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Porky,
I would like to see your floorplan(s) prior to commencement.
For me, there should be no traffic through the kitchen and the living area. One thing that pisses me off in many houses is when you are watching TV and everybody else in the house needs to walk between you and the TV constantly.
With some careful thought this can be avoided, also making the living area more 'private'.
I would like to see your floorplan(s) prior to commencement.
For me, there should be no traffic through the kitchen and the living area. One thing that pisses me off in many houses is when you are watching TV and everybody else in the house needs to walk between you and the TV constantly.
With some careful thought this can be avoided, also making the living area more 'private'.
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Curious why you don't see the benefit if an insulated building for air con. The brick is a thermal mass, it draws in heat energy and dispels it for hours after. Using a double brick system is better, because it provides a thermal break, which does help for sure, but that heat transfer and air pocket would be still heating the inner wall. If there is venting between, drawing the cooler air from the bottom through that airspace it would be best.Jacked Camry wrote:I personally believe that there would be limited benefit in insulation with respect to maintaining the cool, and would focus more on eliminating the leakages that are a bigger problem around doors and windows. Of course, if it's not that expensive, why not?
I am not as concerned about heat loss and air leakage as many people. If the house is too airtight, then you need an air exchanger unit, which, while a nice thing, is still a thing that costs money and needs maintenance.
I like the idea of Zoned cooling. The rest of the house can be open and taking a breeze for most of the day, while the Bedroom can assist in getting a good nights sleep. Too much reliance on Air-con is generally not so healthy anyhow. Even since I have been here, when I go home now, I use it a lot less and have added a fan for moving the air instead.
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The problem with the world is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
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Essential information ... if I was helping you design and build your own home. As for traffic flow and usability of a home, everyone is different and has different needs. Its true what you say though, and I've mentioned it before. You need to design spaces that work and function well. That includes where you place windows and doors too. Some rooms are designed as ... nice rooms, but you cannot place furniture properly because of where the windows and doors or traffic patterns are.Don-Pierre de Plume wrote:Porky, I would like to see your floorplan(s) prior to commencement. For me, there should be no traffic through the kitchen and the living area. One thing that pisses me off in many houses is when you are watching TV and everybody else in the house needs to walk between you and the TV constantly. With some careful thought this can be avoided, also making the living area more 'private'.
There are several different kitchen styles. If you have a nice working space in a kitchen, but also a rear door just off to the side, that is often nice, at least to me. It is not a main traffic area, but could be a walk through.
The best designed kitchens have an entry from the garage that allows you to take the groceries straight in without lugging them through the whole house.
I have been pleased to learn that Princess is not all on about a huge big house. I have been showing her small cottage designs and she says it melts her eyes. One of these is a lovely little one bedroom (main floor) cottage with a loft 2nd bedroom area. Just have a look at the floor plan, don't worry about the outside design, I would change that up a bit.
http://ijustlovetinyhouses.blogspot.com ... print.html
As far as television goes, I also quit it completely since coming to Cambodia. I will not have one in the bedroom either. I will have one however, because princess likes the voice Cambodia and all the other nonsense they are all up about. As long as she spends equal time reading and the television is not on all day, I don't mind. (yes, I got her to read in bed at night) Really great point though about placement, I can think of many situations like you suggested, as far as having an entry and traffic point between the television and seating area. In the design above, the television would be mounted on the outside wall in the living room where the Gas fireplace is shown to be, and between the two windows which may not make the cut.
If I built something like this, I think I would like another separate garage building, for projects and for locking up the tools and motor. But am not against attaching one either, if the property doesn't allow for it.
While I am on about design, I found a nice conceptualization I like, although it has no floor plan, and one can clearly see that in reality its not right proportionately for inside living space. However, I like the overall appearance and style of this building.
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PorkPiePorn wrote:
I have been pleased to learn that Princess is not all on about a huge big house. I have been showing her small cottage designs and she says it melts her eyes.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
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Well, now I see how one gets 14 thousand useless posts.Lucky Lucan wrote:PorkPiePorn wrote:I have been pleased to learn that Princess is not all on about a huge big house. I have been showing her small cottage designs and she says it melts her eyes.
The problem with the world is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
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lol, in her mind.Khmerhamster wrote:Is your partner a real princess?
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Here is my kitchen design for the house soon to be commenced (subject to final drawings). You can see, no thru-traffic in the kitchen.There are several different kitchen styles. If you have a nice working space in a kitchen, but also a rear door just off to the side, that is often nice, at least to me. It is not a main traffic area, but could be a walk through.
Car can pull up on the side loaded with groceries and shit, open back door and quickly unload straight unto the bench, from where it will be allocated into the various pigeon holes (pantry).
No walking through the house with heavy loads.
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Thank-you for sharing.Don-Pierre de Plume wrote:Here is my kitchen design for the house soon to be commenced (subject to final drawings). You can see, no thru-traffic in the kitchen.There are several different kitchen styles. If you have a nice working space in a kitchen, but also a rear door just off to the side, that is often nice, at least to me. It is not a main traffic area, but could be a walk through.
Car can pull up on the side loaded with groceries and shit, open back door and quickly unload straight unto the bench, from where it will be allocated into the various pigeon holes (pantry).
No walking through the house with heavy loads.
I would feel a bit trapped in that kitchen tbh... there is only one access point, and its narrow. you might consider slicing off the peninsula and making it an island with a breakfast bar, so you can still have that function, but move around it. Also, the small cabinet/counter beside the pantry/freezer should be eliminated. This will allow for a widened access point to the kitchen working space. Perhaps you have a dining room or kitchen table elsewhere, but I wouldn't be satisfied with just some bar stools. A pantry is a superb idea, but yours is too long and narrow to get much benefit from it. The way it is, you can only put shelves on the end, because if you had shelving along one side, you could barely walk along it. (minimum 3 ft wide if shelves are 12 inches along the side and 2 ft deep on the end, you still have 2 ft wide to walk along and to bend down to access the lower shelves) Putting the freezer in there, out of the way is good, but it will make that space really hot, and a cooler pantry is more desirable.
