities. Organizations need them. It matters not if they are the Pope or the Dalai Lama or Fred Hollows etc.
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Not trying to detract from the great work CCF does, but PSE ( Pour un Sourire d'Enfant) has 7000 students and supports 3000 of the student's families too.Ot Mean Loi wrote:Hello ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ »
Yes, CCF and Scott Neeson are/is the elephant in the room. But looking after close to 3,000 kids. mostly females, means just that.
Who comes even close to that?
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
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I am very ready to stand corrected on this but PSE does not have those 7K in residential care. Or does it? I think not.
But regardless, the CCFs 3K + in care is a very substantial number.
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But regardless, the CCFs 3K + in care is a very substantial number.
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CCF has 3000 kids in residential care? As in an orphanage care?Ot Mean Loi wrote:I am very ready to stand corrected on this but PSE does not have those 7K in residential care. Or does it? I think not.
But regardless, the CCFs 3K + in care is a very substantial number.
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That can’t be right...
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This is from CCFs last published annual report.
Not sure what OML is talking about with regards to ‘3k+ in care.’
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PSE generally try to support the kid's families so their home-life is better and then transport them to and from school. They do have about 250 kids who board there as they are from remote areas, and a smaller number of orphans/ vulnerable children live there. They also run a program for disabled children. Anyway their main focus is on training and support rather than housing.
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That is exactly as I understood matters at PSE.
Both CCF and PSE owe their origins to the same former central Phnom Penh Garbage Tip.
CCF has build quite a few shelters/homes in that area too.
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Both CCF and PSE owe their origins to the same former central Phnom Penh Garbage Tip.
CCF has build quite a few shelters/homes in that area too.
OML