Now, I see you have 1000 pantry width (not so good with metric) so that is adequate, but then your drawing is definitely not to scale, as your counters (stove and peninsula) are wider than that. Why the heck would you want a 3 ft deep counter? Thats table width, standard is 24 inches.
I might understand this better if there were dimensional lines indicating where these numbers refer to, and if it were to scale.
Anyhow, design considerations are personal and can be argued ad infinitum. I think some of it is also influenced by where we lived before and how we functioned in other spaces. Even something weird can become preferred and 'normal' to some after a while.
Whats more cool and more important is that you are commencing building soon. thats exciting Instead of us debating design (not that I mind giving my input), please tell us more about how you are facilitating the project?
Thanks for sharing.
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It does seem a bit spread out, the work triangle, but I dont know the exact dimensions to gauge that properly. Ideally, only two steps between any one point.Playboy wrote:The sink looks a long way away from the cooker
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Just my personal preference, but I like the sink to be no more than a step away from me dumping a red-hot pan into it, ideally just a slight swivel and in it goes. As I say, just a personal preference of mine.PorkPiePorn wrote:It does seem a bit spread out, the work triangle, but I dont know the exact dimensions to gauge that properly. Ideally, only two steps between any one point.Playboy wrote:The sink looks a long way away from the cooker
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There are well documented design rules for these functionalities in Kitchen design. You are right, and this is definitely something that is often done poorly and well worth some careful thinking. Especially if you like to play in the kitchen. Also depends if you like to work alone or with more people.Playboy wrote:Just my personal preference, but I like the sink to be no more than a step away from me dumping a red-hot pan into it, ideally just a slight swivel and in it goes. As I say, just a personal preference of mine.PorkPiePorn wrote:It does seem a bit spread out, the work triangle, but I don't know the exact dimensions to gauge that properly. Ideally, only two steps between any one point.Playboy wrote:The sink looks a long way away from the cooker
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Thanks for the feedback. The whole house is a scribble on my part, albeit in detail but not properly to scale.
It joins the dining area (north just outside the image) and is open plan with plenty of light. The dotted lines are not walls.
One thing that MUST be avoided is having to cross the floor with a pan filled with boiling water/oil etc. That's how serious accidents can occur, especially if your cat sneaks up behind you. The sink can be moved a bit of course, also I have seen a new house where the wife has an extra set of taps above the cooking top. Might do that too.
I fiddled around with an island but that really wasn't improving things and need to walk around it all the time.
Agree that the openings into the kitchen area can be a bit larger, but my previous house had a similar size opening and it was no issue.
I have physically checked/tested the pantry dimensions, 1m space is more then 3 feet and sufficient to bend down. The emphasis is on functional shelve space. If the shelves are deep, they are awkward to use. Hard to get stuff from the back. On the other side the shelves will be narrower, you would put different stuff there.
Total shelve space is about 7m long, a lot more than the average pantry. In addition there are the usual kitchen cabinets.
Pantry is not entirely closed, although it may appear to be on my scribble. Might put a window at the end, might also widen it a bit. It's important to be able to store plenty as it's on a semi-rural property with plenty of space. Like to stock up in bulk.
The bench near the door can be brought back, need to talk with an 'expert' on that. The width is nothing special, and when using it as breakfast bar it should have the space.
For me, kitchen should be functional for 2 persons. I always like to help wifey. I hate cooking in a shitty kitchen.
The living area has an adjacent 'away' area for Audio/Video and other entertainment stuff.
I don't have a large family, it's just that I like space.
I prepared the site years ago (cut & fill), it overlooks a large pond to the north (no walls here) and on the south there will be undercover parking space for cars with solar panels on there (not on the house roof).
It joins the dining area (north just outside the image) and is open plan with plenty of light. The dotted lines are not walls.
One thing that MUST be avoided is having to cross the floor with a pan filled with boiling water/oil etc. That's how serious accidents can occur, especially if your cat sneaks up behind you. The sink can be moved a bit of course, also I have seen a new house where the wife has an extra set of taps above the cooking top. Might do that too.
I fiddled around with an island but that really wasn't improving things and need to walk around it all the time.
Agree that the openings into the kitchen area can be a bit larger, but my previous house had a similar size opening and it was no issue.
I have physically checked/tested the pantry dimensions, 1m space is more then 3 feet and sufficient to bend down. The emphasis is on functional shelve space. If the shelves are deep, they are awkward to use. Hard to get stuff from the back. On the other side the shelves will be narrower, you would put different stuff there.
Total shelve space is about 7m long, a lot more than the average pantry. In addition there are the usual kitchen cabinets.
Pantry is not entirely closed, although it may appear to be on my scribble. Might put a window at the end, might also widen it a bit. It's important to be able to store plenty as it's on a semi-rural property with plenty of space. Like to stock up in bulk.
The bench near the door can be brought back, need to talk with an 'expert' on that. The width is nothing special, and when using it as breakfast bar it should have the space.
For me, kitchen should be functional for 2 persons. I always like to help wifey. I hate cooking in a shitty kitchen.
The living area has an adjacent 'away' area for Audio/Video and other entertainment stuff.
I don't have a large family, it's just that I like space.
I prepared the site years ago (cut & fill), it overlooks a large pond to the north (no walls here) and on the south there will be undercover parking space for cars with solar panels on there (not on the house roof).
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